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F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! Updated
    #7177900 - 07/15/07 04:34 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)



OK everyone, this all started when the place I got Hpoo from decided to start using cedar wood shavings in their stables. Cedar is a natural fungicide and made the Hpoo I was using useless!!! So I sought out alternative bulk manure.

I found that my local nursery carried Sheep Manure. So I investigated it and it turns out that Sheep Manure has almost the same nutritional value as cow manure and horse manure. So I decided to take a stab at growing with it.

Here is what the bag looks like.


Before I start I want to address a few things. New guys out there, do not make a first attempt with sheep manure. It is very hard to get the consistency right! I had a hard time with it and I've been growing for years! On the bright side, everything I do here can be applied to just about any bulk sub. This is almost EXACTLY how I prepared my Hpoo.

Second, sorry about the shitty pics, all I have is a cellphone camera

Now lets get started.

First I lay down a black trash bag that I have cut in order to use as a tarp on my kitchen floor. Then I gathered all the materials needed to get this job done.



Here is the consistency and texture of the Sheep Manure right out of the bag.


Its very similar to the texture of Cow Manure, but it does have a bit more fiber to it and it does seem to be a bit airier.

Here is the tin I use for mixing. Its a galvanized tin that I bought at Home Depot for around 15 bucks. One of the best investments I've ever made :wink:


I started by adding 40 cups of sheep manure. I soon found out that the bag contained rocks in it. Also a note, it smells nothing like ammonia or anything at all for that matter. It is odorless just as the bag states. So I spent about 20 minutes breaking up the manure and picking out any rocks I felt.

Here is a photo of some of the rocks I found inside.



After removing all the rocks and getting the manure nice and broke up, I decided to add about 10% coffee to the mix, which was 4 cups. This will be added nutrients for the mycelium.

Note: I'm not using coffee to up the N levels here as most do in Coir grows. I'm simply making a complex substrate, which mycelia loves.


I get my coffee grounds from Star Bucks. They have them conveniently packaged for you and leave them by the door. I didn't even have to ask for them, they are just there. Gotta love that.


After I finished adding the coffee, I wasn't satisfied so I decided to throw in some worm castings for even more added Nutrients! Like I said Mycelia loves complex substrates. Think of it as having your meal with all the fixings.

I added about 20 cups to the total mix around 20% or so of the sheep manure.



Then I felt the mix needed some Vermiculite to fluff it up. The place I get my verm from was out so I had to resort to Lowes verm and it was much smaller than what I'm use to using, so I had to add a full bag. It was around 20 cups.

I also had some left over 50/50 casing mix (50% peat moss/50 % Vermiculite. It was already P.H. balanced to 7.5 so I tossed it in the mix as well. It came out to a little over 6 cups of the stuff.

Here is what 50/50 casing looks like


After this I decided to add some Kelp meal to the mix. Kelp meal is full of trace minerals, and is said to give the mushrooms a potency boost. To the total substrate I only added 4 1/2 table spoons of the stuff. You are only to add it at the rate of one teaspoon per five pounds of substrate.



Now I added 10% of Gypsum to the total substrate. Which was about 8 cups. Gypsum adds calcium and sulfate to the substrate, it also acts as a long term P.H. buffer and helps deliver nutrients to the myceilum.



After mixing all the ingredients together for about 10-15 minutes to make sure it was nice and evenly mixed. I hydrate the mixture. Sheep manure is kind of muddy when hydrated just like cow manure. This is why I ended up using a full bag of vermiculite to get it to a nice airy fluffy consistency.  It was very difficult to reach Field capacity, as it is such a muddy texture. I ended up using around 8 quarts of water to hydrate it. It wasn't what is considered a typical field capacity, since only a droplet of water came out when squeezed very HARD. I was happy with the moisture content though and think it will be fine. This is one of the reason I don't think sheep poo is for unexperienced growers.
Next time I'm going to add coir to the mix to fluff it up more and give it a better texture. Coir and sheep manure would mix nicely I think.

At this point I tested the P.H. levels and got an initial P.H. of 6.0. I added Hydrated lime and test until I was getting a P.H. of around 7.5. It ended up taking 6-7 tablespoons of lime to reach this level!!! Thats an insane amount. I think this was due to the Peat Moss and the coffee.  If you use hydrated lime add it in small portions and wait and then test. Its powerful stuff.


Now that I have the moisture and P.H. where I want it, I need to pasteurize in order to kill off any bad bacterial/mold spores in the mix.
In order to do this, I add my mix into turkey sized oven bags. You can buy them at any store. I place the bags into a regular ice cooler. And load them till they are evenly filled and hold one another in place, due to the fact that they have totally filled the space in the cooler.



Then I heat a pot of water to 160 degrees. I use a candy thermometer in order to test the temps. Once the water has reached 160 and NO MORE, I dump the water into the cooler and place the lid on it and let it sit for two hours to fully pasturise.





Since I'm doing this grow via Mono tub. I take this time to prepare my tub while I'm waiting for the substrate to pasteurize.
My mono tub doesn't have a clear top. So to solve this I use painters drop tarps. You can get them at any Lewes or home depot in the painting department. I use 1 ml thick plastic. This stuff is great! I use it in the bottom of my tubs to help with removal of the sub later on, for dunking, or for tossing. Its way cheaper than trash bags, and you can cut it to whatever size you like. 2 dollars of the stuff will go a long, long way.




Now that the poo mix is finished pasteurizing I need to let it cool to room temperature in order to spawn. I don't know about you, but I don't have hours and hours to wait for this SHIT to cool down. So here is what I do. I dump all the hot water from the cooler and add cold water, then I dump all the ice in my freezer on top of the bags. I put the lid on and in about 15 minutes its nice and room temp and ready for spawning.



The way I spawned this, was I put down about an inch to an inch and a half of the poo mix and then added a jar of colonized Winter Wheat Berries to it then repeated this until I had a substrate of about 4.5-5 inches. This grow took 6 jars of wheat grain. I wanted to insure fast colonization.

Winter Wheat Berries fully colonized



Now after I have gotten the desired mix from my wheat berries and substrate I like to make sure that the top of my sub is as even as possible, to help with pin set down the road. They way I do this is I take a bunch of quart jar lids and clean them and lay them across the top of the sub. Then I take a fork and use it to fluff and even out the substrate as much as possible. That way when I go to case it will be easy to achieve a nice even casing layer.




OK now that every thing is set, I need to ad the lid to my mono tub. I take another piece of the painters drop that I've cut to the size of the top of my tub and stretch it across it, then use duct tape to tape the sides down. After that I put the lid over it and store it away in the closet to colonize.




Here is the tub 48 hours after spawning. So far everything is looking good.


The tub 4.5 days after spawning.




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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7177946 - 07/15/07 04:52 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Nice :thumbup:


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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7178075 - 07/15/07 05:48 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

VERY VERY NICE! I should have done that with my current grow. My grow is kind of the same as far as complexity of the substrate and amount of substrate. I started to colonize the substrate one week ago to the day. This is what it looks like as of right now

Keep us posted! I can't wait to see!


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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7178876 - 07/15/07 11:31 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

What are you using in your grow? Looks pretty good so far.


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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7179264 - 07/15/07 01:32 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

30 cups black Kow composted Manure, 30 cups Coir, 30 cups Vermiculite 8 cups Gypsum, 8 cups Calcium Carbonate, 4 1 pint fully colonized BRF/verm cakes blended in my food processor. thoroughly mixed into the blend.


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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7179376 - 07/15/07 02:09 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

wow its for pot plants also? lol. sheep shit is the shit. try and get some well formed turds. soak for few hours. they are great in bags. shakeable little round nuggets. you probably could smash them at the end to fully colonize the sheep turds. i grew them off just the round shape.

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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: durban_poison]
    #7179485 - 07/15/07 02:39 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

how big is the mono tub ?


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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7179545 - 07/15/07 02:56 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I'll keep an eye on this, i love F+ and have been using it for several months. I have been in no way disappointed. I also found sheep manure for local pickup. so i'm interested. Good luck man.

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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7179805 - 07/15/07 04:03 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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how big is the mono tub ?




Mines 30 gal.


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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7180845 - 07/15/07 08:44 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Xaxphaanes if you were asking me what sized tub I think mine is 36-40 gallons I can't remember exactly and there are no markings on the tub to tell me.

Its a big ass tub. Hey they don't call it bulk for nothing.


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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7182334 - 07/16/07 07:05 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

TrippinTeddy....How long do you expect before your tub gets fully colonized? I kind of think mine stalled. I could be tripping but it seems like It hauled ass the first week and these last two day it's been about the same.....


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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7182688 - 07/16/07 10:08 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

nice, i like how it says pot plants on the bag not potted plants

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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7183050 - 07/16/07 12:11 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Im hoping a week Shroomery1.

This is why I went with six jars of grain. I have no clue as to the colonization speed of sheep manure, so I went with as much spawn as I could to speed things along and hopefully avoid contamination.

Normally my bulk tubs are done in 7-14 days.


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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7185169 - 07/16/07 08:54 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

*Update*

Checked the tub out of curiosity today and so far everything looks really good. The mycelium seems to be enjoying its meal.

It does smell a bit damp, but it could just be the way sheep manure smells. Lets hope so.

I will have more updates in a few days. Now that I know that it is growing I will leave it be to do its thing for another three days or so.

Photo posted at the top in original post.


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Edited by TrippinTeddy (07/16/07 08:54 PM)

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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7185357 - 07/16/07 09:27 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

so what's your colonizations like? anything? am i high?

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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: jeetered]
    #7185377 - 07/16/07 09:31 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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so what's your colonizations like? anything? am i high?





Ha ha look up at the first post jeetered. For 48 hours it looks pretty damn good to me. The F+ seems to be a very aggressive strain.

Oh hell I will just put the pic here also lol.


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    #7185508 - 07/16/07 09:54 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

ah nice pic, yeah, F+ is ridiculous, i've been doing it all year now basically, it's great...

and yeah that's freekin great for 48hours.

gj!

I can't wait for you to tell me how your bioassay goes.

i found a local source for sheep poop im going to visit soon.

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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: jeetered]
    #7190067 - 07/17/07 09:03 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Wow Teddy is amazing.  That is a lot of work, hope it pays off  :grin:. Did you get any help with this??? Wink


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    #7192153 - 07/18/07 09:55 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Wow Teddy is amazing.  That is a lot of work, hope it pays off  :grin:. Did you get any help with this??? Wink





HA HA, yes My friend DOOBIE did help me with this grow. I see you finally got your screen name working. :wink:


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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7193322 - 07/18/07 04:07 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

sheep manure! excellent.  haha.

my only question is about where you said fluffing the substrate with the lids/fork ?  kinda lost me there...?

but i have to say, good idea on the ice, speeds things up a bit i suppose :smile: 
cant wait to see the results! best of luck

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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7193338 - 07/18/07 04:11 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Well you want your substrate and your casing layer both to be fluffy and airy. This will allow the Mycelium to colonize it quicker. If it is matted down then it will be harder for the Mycelium to grow through it.

I use the lids from the jars in order to help make a nice and level, even layer at the top. I do this so that it will be easier to create an even casing layer when I come back to case it. An even casing layer will help with achieving an even Pinset.

Basically I set the lids on top of the substrate then take the fork and use the fork to spread the sub out even. The fork is better at keeping things nice and loose. It won't mat things down.

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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7197049 - 07/19/07 10:22 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

so teddy how's it going? colonizing still? plenty of rhizo? My F+ looked like squid tentacles all thru the poo... the fruits, man, oh they rock...


let me know bro.

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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7197053 - 07/19/07 10:23 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I will be posting updates later on today. I'm guess it should be close to fully colonized if it has continued to grow like it did in that first 48 hours. I will have updates later on after 6 p.m. Central time.


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    #7197080 - 07/19/07 10:28 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

:smile: nice.

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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: jeetered]
    #7199954 - 07/19/07 09:29 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Here is the tub 4 days after I spawned. Still looking good. Hope this turns out as good as its looking right now.






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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7199991 - 07/19/07 09:37 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

thumbs up, should fill out and finish in a few days.

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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7215689 - 07/23/07 09:14 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Well it seems that my grow has started stalling. This could be due to a few things. Could be the Lime. I only added lime in this grow because I got hit with trich on my last grow and wanted to use this as a precaution so that it doesn't hit again. Lime can slow down your colonization times quite a bit.

Also I see a few spots where the mycelium is creating metabolites, so it might be fighting off an infection. Its a very small area though so hopefully if it was an infection the mycelium has consumed it and will be on its way to finishing its substrate.

Heres a pic I took on sat. That was 6 days after spawning.

I don't plan on checking it again until wed or Thursday. I hope it will be ready for casing at that point.



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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7215704 - 07/23/07 09:18 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Hey teddy, every single invitro poobag i spawn, leaks this shitty looking metabolite that is like OMFG i suck!!!,


then, two days later, there are pure virgin white stiped fruits lingering over a clean pooblock... with no nasty ass shitty looking metabolites...


you're fine...

peace nugka..

spawn runs shouldnt take too terribly long, i am thinking you packed your substrate down too much...

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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: jeetered]
    #7215721 - 07/23/07 09:24 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, I hope you are right.

I think it could be the moisture content or the texture of the substrate. It had a pretty muddy consistency to it. I didn't have the right Verm to help with that.

Next time I'm cutting it with coir or straw for sure.

I'm hoping for the best on this thing. If it gets fully colonized it should produce some monsters.


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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7219105 - 07/24/07 05:28 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Well I checked the tub today and Just as I thought I have Trich. This is the third grow in a row that I've been hit with it. Now I need to figure out why I keep getting it. The only thing I can think of is the Worm Castings. Its prone to trich. I've pasteurized correctly, done ever procedure by the book. It could have possibly been the hydrated lime that slowed down the growth of the mycelium and possibly let the trich take hold of the substrate. I'm running out of ideas on how to get rid of this shit so I can go on growing. Anyone got ideas?


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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7219142 - 07/24/07 05:36 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I dunno, the lime seems like a good precaution if trich is a concern. Sure, it slows growth, but it's supposed to inhibit trich far better than it does the cubes.

Perhaps re-check your pasteurization technique or prepare it in another room to avoid post-pasteurization contamination?


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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: figgusfiddus]
    #7219302 - 07/24/07 06:08 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

trich likes acidic subs.

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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: jeetered]
    #7219723 - 07/24/07 07:27 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I'm new at this, but was wondering if you stick a meat thermometer in them bags of poo while pasturizing. I heard the sub needs to hit 160, just because the water around it is 160, doesnt mean the center of the sub is hitting 160.

But you've been here a while and I'm sure you know what your doing.
Just an observation.


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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7220679 - 07/25/07 12:38 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I appreciate it. Trust me guys, I do everything to "T" by the books trying to avoid Trich.

I even make sure its getting adiquate FAE. I've Never had a problem with trich till about 2 months ago. I got it once and now it seems like an on going thing.

I've gone the extra mile by adding lime and everything. I make sure that my subs are reaching the proper temps.

the only thing I think it can be is maybe the worm castings. I'm leaving them out next time... sigh... this is terrible. Hopefully I can get past this green and go back to Pounds of mushrooms per grow.

This is really taking a toll on me. 3 grows in a row.. its really defeating.

Anyways, if anyone has more ideas please help. Thanks.


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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7232982 - 07/28/07 07:33 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

it might have picked up trich when you were loading everything into the tub...


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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7233009 - 07/28/07 07:59 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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I've Never had a problem with trich till about 2 months ago. I got it once and now it seems like an on going thing.

I Hopefully I can get past this green and go back to Pounds of mushrooms per grow.

This is really taking a toll on me. 3 grows in a row.. its really defeating.

Anyways, if anyone has more ideas please help. Thanks.



My heart goes out to you.. I'm still working on the same grow. I believe we started our grows about a week apart. I've been biting my nails every day. As far as the mean green is concerned, try a different room, Bleach needs to be your next best friend. Make your solution and disinfect EVERYTHING. Mold spores are present, that's a fact! If you have to shower and put on clean cloth right before you do your work, so be it. Three times in a row means it's pretty abundant. Especially if you're as sterile and precautious as you are.


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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7233125 - 07/28/07 09:23 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

trippin teddy u should look up "microban"

your house needs a fogger of it...

plus, if you get some microban, that shit can kill you if u use it like an idiot..

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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7233130 - 07/28/07 09:25 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Your substrate may be too wet,
try a drier mix maybe.

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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: jeetered]
    #7233164 - 07/28/07 09:44 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Hey Jeetter got an idea where to find that Microban???

Edited by TrippinTeddy (07/28/07 01:53 PM)

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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7233175 - 07/28/07 09:48 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Is there anything else I can use to "bomb" my house with?

I was thinking of buying a bunch of Oust and punching holes in like 3 or 4 cans a room. Not sure if oust is strong enough to kill trich spores though.

I know I can never fully get rid of trich spores in my house, they are always going to be there, I'm running out of ideas though. If my next grow is hit with trich, I might have to hang up my growing gloves till i can get this issue fixed. I have about 20 jars of spawn going right now so I hope there is an answer to this problem soon.


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For the record, I would show you my butthole but you would fall down and worship it as a God and you would give up everything to roam the land converting the heathens by fire and sword. Millions would die. No, no the cost is too great. I cannot.


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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7233877 - 07/28/07 02:10 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, i'm having mass trich probs. Even when my ph is 7 and everything is handled as sterile as I can be, my casings/bulk gets spots within 5 days, on everything. I might try that microban.

or to move, because I would move to solve this problem. I love my hobby too much.

I did find out that even when all 4 of my strains got some form of trich at some point after birthing, my Penis Envy Uncut hybrids have shown no signs, and it colonizes my casing/bulk so fast, contams don't have time to set up. So that's what's helping me get by right now.

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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: aspore]
    #7234982 - 07/28/07 09:03 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Try using coco coir it works quite well when doing bulk spawns plus you don't have to pasteurize it.

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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: DK1]
    #7235085 - 07/28/07 09:41 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Yes you do have to pasteurize it.


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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: DK1]
    #7235179 - 07/28/07 10:22 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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Try using coco coir it works quite well when doing bulk spawns plus you don't have to pasteurize it.




wow... uh yeah, u do have to pasteurize it.

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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: jeetered]
    #7235467 - 07/29/07 12:57 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Funny it worked fine not pasteurizing for me. I just put hot tap water in and let it sit till cooled to room temp.


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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7241220 - 07/30/07 08:30 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Alas, another one goes down. Ted, had to break the news. Out the tub went into yet another compost pile. To fill in the trich took hold again. The tub slowed then showed the toothy smile of the green death. No point in trying the salt thing or peroxide water and salt, it went deep. When the tub was taken outside it had a very rank smell of shit. The bottom side of the substrate had slimy green yuck, so I mixed all with the compost of an already started pile, let the outdoors kill what trich it can since it is hot. Now the area has to be bombed. But there was a good side to taking the tub outside. In a small patch that was pretty much given up on a small envious penis was popping its little head out, a surprise! This gives me hope of the fall time when there might be little surprises all over the yard. Please fill in the voids of my ramblings Ted. Because I am but an impatient newbie.


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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: jeetered]
    #7241399 - 07/30/07 09:21 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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Try using coco coir it works quite well when doing bulk spawns plus you don't have to pasteurize it.




wow... uh yeah, u do have to pasteurize it.




Wrong, you don't have to pasteurize coco coir. Check out this post

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5909750/page/0/fpart/all/vc/1/nt/2

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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7241509 - 07/30/07 10:05 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

dk1 u can follow that madness if you want, but i would suggest pasteurizing it, less chance of contam, just because you follow some lame tek doesn't mean what i say is wrong.. quit thinking you know everything ok? I don't, but i do know pasteurizing your coir keeps your contam rate down more.

kthnx bye.

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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7241516 - 07/30/07 10:07 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

and yeah, besides, this thread is pretty much over, give it a rest, trippin teddy, repost when you give it another go and goodluck!

you really might want to order some poop from cry0 at mycopath, you'll have instant gratification.

I might be lazy, and I may be a sloth, but i'm at least at a 100% success ratio since i started ordering my bulk subs.

do yourself a favor:

www.mycopath.com

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Re: F+ Sheep Manure Grow!! (Large Photos) [Re: jeetered]
    #7241600 - 07/30/07 10:38 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

actually I just met a girl yesterday who is willing to let me collect Hpoo off her property!!!!!

So looks like I'm back in the Hpoo game! Thank god. I do plan on doing another Sheep Manure grow, after I've had a couple of successful grows with out trich. Hopefully I can finally get past my trich problem.


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