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UPDATE WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason
    #7179544 - 07/15/07 02:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

UPDATE: I'm having several of my trays doing this. I don't peek, I'm thinking it may be due to how i have them covered. I just put the stock lid that they came with on them. It seems they can breathe quite well with the lid, could they be breathing 2much? about 1 in 10 of my trays do this. its really pissing me off because they do it b4 i can even case them. there is tonnnnnns of the little fuckers and Its such a pain to pick them all. how can i prevent this BS??

I had my bulk sub trays colonizing in a dark place. All my tray's were fine I popped this one and it scared the crap outa me lol. Why the heck did this happen? Most importantly what do i do with this lol




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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: elpinoman]
    #7179548 - 07/15/07 02:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

it looks like they want a taller container. they also look like mushrooms... do you have some other trays you can take pictures of to show us what you think they should look like? a tall skinny mushroom in short container.. thats all i see.


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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: elpinoman]
    #7179550 - 07/15/07 02:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

wow that's almost a big "WTF"... ?

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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: jeetered]
    #7179558 - 07/15/07 03:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

to high of levels of co2


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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: jeetered]
    #7179575 - 07/15/07 03:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

its a 12qt container. as I stated above all my 12qt containers were chillin out in the dark waiting for them to reach 100% colonization. when i checked this to see how close it was to being fully colonized there was mushrooms in there. I've never seen shrooms this tall, or skinny. Who cares if they grow taller than the container they're supposed to, as they do in most 12qt tray bulk grows. there shouldn't be any mushrooms yet. all my other conainers just look like regular 12qt containers that are colonizing. heres pics


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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: budmanman]
    #7179576 - 07/15/07 03:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

haha those are funny

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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: budmanman]
    #7179581 - 07/15/07 03:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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to high of levels of co2




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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: elpinoman]
    #7179585 - 07/15/07 03:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

well, um.. pick them and eat them? they will probally talk to you and tell you if anything is wrong and what to do about it. Id probally clone one too, just for kicks and giggles.


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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: budmanman]
    #7179586 - 07/15/07 03:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

it was right along with 20other containers. why would this one have higher levels of co2, NVM screw why. what should i do with them lol? pick them and case the tray? or throw that bish in the FC?

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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: elpinoman]
    #7179599 - 07/15/07 03:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

well are you trying to grow a shit load to meet a huge order or something? i would personally just throw it in the fruiting chamber and see what happens and compare it to the others when they finish. Im always curious so i hardly go by the book.


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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: deformedreality]
    #7179617 - 07/15/07 03:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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well are you trying to grow a shit load to meet a huge order or something? i would personally just throw it in the fruiting chamber and see what happens and compare it to the others when they finish. Im always curious so i hardly go by the book.




Thats what im leaning towards doing. It's just one tray, got plenty more :smile: shit just blew my mind when i popped the lid. I was opening lids hella fast prolly opened 15 real quick and when i popped this one 1shroom is growing right by where the handles are to pop the lid so it was riiight by my hand i thought they were like some snake/worm things at 1st glance. I got scared like a little girl it was so funny. wish u guys were here to point and laugh

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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: elpinoman]
    #7179642 - 07/15/07 03:21 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

at least you didnt drop it and ruin it. Id probally freak out also.


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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: deformedreality]
    #7179687 - 07/15/07 03:31 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

My 2 cents: I agree with "bud", its high levels of CO2. The casing has already begun to produce fruit bodies. Just go ahead and put it in the FC.


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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: MadFairytale]
    #7179738 - 07/15/07 03:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

it is in the FC and im curious as hell to see what these things do lol

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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: MadFairytale]
    #7179776 - 07/15/07 03:56 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

high levels of co2 dont trigger pinning, you probably just have a really fast fruiting substrain, and the small amount of FAE it got when you chcked them and the small amount of light it got probably triggered pinning

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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: AbyssWP]
    #7179788 - 07/15/07 03:59 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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high levels of co2 dont trigger pinning, you probably just have a really fast fruiting substrain, and the small amount of FAE it got when you chcked them and the small amount of light it got probably triggered pinning




that was my guess at 1st. Figured maybe it was in some spot that allowed it to see a tad bit of light. some of them are growing in circles so its obvious the light source was very weak

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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: AbyssWP]
    #7179845 - 07/15/07 04:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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high levels of co2 dont trigger pinning, you probably just have a really fast fruiting substrain, and the small amount of FAE it got when you chcked them and the small amount of light it got probably triggered pinning




Yes this is true and high level of co2 will create fruits like that.


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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: budmanman]
    #7179910 - 07/15/07 04:43 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

what kindof fruit chamber do you use

I also use those 12qt sweater boxes for my casings...

go wal-mart


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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: aspore]
    #7179962 - 07/15/07 04:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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what kindof fruit chamber do you use

I also use those 12qt sweater boxes for my casings...

go wal-mart




60" wide but i got a whole room FC in the works, will b done 2moro prolly. I now use way bigger containers like 40qt or something. +1 on yay 4walmart

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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: elpinoman]
    #7180282 - 07/15/07 06:32 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Those are suffering from lack of fresh air. That causes long stems and small caps.

You also need to get them off the perlite. Set them on a jar lid or something.

Drill holes in your fruiting chamber, and fan a few times a day.
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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: euphoricpoison]
    #7180322 - 07/15/07 06:42 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

RR is talking about some cakes in a terrarium. i read that post awhile back. these were just hiding out in the dark waiting to colonize. by no means was I trying to fruit them. Something triggered premature fruiting.

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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: euphoricpoison]
    #7180324 - 07/15/07 06:42 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

My 2 cents: It began to produce fruits for whatever reason, but odds are that the fruit bodies it produced grew as they did due to the level of CO2. Apologies if that confused anyone.


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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: MadFairytale]
    #7180339 - 07/15/07 06:46 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Definitely high CO2 levels. Next flush should be a great one given proper parameters. GL


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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: MadFairytale]
    #7180532 - 07/15/07 07:35 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

It is pretty obvious that CO2 was the direct culprit as stated above. The issue here is what initiated them to pin before full colonization of the substrate. I would wager that they got some amount of fresh air that initiated pinning. More than likely the result of too much peeking.

Pick 'em and eat 'em. If you put a casing layer on, make it fairly thin. Your mycelium is already out of the vegetative state and into a fruiting state.

One thing that I have found effective in this situation is skipping applying a casing layer keeping the lid on the sweater box during fruiting. Just be sure to fan as often as possible. The substrate will maintain the humidity of the box through evaporation. Just inject a little distilled water into the substrate where needed in between flushes.

Because the substrate is not 100% colonized, it is susceptible to contamination. Allowing it to fruit in its own box ensures that if it does contaminate, it won't spread spores to your other casings.


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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: soulsizzle]
    #7180572 - 07/15/07 07:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

growem eatem enjoyem


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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: soulsizzle]
    #7182206 - 07/16/07 05:36 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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It is pretty obvious that CO2 was the direct culprit as stated above. The issue here is what initiated them to pin before full colonization of the substrate. I would wager that they got some amount of fresh air that initiated pinning. More than likely the result of too much peeking.

Pick 'em and eat 'em. If you put a casing layer on, make it fairly thin. Your mycelium is already out of the vegetative state and into a fruiting state.

One thing that I have found effective in this situation is skipping applying a casing layer keeping the lid on the sweater box during fruiting. Just be sure to fan as often as possible. The substrate will maintain the humidity of the box through evaporation. Just inject a little distilled water into the substrate where needed in between flushes.

Because the substrate is not 100% colonized, it is susceptible to contamination. Allowing it to fruit in its own box ensures that if it does contaminate, it won't spread spores to your other casings.



More than likely it was light remember pins can form invitro without any fresh air at all. There can also be other issues involved such as contams present.


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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: AbyssWP]
    #7182222 - 07/16/07 05:51 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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high levels of co2 dont trigger pinning, you probably just have a really fast fruiting substrain, and the small amount of FAE it got when you chcked them and the small amount of light it got probably triggered pinning




Pins can sometimes appear even when not all the pinning triggers are present. I've had fruits appear in grow-bags left in complete darkness (no peeking) for a solid week.

As everyone and their mother said, this is what an oxygen-starved shroom looks like.

Whoever said to clone them for laughs was mistaken. Cloning this fruit would be the same as cloning any other fruit in the batch. :P Unless you believe in Lamarckian heredity (i.e. unless you're a nutter), acquired characteristics are not passed down genetically. This is strictly an environmental thing.


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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: figgusfiddus]
    #7182975 - 07/16/07 11:46 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

so are these fuckers gona get any bigger?

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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: elpinoman]
    #7183230 - 07/16/07 12:56 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe. What are we, psychics? They're not turning into 100g monsters anytime soon, though--or even 10g.

Pick them and start fruiting as normal. Why do people cling to bad pins and fruits like they're the only ones they'll ever get?


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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: figgusfiddus]
    #7183431 - 07/16/07 01:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Maybe. What are we, psychics? They're not turning into 100g monsters anytime soon, though--or even 10g.

Pick them and start fruiting as normal. Why do people cling to bad pins and fruits like they're the only ones they'll ever get?




i picked em and threw em away. thanks

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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: elpinoman]
    #7184526 - 07/16/07 06:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Maybe. What are we, psychics? They're not turning into 100g monsters anytime soon, though--or even 10g.

Pick them and start fruiting as normal. Why do people cling to bad pins and fruits like they're the only ones they'll ever get?




i picked em and threw em away. thanks



Threw them away as in your internal garbage can I hope waste not want not.


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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: hyphae]
    #7184936 - 07/16/07 08:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

didn't quite understand your last post? but ummmm I don't like eating mushrooms, because I like being fully aware of my surrounding. I do it for the homies.........I smoke 2much damn chronic, I would grow it if it didn't stink, raise the electricity bill, take 4ever, require much more skill than shrooms. I just trade alota shrooms for a lil chron.

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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: elpinoman]
    #7211096 - 07/22/07 06:50 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

BUMP to the top I'm still having lots of problems with these little POS's popping up GRRRRRR

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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: elpinoman]
    #7211549 - 07/22/07 08:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

How are you fruiting them?

Give them more fresh air, that's the only solution. RR gave some good pointers for that.


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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: figgusfiddus]
    #7214215 - 07/23/07 03:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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How are you fruiting them?

Give them more fresh air, that's the only solution. RR gave some good pointers for that.




I tried fruiting them once and they stayed the same size. I basicly open the lid to find those damn stringy things. i pick them and throw them away but its such a hassle

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Re: WTF is this? stringy mushrooms growing for no reason [Re: elpinoman]
    #7214273 - 07/23/07 03:19 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Huh? You "tried" fruiting it? What are you doing with it now?

The substrate is ready for fruiting. That's why it's pinning. If you're not exposing it to proper fruiting conditions (high FAE and humidity), that's why you're growing these stringy things instead of full mushrooms.

I don't get what you're confused about.


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