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KingPins
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Cool Mist Inside Greenhouse.
#7164555 - 07/12/07 01:37 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well I dont want to deal with hooking it up with hoses and what not right now (I will eventually) and noticed that people said that putting a cool mist inside the greenhouse, towards the top would be fine.
My question, what about FAE, wouldnt this just be recycling the same air therefor there wouldnt be any FAE, or atleast not much. Is this really a true concern I should have? and will manual fanning 3-4 times per day be sufficient?
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Re: Cool Mist Inside Greenhouse. [Re: KingPins]
#7164562 - 07/12/07 01:39 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Put the coolmist near the bottom, not the top. Cut holes/windows for FAE. RR
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KingPins
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Re: Cool Mist Inside Greenhouse. [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7164781 - 07/12/07 03:17 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I know RR is a tough act to follow but does anyone have anything else to add. Perhaps just additional suggestions.
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Re: Cool Mist Inside Greenhouse. [Re: KingPins]
#7164869 - 07/12/07 04:38 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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RR advised me on the coolmist inside the greenhouse. i supplement it with moist perlite which seems to be doing well.
for FAE i just fan it every 3 hours or so.
personally i don't make any windows for FAE, although that's just my personal preference
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He is not really a tough act to follow, he does shit right the first time. I would really suggest getting the tubes and fitting and what not to get that coolmist and any others you maybe using out of the greenhouse, you can fan every few hours but I seriously cannot emphasize FAE enough and the coolmist sitting outside works wonders for sure. I am by no means an expert but here is what simple PF's spawned to h'poo with a top layer in a "martha" type setup can do.. 
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Re: Cool Mist Inside Greenhouse. [Re: jash420]
#7165254 - 07/12/07 09:29 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would suggest to hook up your coolmost with houses\pvc pipeing. I tried putting a coolmist in my
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Re: Cool Mist Inside Greenhouse. [Re: KingPins]
#7166082 - 07/12/07 01:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I keep mine in the greenhouse for simplicities sake. It sits on the bottom shelf with the flap rolled up to the shelf above so the intake is almost outside. That plus some holes/flaps is all the FAE you need.
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Re: Cool Mist Inside Greenhouse. [Re: simplemachine]
#7166121 - 07/12/07 01:14 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
simplemachine said: I keep mine in the greenhouse for simplicities sake. It sits on the bottom shelf with the flap rolled up to the shelf above so the intake is almost outside. That plus some holes/flaps is all the FAE you need.
may i ask how often you run your coolmist like that? i'm still working on my timing
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KingPins
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Re: Cool Mist Inside Greenhouse. [Re: jash420]
#7166852 - 07/12/07 04:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I plan on running the hoses (probably just 2) and putting the coolmist on the outside, I just wanted to be able to use it for awhile without doing any additional work.
Someone said that running hoses from the coolmist would burn the motor out? Anyone had this happen to them when running hoses?
Also RR didnt mention how long he reccommends running it for.. some people say 24/7 and others reccommend timing. Opinions here?
Thanks for all the help!!!
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Re: Cool Mist Inside Greenhouse. [Re: KingPins]
#7166944 - 07/12/07 04:35 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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run it for as long as you need to to get the proper humidity.
get a hygrometer to check the RH
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If i run mine for just 12 hours my casings are SOAKED with water.. I am having a hell of a timer finding a cycle timer for it This is with the humidifier in the green house and its a vicks design by kaz (the ones people say to use)
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Re: Cool Mist Inside Greenhouse. [Re: Grogan]
#7166972 - 07/12/07 04:45 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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what country do you live in? (if you don't mind me asking)
maybe people can chip in with shops that stock them
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KingPins
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Re: Cool Mist Inside Greenhouse. [Re: Grogan]
#7166976 - 07/12/07 04:46 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im sure ill just end up toying around with it and seeing what works best for me. It will probably require a little trial and error but im sure ill figure something out.
Ive thought about running a computer fan too, somehow mounting it to the side of the greenhouse, would this be helpful with a coolmist OUTSIIDE of the greenhouse, or only inside?
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Re: Cool Mist Inside Greenhouse. [Re: KingPins]
#7167013 - 07/12/07 04:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Being the most unhandy person on earth I have and most likely always will run my cool mist inside the greenhouse so I do not have to do anything but fill it up
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Re: Cool Mist Inside Greenhouse. [Re: Blutjager]
#7167076 - 07/12/07 05:10 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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With mine inside the greenhouse, it only needs to run one or two minutes, followed by five to seven minutes off. I tweak the cycle timer depending on season and ambient humidity in the room. If you run it longer than fifteen minutes, you'll have water everywhere.
I burned up at least 20 coolmists before I stopped modding them and placed them inside. The same two coolmists have now been in the mini-greenhouse for over two years. Using hoses creates static pressure that ruins the bushings, thus burning out the motor in a very short time. Coolmists are designed to provide humidity, not move air. RR
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KingPins
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Re: Cool Mist Inside Greenhouse. [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7167094 - 07/12/07 05:15 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alright, final question. I hear people here having trouble finding a good timer for achieving this kind of cycle, for the cool mist, where did you get yours, or what kind is it? so perhaps I could try to find one similar.
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Re: Cool Mist Inside Greenhouse. [Re: KingPins]
#7167102 - 07/12/07 05:19 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have not seemed to ever been able to find one with settings down to the min like that(Never really looked all that hard though)mine has only settings by the hr,I hate it but it does get the job done
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Re: Cool Mist Inside Greenhouse. [Re: Blutjager]
#7167120 - 07/12/07 05:23 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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hey blutjager, do your lower shelves end up with more moisture than the upper ones? seems like my cool mist will push the visible mist about 3/4 the way up my 4-tier, then it ends up falling on all the trays in the lower shelves. when the air circulates, the top shelf gets the perfect amount of humidity while the lower ones are just plain wet.
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Re: Cool Mist Inside Greenhouse. [Re: fish42]
#7167132 - 07/12/07 05:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I usually have the thing run for an hr and than off for two,with the zippers only half way zipped it seems that the moisture that gets to the top shelf gets trapped by the plastic and the lower shelves get to evaporate the water by being more expose to open air,I do sometimes have the bottom ones look wetter or the top ones look dryer and if that happens I will just swap their locations for a day or so till it balances out again
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Re: Cool Mist Inside Greenhouse. [Re: Blutjager]
#7168326 - 07/12/07 09:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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