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OfflinebzRooom
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casing vs. casing layer
    #7188905 - 07/17/07 04:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

From the prior research I've done I have always understood a 'casing' to be a layer of peat/verm/coir , what have you, 'layered' on top of your spawn. However, reading on this site I've found many ppl who seem to refer to their spawn as 'casings'. If these were n00b statments I could easily ignore them (they are not). Is there something I'm missing here?

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Re: casing vs. casing layer [Re: bzRooom]
    #7188914 - 07/17/07 04:31 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: casing vs. casing layer [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7188948 - 07/17/07 04:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

The 'casing' is the non-nutritious layer on top. The word is often used incorrectly here and repeated endlessly. I've almost given up on trying to correct people for the misused terms. 'Casing' is not a term to use for a project. The casing is the layer placed over the substrate to provide moisture and a suitable microclimate for fruiting.

It's very important for people to use the correct nomenclature on a site that dispenses information.
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Re: casing vs. casing layer [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7188953 - 07/17/07 04:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

People improperly call a sub tray a casing. I do not know why but they do.. I guess because of lack of a catchy name like casing lol..
Not to mention most people case their sub, so its short for a subsrate tray with a casing layer you are not wrong.


If you have a green house setup right and do not case cubes still perform amazingly although a casing does provide for more consistent results.


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Re: casing vs. casing layer [Re: bzRooom]
    #7189282 - 07/17/07 05:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Although not proper I also refer to anything using a casing layer a casing (except cakes) rather than such and such substrate with a such and such based casing layer it's simply so much easier consider it myco short hand. If there is a question then one really needs to describe what type of substrate as well as the casing layer used definitely.


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Re: casing vs. casing layer [Re: hyphae]
    #7189308 - 07/17/07 05:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Substrate - Nutritious layer

Casing layer - Non-nutritious

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Re: casing vs. casing layer [Re: hyphae]
    #7189384 - 07/17/07 06:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

When one word is used to desribe two different things in the same process, I'd say it's a misunderstanding waiting to happen.
Something like '[type](i.e.straw )spawn' 'spawn tray' or maybe just plain 'spawn' would sow less confusion.

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Re: casing vs. casing layer [Re: bzRooom]
    #7189480 - 07/17/07 06:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

You know it has never ever confused me I could always tell what people were referring to. I really think this is another case of being politically correct not nothing more. I would invite links to threads where people were actually confused to the point where they did not know what was being said as far as casing or casing layer.


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Re: casing vs. casing layer [Re: hyphae]
    #7189583 - 07/17/07 06:56 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

@hyphae-
As long as one OR the other is being refered to. Otherwise it is confusing. For example, I have read such threads and been left in the dark whether an actual 'casing layer' was even used. In other words, just because the contextual use of the word 'casing' can be deduced, doesn't make it simple and clean. ex.A:I'm putting my casing into the FC now... B: What type of casing are you useing?
Maybe 'semantically correct' would be more accurate...

Re: my last post. Speaking of confusing nonmenclature, what I refered to as 'spawn' should have been 'substrate' it seems. I was confusing it with a 'spawn run'.
I just found the shroomery mushroom glossary:
http://www.shroomery.org/glossary.php?ltr=S
and it is a very good source.

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Re: casing vs. casing layer [Re: bzRooom]
    #7189888 - 07/17/07 08:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Good point if they are asking a question then we definitely need to know sub type as well as casing layer type as well as all parameters in order to give an educated answer.


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Re: casing vs. casing layer [Re: hyphae]
    #7189910 - 07/17/07 08:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

This is one of the most confused thing around I have seen sub called casing and casing called sub so much I don't even try and correct it anymore.


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