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#720754 - 07/03/02 04:13 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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i know bout the soaps
but that has nothing to do with my comment about well crafted SAND CASTLES
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 Doublethink
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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: ]
#720755 - 07/03/02 04:13 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: mellojello]
#720794 - 07/03/02 04:30 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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I didn't call them towel heads and sand niggers.
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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: Doublethink]
#720823 - 07/03/02 04:42 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, Doublethink I'm aware of the allegations and the book. I was being sarcastic when I referrred to "wonderful philosophy of socialism" because Nazis were/are in fact Socialists (National Socialist German Workers Party). It's my understanding that old man Kennedy (Teddy & JFK's dad) was a Hitler sympathizer as well. Yep, socialism, the saviour of mankind.
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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: ]
#720839 - 07/03/02 04:48 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm quite fond of socialism also.. and the things that seem to go along with true socialism (not a dictatorship).. Sweden has something like 98% literacy, I think ours is something like 70% or same depressingly low number.. I'm no fan of neo-Nazi anti-Semitism though... although sadly this part of the country (Idaho/Montana) seems to be quite a haven for such thought
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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: ]
#721347 - 07/03/02 08:22 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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"What exactly do you mean by, 'Get out of the loop, sheeple'? "
It's a cycle of hate. A picture like that is posted, and the hate comes out. Read some of the comments. Over there, the same thing is going on. We're reacting to their hatred of us, they're reacting to our hatred of them. It's a loop. Get out of it.
Drop the hate. It pushes love out.
I apologize for saying "sheeple." I'm as much a sheeple as anyone, in my way.
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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: ]
#721371 - 07/03/02 08:30 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't think mellojello was addressing you. He or she is a newbie, and probably pushed the reply on the latest post, which was yours.
But you did write,
"As far as I'm concerned, anybody who revels in the destruction of innocent lives by
the 9/11 terrorists should tagged and let go at 'ground zero' with a public
announcement that New Yorkers should be allowed free reign to do what they want
with the assholes."
Which shows a willingness to contribute to the cycle of hate. You can't understand what you hate. And you can't change what you can't understand.
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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: hongomon]
#721856 - 07/04/02 04:01 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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You can't understand what you hate.
Why not?
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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: hongomon]
#721906 - 07/04/02 05:02 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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In reply to:
Which shows a willingness to contribute to the cycle of hate. You can't understand what you hate. And you can't change what you can't understand.
What a load of crap. I know very well what I hate and I have a full understanding of why.
And one thing that won't change is history. No matter how it is rewritten to suit those who feel guilty, or who are jealous, because we are the single greatest country in the world. No other can do what we can do, have done, and will continue to do.
So, continue to keep your head buried in the sand. Be glad to live in a country or world, where thanks in no small part to the US, you can hold such high and mighty ideas of what I, and others who think the same, should think, do, and say.
We'll keep laughing at your foolishness.
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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#721984 - 07/04/02 06:06 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wow!
mj
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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: ]
#722111 - 07/04/02 07:30 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why can't you understand what you hate? Probably because you don't want to. Your mind closes to it, and you want to destroy it. You can understand THAT you hate it, you can understand what is terrible about it, but you can't be objective about it. Consider some of the hateful remarks on this forum. How does a person get to the point where he or she has no problem promoting genocide?
Let me use a half-serious example, you can take it or leave it: When Luke was on the planet with Yoda and he went off and had that dream, or vision where he fought Darth Vader, why did he see his face in the mask after he cut it off? When I first saw it I thought it was revealing that he was Vader's son. Now I think it was saying that if he can't let go of his hate, he would become like Vader.
Obviously you're free to think and feel how you wish. But I just want to say to everyone reading this, don't let your anger grow into hatred. It puts you into a vicious cycle, and it compromises your judgement.
I think Swami's post on boundary lines in the spirituality forum is well put, and I want to suggest a correlation between that idea and what I'm trying to say.
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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: hongomon]
#722172 - 07/04/02 08:07 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why can't you understand what you hate? Probably because you don't want to. Your mind closes to it...
This is a broad generalization, it may be the way your mind works, but it is not the way everyone's mind works. Some people may hate something precisely because they understand it.
You can understand THAT you hate it, you can understand what is terrible about it, but you can't be objective about it.
Passion and reason are not diametrically opposed and can be fully developed within the same individual. One can objectively analyze and fully understand something and subjectively feel disdain, contempt and hate for it as well. Perhaps you might research the history of warfare, the tactics and knowledge of commanders of opposing sides and you might understand more fully how this can be. The most successful Generals understand their enemies.
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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: ]
#722559 - 07/04/02 12:14 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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The sand castle is a tribute done in sand by the Indian folks... a bit morbid, but was NOT done in celebration.
We're seeing a mixed bag of non-Muslim Indians, Hindu and probably Sikhs (3 guys with turbans at least). The rest of the guys aren't what you'd expect of either Sikhs We know from the woman there's Hindus around. Look again at the women: no head coverings.
The history of the photo is:
Puri Beach, Bay of Bengal, India during the annual Beach Festival.
September 26, 2001.
Artist is Sudarshan Patnaik, the people shown in the photo are simply passers-by and spectators.
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 Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: Ellis Dee]
#723008 - 07/04/02 05:41 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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So, I was right. Everyone else was wrong. I
was right.
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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: bivalve]
#723076 - 07/04/02 06:06 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes, you were right. Congrats on being the only other person in this thread with good observational skills.
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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: bivalve]
#724020 - 07/05/02 12:40 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: mellojello]
#724168 - 07/05/02 05:12 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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That photo is sooo fake it isn't even funny...
A few people in here have such a simplistic view of the middle east it makes me want to puke... Dumbasses
The kind of hatred I see in some of these posts is the same type that fostered the events of 9/11
Mellojello, you got it right brother!!!
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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: politikill]
#725093 - 07/05/02 03:29 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sorry Politikil,
Ther eis nothing fake about that photo.
It iss real.
mj
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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: politikill]
#725208 - 07/05/02 04:49 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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The photo is real. The sand sculpture was done as a memorial to the victims of the 9-11 attacks by an indian artist. Please refer to my earlier post for details.
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Re: The Mother of All Sand Castles-Osama Style [Re: Ellis Dee]
#725882 - 07/06/02 04:14 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Even if it is real which I still doubt, the fact that this was done as a memorial only sheds more light on the fact that many of the people in this thread have no historical or cultural understanding of the Middle East.
A goodwill gesture that was met was racial slurs, what else can be said...
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