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Help! dead cakes?
    #7004392 - 06/03/07 06:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Hello everyone... In on march 26th, i inoculated 8 1/2 pint jars with the puerto rican cubensis... i followed the pf tek for simple minds... none of my jars have contams, and all show growth of mycelium. The problem is that the mycelium growth stopped. Recently I tried flipping the cakes upside down. This appeared to help a few of the cakes, but again the growth has stopped. I tried birthing one of the cakes even though it was not fully colonized, and I got cobweb mold on the uncolonized part. I'm trying to decide if the cakes are dead or not. Can i revive them? would it be worth it to make a casing out of them? Please let me know of anything i can do. I also have a cambodian strain incubating now, and the progress seems to be going well.

Thanks, theangler

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Re: Help! dead cakes? [Re: theangler]
    #7004398 - 06/03/07 06:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Also, i read something about air exchange. My foil lids with the holes are covered by another layer and tightly sealed. Could this be a concern?

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Re: Help! dead cakes? [Re: theangler]
    #7004645 - 06/03/07 07:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

YES! thats exactly what it is -_- it needs gas exchange, thats what the holes are there for in the first place!

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Re: Help! dead cakes? [Re: AbyssWP]
    #7004700 - 06/03/07 07:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

You innoc'd in March? That sure seems like an extra long time for pf cakes. That would be 9 weeks. I believe the average is supposed to be 3 to 4 weeks give or take for healthy myc growth.


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Re: Help! dead cakes? [Re: mushbaby]
    #7006395 - 06/04/07 04:22 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, but bad gas exchange will have stalled his jars


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Re: Help! dead cakes? [Re: Nibin]
    #7007416 - 06/04/07 12:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Nibin said:
Yes, but bad gas exchange will have stalled his jars


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Re: Help! dead cakes? [Re: Blutjager]
    #7009231 - 06/04/07 06:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

okay, thanks guys, would you suggest i just poke some holes in the foil and keep the jars upside down to give gas exchange, but help keep contams from falling down? I've heard of tyvek, etc. but are there any types of tapes or something that are similar that i could use to tape over holes? thanks again for all the help

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Re: Help! dead cakes? [Re: theangler]
    #7187766 - 07/17/07 12:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

so i went ahead with the holes in the caps. This appeared to work. The cambodian jars are growing rapidly, and 3 are fully colonized and waiting to pin. The older puerto rican jars are growing slowly but surely. Do you think they are hopeless, or should I wait and see?

thanks everyone

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Re: Help! dead cakes? [Re: theangler]
    #7187806 - 07/17/07 12:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

as long as there are no contams, wait and see...

You gonna case or just fruit the cakes?


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Re: Help! dead cakes? [Re: Neobean]
    #7188647 - 07/17/07 03:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Providing that you made your jars correctly with the verm barrier on top you shouldn't be needing to tape up or cover your holes,that may be your problem right there is not letting them breathe enough,if you are going to tape over the holes use micopore tape,you can find it sold under the brand name "Next care" next to the band aids at any pharmacy its the one in the blue package and in the bottom corner it says "Hospital name micopore tape"

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