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Caffeine in shroom
    #7187292 - 07/17/07 09:20 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Ive heard of using brewed coffe grounds to increase nitogen concentration in substrate but a friend of mine says he believes that the caffine can be somehow soaked up into the shroom ND dd  Cfiene buzz to it any truth in that sounds weird:rimshot:

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Re: Caffeine in shroom [Re: uba]
    #7187356 - 07/17/07 09:41 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I have never heard anything about it one way or the other,sounds pretty asinine to me

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Re: Caffeine in shroom [Re: Blutjager]
    #7187367 - 07/17/07 09:45 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I doubt the 2 milligrams of caffiene will do anything, if it even makes it into the fruitbody, which I doubt it does. :shrug:

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Re: Caffeine in shroom [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #7187477 - 07/17/07 10:32 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Mushrooms do not absorb the properties of the media they are grown in...RR stated this the best in a post about pasteurizing straw...He uses dish soap and was questioned about the dangers of eating mushrooms grown from straw washed in detergent ...He went on to explain that mushrooms used to clean-up oil spills can still be edible...(sorry RR...I'm quoting from memory!!!)...Anyway...The answer seems to be...NO...Your mushrooms won't give you a caffeine buzz...


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Re: Caffeine in shroom [Re: Brillig]
    #7188638 - 07/17/07 03:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Let's put it this way... I read once that some mushroom farmers use castor bean meal (bean oil cakes, whatever you want to call it) as a fertilizer for their substrates to grow their button (agaricus bisporus) mushies.

If you're not familiar with the castor bean; every part of the plant contains ricin.  Ricin is, by weight, the most deadliest poison, _ever_. (<-- for emphasis, not accuracy)

So, if the mushies can't uptake the ricin, which would kill the mushies anyway, there's a pretty good chance they can't uptake the caffiene or THC or tryptofan, etc.

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Keep in mind that inoculating or whatever in front of a flow hood won't help your bad substrate, your bad inoculant, your bad sterile procedure, etc. etc. etc. It's not a +3 flowhood of magic, it's just a tool.

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Re: Caffeine in shroom [Re: mycocurious]
    #7188646 - 07/17/07 03:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I once heard that mycelium can suck up metals which can be toxic to us but i forget which metal hmm..


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Re: Caffeine in shroom [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7188697 - 07/17/07 03:32 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

metals like aluminum are a different matter altogether, they *are* incorporated. To ask my why goes way over my head at this point...but yea, don't use aluminum trays...


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figgusfiddus said:
Keep in mind that inoculating or whatever in front of a flow hood won't help your bad substrate, your bad inoculant, your bad sterile procedure, etc. etc. etc. It's not a +3 flowhood of magic, it's just a tool.

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Re: Caffeine in shroom [Re: uba]
    #7188746 - 07/17/07 03:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Mushrooms do not absorb the properties of the media they are grown in




Wow. Unless by this you simply mean "they won't automatically suck up all chemicals" you're dead wrong. In only about two months here there have been uncontested posts, mostly from RR, about mushrooms taking on heavy metals of all kinds, mycotoxins from noxious molds, and others. Check out the thread on shrooms metabolizing DMT.

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Re: Caffeine in shroom [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7188790 - 07/17/07 04:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

shit wronge thread I thought this was the grass one I stoned.


OK once you get the DMT into the shrooms if its possible what are you going to do with these DMT shrooms? 60mg DMT oral is said to be around LSD. But you need a MAOI for them to work but now you are making the actives in the shrooms stronger so you will want around half as much shrooms as you normally take. So you will need around 40mg DMT in each gram (if you take 3 grams most of the time without a MAOI). So for all that work ya still gotta take a MAOI and watch your diet for a week.


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Re: Caffeine in shroom [Re: uba]
    #7188809 - 07/17/07 04:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

...

Did I say "LAWLZ I TRIPPED BALLS FROM DMT IN SHROOMS!"

no.

Practically, it's at best, unadvised to expect to trip from it. The interesting part, if you read the thread, is the metabolization into a different tryptamine (I believe there was a 5-methoxy group that joined in, which would, incidentally, make it far more potent).

Just correcting the idea that somehow mushrooms grow exactly the same regardless of their available resources.

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Re: Caffeine in shroom [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7188818 - 07/17/07 04:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I posted in the wronge thread


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Re: Caffeine in shroom [Re: MYSTIQUE]
    #7188856 - 07/17/07 04:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

lol i say if you want more potency go get some pans.


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Re: Caffeine in shroom [Re: MYSTIQUE]
    #7188886 - 07/17/07 04:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

To clear the air, I've never said mushrooms take on mycotoxins from molds, or anything else from molds. I'm highly suspicious of the DMT claims as well. There seems to be a general agreement that mushrooms absorb heavy metals from the soil and from the air. Many mushrooms exported from China have high levels of mercury, presumably from air pollution. Mushrooms from the area around the chernobyl nuke plant in the Ukraine are still contaminated with radioactivity.

I doubt seriously that any caffeine makes it into the fruits.
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Re: Caffeine in shroom [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7188912 - 07/17/07 04:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Mushrooms from the area around the chernobyl nuke plant in the Ukraine are still contaminated with radioactivity.




i can only wonder what sort of mutations take place there in the mushroom population.


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Re: Caffeine in shroom [Re: uba]
    #7190288 - 07/17/07 09:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry for mis-non-quoting you, then RR...I thought that'd come from you. I particularly remembered your comments about not-so-heavy aluminum being consumed by mycelium.

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Re: Caffeine in shroom [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7190583 - 07/17/07 11:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

My Dunny has lots of pure baby powder soft caffeine laying around and he said I can take all I need.


So I will use it in large amounts in my next sub. Then as soon as those new lama caffeine test strips hit the stores Ill buy one and test out my shroom tea for caffeine in it.


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Sippin lots of mushroom tea in a tye-dye shirt
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Beggin' in the parking lot for something to eat,

:onfire:DO NOT USE FIRE IN YOUR GLOVE BOX!!!!!!!:onfire:

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