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Offlinegerbletits
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innoculating horse poo
    #7192403 - 07/18/07 11:28 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i was wondering, can i use a food processer to shred a healthy brf cake that has had one or two flush's already and use it to inoculate my pasturized horse poo or do i have to use a cake fresh from the jar?

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Invisibledysphoria
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Re: innoculating horse poo [Re: gerbletits]
    #7192417 - 07/18/07 11:33 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

you can use spent cakes
but it stands to reason that it wont be as vigorous as it once was.


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Re: innoculating horse poo [Re: dysphoria]
    #7192459 - 07/18/07 11:44 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i just don't see how this wont contaminate is all, i tried using pieces of a fresh cake to inoculate 5 more brf jars in a steralized glovebox and still lost all of them to contams, and this seems ten times more likely to me, just mixing an old cake up with poop. but i got the poop, got the cakes, gonna give it a try, thanks dysphoria, any tips on this process?

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Re: innoculating horse poo [Re: gerbletits]
    #7192524 - 07/18/07 12:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

nah man, no special tips
just make sure your poo is optimal moisture, and its mixed thoroughly with the mycelium...im sure nature will take care of the rest =)

this works on the basic principle that poo is not 'sterile' in the least, it contains tens/hundreds/thousands/etc of beneficial bacteria, that inhibit the growth of many molds. the poo is pasteurized to render all the mold and bad stuff 'inactive' for about 2 weeks, so that mushroom mycelium can colonize hopefully, in that time frame. once it does, the mycelium protects itself from anything else that might try to colonize, much like a cake does when its colonized and ready to fruit.

when dealing with grains and cakes, the tiniest bit of unsterilized matter gets exponentiated thousands of times since the grain IS sterile (as it has to be). And sterile grains mean anything can colonize it...from the green mold in your a/c, to the strep throat bacteria you accidentally coughed up.

but in your case, an already sterile, or previously sterile cake (i.e. no more 'free' nutrients to be ate, really) can be introduced to pasteurized poo, allowing the mycelium to eat and grow again, much like it did in the cake originally, but without the burden of having to maintain integrity and sterility.

so why dont people spawn to poo more often? ...dunno man, all i know is that it works, and works well =)


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Re: innoculating horse poo [Re: dysphoria]
    #7192756 - 07/18/07 01:21 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

In my experience, the results are generally poor when you attempt to force mycelium to revert from a fruiting stage to a vegetative state.


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Re: innoculating horse poo [Re: soulsizzle]
    #7192769 - 07/18/07 01:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Best just leave the cake on the dark for 1 month after colonising, this way it has not fruited and is colonised to the very core and should have its own defences built up.

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