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The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style
    #719588 - 07/03/02 05:34 AM (22 years, 23 days ago)



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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: mjshroomer]
    #719593 - 07/03/02 05:45 AM (22 years, 23 days ago)

Where the fuck did you get that?

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: mjshroomer]
    #719628 - 07/03/02 06:16 AM (22 years, 23 days ago)

And still people say that most towel heads aren't scumbags.

Where is a sniper when ypou need one most?


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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #719673 - 07/03/02 06:47 AM (22 years, 23 days ago)

There are three, maybe four people wearing turbans, and twenty who aren't. Watch out for people who don't wear turbans.

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: hongomon]
    #719694 - 07/03/02 06:59 AM (22 years, 23 days ago)

They appear to be Pakistanis (sp?) but I'm not sure that the picture is real, none of the people appear to have been playing in the sand. I'd like to know the source.

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: ]
    #719741 - 07/03/02 07:33 AM (22 years, 23 days ago)

They probably used their turbans to wipe their hands.


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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: mjshroomer]
    #719808 - 07/03/02 08:14 AM (22 years, 23 days ago)

Get out of the loop, sheeple.

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: mjshroomer]
    #719897 - 07/03/02 08:59 AM (22 years, 23 days ago)

We should wipe those people off of the face of the Earth. The world would clearly be a better place if we cleaned out the Middle East entirely.

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: hongomon]
    #719902 - 07/03/02 09:02 AM (22 years, 23 days ago)

What exactly do you mean by, "Get out of the loop, sheeple"?

Edited by Evolving (07/03/02 09:03 AM)

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: mjshroomer]
    #719903 - 07/03/02 09:02 AM (22 years, 23 days ago)

LOL those people are sooooooo stoooooopid!!
don't they know there were TWO towers?? stupid sand niggers can't even do their sand right.


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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: Eightball]
    #720080 - 07/03/02 10:20 AM (22 years, 23 days ago)

despite how disguisting that is

i must say the guy who built did a good job

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: foghorn]
    #720119 - 07/03/02 10:36 AM (22 years, 23 days ago)

foghorn wrote:
i must say the guy who built did a good job
Yeah, and the Nazis made beautiful lampshades and wonderful soap...

As far as I'm concerned, anybody who revels in the destruction of innocent lives by the 9/11 terrorists should tagged and let go at 'ground zero' with a public announcement that New Yorkers should be allowed free reign to do what they want with the assholes.

Edited by Evolving (07/03/02 10:37 AM)

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: ]
    #720120 - 07/03/02 10:37 AM (22 years, 23 days ago)

and their descendents and famly abroad!

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: ]
    #720171 - 07/03/02 10:58 AM (22 years, 23 days ago)

Maybe it was a memorial to the lives
lost in the attack. Like, a touching
tribute.

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: ]
    #720644 - 07/03/02 03:05 PM (22 years, 23 days ago)

Hey, Evolving, how about a friendly wager. I bet that there are MAYBE, three, at most four, people that would know, off hand, the nature of the german artifacts that you mentioned. BTW, I am counting you and I.

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: mrfreedom]
    #720660 - 07/03/02 03:17 PM (22 years, 23 days ago)

I hope there are more than three or four, but sadly, I suspect you're right.


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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: ]
    #720675 - 07/03/02 03:26 PM (22 years, 23 days ago)

As well as starting damn fine car companies.. pharmaceuticals... our space program.. and now a book was published tying Herman Hollerith who started IBM to German fascism

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: mrfreedom]
    #720727 - 07/03/02 03:53 PM (22 years, 23 days ago)

Do you think I like loosing money?

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: Doublethink]
    #720735 - 07/03/02 04:04 PM (22 years, 23 days ago)

By German fascism, you must be referring to those associated with the National Socialist German Workers Party. I can't believe that a group that embraced the wonderful philosophy of socialism would have been associated with IBM.

Edited by Evolving (07/03/02 04:06 PM)

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: ]
    #720751 - 07/03/02 04:11 PM (22 years, 23 days ago)

christ u call them towel heads? and sand niggers? all of america claims they are barbarians when were sitting over here saying ethnic slurs. your no better than them if u can utter such racial hatred.

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: ]
    #720754 - 07/03/02 04:13 PM (22 years, 23 days ago)

i know bout the soaps

but that has nothing to do with my comment about well crafted SAND CASTLES

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: ]
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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: mellojello]
    #720794 - 07/03/02 04:30 PM (22 years, 23 days ago)

I didn't call them towel heads and sand niggers.

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: Doublethink]
    #720823 - 07/03/02 04:42 PM (22 years, 23 days ago)

Yeah, Doublethink I'm aware of the allegations and the book. I was being sarcastic when I referrred to "wonderful philosophy of socialism" because Nazis were/are in fact Socialists (National Socialist German Workers Party). It's my understanding that old man Kennedy (Teddy & JFK's dad) was a Hitler sympathizer as well. Yep, socialism, the saviour of mankind.

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: ]
    #720839 - 07/03/02 04:48 PM (22 years, 23 days ago)

I'm quite fond of socialism also.. and the things that seem to go along with true socialism (not a dictatorship).. Sweden has something like 98% literacy, I think ours is something like 70% or same depressingly low number.. I'm no fan of neo-Nazi anti-Semitism though... although sadly this part of the country (Idaho/Montana) seems to be quite a haven for such thought

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: ]
    #721347 - 07/03/02 08:22 PM (22 years, 23 days ago)

"What exactly do you mean by, 'Get out of the loop, sheeple'? "

It's a cycle of hate. A picture like that is posted, and the hate comes out. Read some of the comments. Over there, the same thing is going on. We're reacting to their hatred of us, they're reacting to our hatred of them. It's a loop. Get out of it.

Drop the hate. It pushes love out.

I apologize for saying "sheeple." I'm as much a sheeple as anyone, in my way.

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: ]
    #721371 - 07/03/02 08:30 PM (22 years, 23 days ago)

I don't think mellojello was addressing you. He or she is a newbie, and probably pushed the reply on the latest post, which was yours.

But you did write,

"As far as I'm concerned, anybody who revels in the destruction of innocent lives by
the 9/11 terrorists should tagged and let go at 'ground zero' with a public
announcement that New Yorkers should be allowed free reign to do what they want
with the assholes."

Which shows a willingness to contribute to the cycle of hate. You can't understand what you hate. And you can't change what you can't understand.

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: hongomon]
    #721856 - 07/04/02 04:01 AM (22 years, 23 days ago)

You can't understand what you hate.
Why not?

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: hongomon]
    #721906 - 07/04/02 05:02 AM (22 years, 22 days ago)

In reply to:

Which shows a willingness to contribute to the cycle of hate. You can't understand what you hate. And you can't change what you can't understand.




What a load of crap. I know very well what I hate and I have a full understanding of why.

And one thing that won't change is history. No matter how it is rewritten to suit those who feel guilty, or who are jealous, because we are the single greatest country in the world. No other can do what we can do, have done, and will continue to do.

So, continue to keep your head buried in the sand. Be glad to live in a country or world, where thanks in no small part to the US, you can hold such high and mighty ideas of what I, and others who think the same, should think, do, and say.

We'll keep laughing at your foolishness.


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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #721984 - 07/04/02 06:06 AM (22 years, 22 days ago)

Wow!

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: ]
    #722111 - 07/04/02 07:30 AM (22 years, 22 days ago)

Why can't you understand what you hate? Probably because you don't want to. Your mind closes to it, and you want to destroy it. You can understand THAT you hate it, you can understand what is terrible about it, but you can't be objective about it. Consider some of the hateful remarks on this forum. How does a person get to the point where he or she has no problem promoting genocide?

Let me use a half-serious example, you can take it or leave it: When Luke was on the planet with Yoda and he went off and had that dream, or vision where he fought Darth Vader, why did he see his face in the mask after he cut it off? When I first saw it I thought it was revealing that he was Vader's son. Now I think it was saying that if he can't let go of his hate, he would become like Vader.

Obviously you're free to think and feel how you wish. But I just want to say to everyone reading this, don't let your anger grow into hatred. It puts you into a vicious cycle, and it compromises your judgement.

I think Swami's post on boundary lines in the spirituality forum is well put, and I want to suggest a correlation between that idea and what I'm trying to say.

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: hongomon]
    #722172 - 07/04/02 08:07 AM (22 years, 22 days ago)

Why can't you understand what you hate? Probably because you don't want to. Your mind closes to it...
This is a broad generalization, it may be the way your mind works, but it is not the way everyone's mind works. Some people may hate something precisely because they understand it.

You can understand THAT you hate it, you can understand what is terrible about it, but you can't be objective about it.
Passion and reason are not diametrically opposed and can be fully developed within the same individual. One can objectively analyze and fully understand something and subjectively feel disdain, contempt and hate for it as well. Perhaps you might research the history of warfare, the tactics and knowledge of commanders of opposing sides and you might understand more fully how this can be. The most successful Generals understand their enemies.

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: ]
    #722559 - 07/04/02 12:14 PM (22 years, 22 days ago)

The sand castle is a tribute done in sand by the Indian folks... a bit morbid, but was NOT done in celebration.

We're seeing a mixed bag of non-Muslim Indians, Hindu and probably Sikhs (3 guys with turbans at least). The rest of the guys aren't what you'd expect of either Sikhs We know from the woman there's Hindus around. Look again at the women: no head coverings.

The history of the photo is:

Puri Beach, Bay of Bengal, India during the annual Beach Festival.

September 26, 2001.

Artist is Sudarshan Patnaik, the people shown in the photo are simply passers-by and spectators.


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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #723008 - 07/04/02 05:41 PM (22 years, 22 days ago)

So, I was right. Everyone else was wrong. I
was right.

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: bivalve]
    #723076 - 07/04/02 06:06 PM (22 years, 22 days ago)

Yes, you were right. Congrats on being the only other person in this thread with good observational skills.


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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: bivalve]
    #724020 - 07/05/02 12:40 AM (22 years, 22 days ago)

I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day.


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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: mellojello]
    #724168 - 07/05/02 05:12 AM (22 years, 21 days ago)

That photo is sooo fake it isn't even funny...
A few people in here have such a simplistic view of the middle east it makes me want to puke... Dumbasses
The kind of hatred I see in some of these posts is the same type that fostered the events of 9/11
Mellojello, you got it right brother!!!


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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: politikill]
    #725093 - 07/05/02 03:29 PM (22 years, 21 days ago)

Sorry Politikil,

Ther eis nothing fake about that photo.
It iss real.

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: politikill]
    #725208 - 07/05/02 04:49 PM (22 years, 21 days ago)

The photo is real. The sand sculpture was done as a memorial to the victims of the 9-11 attacks by an indian artist. Please refer to my earlier post for details.


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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #725882 - 07/06/02 04:14 AM (22 years, 21 days ago)

Even if it is real which I still doubt, the fact that this was done as a memorial only sheds more light on the fact that many of the people in this thread have no historical or cultural understanding of the Middle East.
A goodwill gesture that was met was racial slurs, what else can be said...


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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: politikill]
    #725888 - 07/06/02 04:18 AM (22 years, 21 days ago)

DoubleThink:
Here is a good link to a site that goes over IBM's link to the Nazi's:
http://www.guerrillanews.com/ibm/
Not a bad read either, they have IBM's response to the book posted there as well, check it out...


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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: politikill]
    #725922 - 07/06/02 04:38 AM (22 years, 21 days ago)

Evolving:
You calling the Nazi "Socialist" was perhaps one of the funniest things I have ever heard. Yes they used the name Socialist but they were so far from Socialist it isn't even funny.
If you take a look at the historical record the first people that Hitler went after were the Socialists and Communists (and of course the Jews), which he wiped out at a record pace. The Nazi's were perhaps the best example of Fascism the world has ever seen. I could call myself a Zebra but that in itself does not make me a Zebra!!
Furthermore, look into other countries and you will find that "National Socalist" is really another word for "Fascism"!!!!
Evolving we usually agree on political discussions but I have to disagree with anyone who calls the Nazi's Socialist...


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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: politikill]
    #726183 - 07/06/02 08:42 AM (22 years, 20 days ago)

Here are some quotes from the National Socialist German Workers Party platform. A lot of it expresses ideas which are very similar to what the Democrats, Greens, Socialists and other variety of statist in this country espouse....


"We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood."

"we demand:..."

"That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished."

"...all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits."

"We demand the nationalization of all trusts."

"We demand profit-sharing in large industries."

"We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions."

"We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalisation of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small trades people, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities."

"We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land."

"We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished ... regardless of creed or race."

"We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law."

"In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State."
(Evolving's note: it takes a village)

"The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centres, by prohibiting juvenile labour, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young."

"We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press."

"Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved."

"We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the Germanic race."

"The party as such represents the point of view of a positive Christianity without binding itself to any one particular confession. It fights against... materialist spirit within and without, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our folk can only come about from within on the principle:
COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD"

"In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.

The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states."

Reads very Socialistic to me.

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    #726190 - 07/06/02 08:45 AM (22 years, 20 days ago)

fucking socialists,, me sends out assasins............

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: nugsarenice]
    #726487 - 07/06/02 12:27 PM (22 years, 20 days ago)

Yes Nugs I agree, they were fucking socialists. The National Socialist German Workers Party was more commonly known as The NAZI Party.

Edited by Evolving (07/06/02 12:49 PM)

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    #726488 - 07/06/02 12:30 PM (22 years, 20 days ago)

Fucking we should seriously send a u.n. peacekeeping team there immediatley, to avoid another WW2

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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: nugsarenice]
    #726504 - 07/06/02 12:42 PM (22 years, 20 days ago)

Germany does participate in war again. Just a couple years ago was the first time since WW2. In the invasion of Serbia German troops and air men fought with NATO allies.


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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: nugsarenice]
    #726705 - 07/06/02 02:50 PM (22 years, 20 days ago)

I found it interesting that Jack London (Call of the Wild, and other famous stories) was a socialist.

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    #726706 - 07/06/02 02:51 PM (22 years, 20 days ago)

maybe a true socialist, ,but you got to understand that the majority of socialists are evil.

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    #726712 - 07/06/02 02:55 PM (22 years, 20 days ago)

Evolving, thank you for explaining that NAZIism s a sort of socialism. That had always puzzled me an I'de never bothered to look in to it. Thank you.


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    #726740 - 07/06/02 03:10 PM (22 years, 20 days ago)

Look at what the socialists did to Czhecklosavakia, fucking socialists.

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    #728590 - 07/07/02 07:23 AM (22 years, 19 days ago)

You guys can hate Socialist, that is fine but the Nazi's were NOT socialist sorry evolving you can quote as much Nazi propaganda as you want. Here is a political scientist explaining the orgins of National Socialism:

"National Socialism was similar in many respects to Italian fascism.
The roots of National Socialism, however, were peculiarly German, grounded, for example, in the Prussian tradition of military authoritarianism and expansion; in the German romantic tradition of hostility to rationalism, liberalism, and democracy."


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    #728608 - 07/07/02 07:34 AM (22 years, 19 days ago)

"The Nazis blamed the Communists and made the incident a pretext to suppress the Communist Party with brutal violence; later, the Social Democratic Party (Socialists) was also violently suppressed. Neither party offered organized resistance. All other parties were subsequently outlawed, the attempt to create a new party was made a crime, and the National Socialist Party became the only legal party. In the Enabling Act of March 23, 1933, the legislative powers of the Reichstag were passed to the cabinet. The act granted Hitler dictatorial powers and signified the end of the Weimar Republic."
"Thereafter the party was the principal instrument of the totalitarian control of the state and of German society"


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    #728698 - 07/07/02 08:19 AM (22 years, 19 days ago)

politikill wrote:
...sorry evolving you can quote as much Nazi propaganda as you want
Sorry politikill but the quotes are taken directly from the points of the NSDAP (Nazi) Program. They were composed by Adolf Hitler and Anton Drexler. They were publically presented on 24 February 1920. All these points were part of Hitler's agenda. Please feel free to eliminate the parts (if any) for which there was no planning, goal of implementation, or were not in force during the era of Hitler, what remains is socialist. Facism is indeed a form of socialism.

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    #728737 - 07/07/02 08:38 AM (22 years, 19 days ago)

politikill quoted:
"The Nazis blamed the Communists and made the incident a pretext to suppress the Communist Party with brutal violence; later, the Social Democratic Party (Socialists) was also violently suppressed. Neither party offered organized resistance. All other parties were subsequently outlawed, the attempt to create a new party was made a crime, and the National Socialist Party became the only legal party. In the Enabling Act of March 23, 1933, the legislative powers of the Reichstag were passed to the cabinet. The act granted Hitler dictatorial powers and signified the end of the Weimar Republic."
"Thereafter the party was the principal instrument of the totalitarian control of the state and of German society"


And this proves what?

So the Nazis suppressed other factions of socialism. How is this different of various religions being eliminated or driven underground by the dominant church? It was a power struggle of various factions, the Nazis won that round.

Anyone who believes in the implementation of socialism via the state is advocating the use of the coercive power of the state to implement his particular agenda. He is advocating the intiation of force against his fellow human being, whether he wants to admit it or not. Taken to it's logical conclusion this will entail the killing of those who resist and refuse to give up their resistence.

"Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun."
-- Mao Tse-tung, 1938,

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    #728892 - 07/07/02 09:42 AM (22 years, 19 days ago)

Fucking Hungary too, what are you some kind of Marxist!

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