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OfflineSurCal
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NWO,UFOs,MKULTRA,Illumanit,Freemasnons,Chemtrails,VeriChip.
    #7157910 - 07/10/07 10:03 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Ive been thinking about all that shit and I was just thinking about how if all that shits true All the concpiricys and all of that. Who do we have? Whos fighting them?Whos on our side? There would have to be another secret group trying to fight them off wouldnt there?


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Re: NWO,UFOs,MKULTRA,Illumanit,Freemasnons,Chemtrails,VeriChip. [Re: SurCal]
    #7157964 - 07/10/07 10:15 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

They're all related so you just have one big conspiracy to worry about. :tongue:


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Re: NWO,UFOs,MKULTRA,Illumanit,Freemasnons,Chemtrails,VeriChip. [Re: SurCal]
    #7157968 - 07/10/07 10:16 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Hoe do you know all these "theories" are true?
There are lots of crazy people out there ready to invent any thing that comes from their madness, it doesn't have to be true :shrug:
So what if there are secret organizations? Does it mean that they want to destroy the world? :what:


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Re: NWO,UFOs,MKULTRA,Illumanit,Freemasnons,Chemtrails,VeriChip. [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7157996 - 07/10/07 10:20 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I don't no for sure but i no our goverment is very corrupt.

Have you read about any of the things i was talking about? They all relate to eachother. Its kinda scary.


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Re: NWO,UFOs,MKULTRA,Illumanit,Freemasnons,Chemtrails,VeriChip. [Re: SurCal]
    #7158055 - 07/10/07 10:37 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

They relate on fucked up imagination and nothing serious, no reliable proof for that. Why would secret societies what to destroy us? Did you look at their history? They last for thousands of years. If they wanted us destroyed, they of of done it by now, don't you think? I think that this "theory" is just another lame excuse for our own failures.


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Re: NWO,UFOs,MKULTRA,Illumanit,Freemasnons,Chemtrails,VeriChip. [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7158094 - 07/10/07 10:48 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I think you might be uneducated on this issue - no offence. The "theory" is not that they want to "destroy" us but control us. MKULTRA was a project the military did using numerous mind alternating substances to see if they could be used for mind control - this is not a concpiracy its fact. The VeriChip is a Microchip that our goverment( or atleast mine) plans on implementing in our right hand or forehead for tracking,Iding,Banking,Medical Issues ect. George Bush announced it on 6/6/06. And the theory is that the reason these "secret societies" have been around for so long is because theyve controlled us for so long - supposedly. And All of these soceities really do exist. And yes i have looked at all of their history. I barley went into depth about all of this because if i did it would take forever i was just expecting some of you already knew what i was talking about. If you want links tell me. Please no bullshit posts.


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Re: NWO,UFOs,MKULTRA,Illumanit,Freemasnons,Chemtrails,VeriChip. [Re: SurCal]
    #7158151 - 07/10/07 11:01 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

"This thread does not propose a philosophical/spiritual discussion,"-

Forum Rules: This forum is for the open discussion..You are free to present pretty much anything of a philosophical nature you want for consideration - you can even espouse ideas most people would find ludicrous or repugnant.

Old Fireworks God is at it again.


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Re: NWO,UFOs,MKULTRA,Illumanit,Freemasnons,Chemtrails,VeriChip. [Re: SurCal]
    #7158192 - 07/10/07 11:10 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

we ought to extinct the conspiracy meme from our language pool.

all it really does is prejudice the facts and the reality around us.

the word itself is a bias that hinders truth and discovery,

for any disclosure made is instantly tossed out of the picture and labeled false in a knee-jerk fashion, stamped conspiracy! in bold red ink.

therefore i say, give no more power to this word.

it's unproductive at best.


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Re: NWO,UFOs,MKULTRA,Illumanit,Freemasnons,Chemtrails,VeriChip. [Re: SurCal]
    #7158199 - 07/10/07 11:13 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

This is no bull shit post, it's just my opinion.
What does it make it bull shit? Because it contradicts your statements?
Anyone can make some "links" that are so good that they make sense. In fact, everything can make sense if presented in an intelligent manner.
I am not sustaining that mind control doesn't exist, cause it obviously does.
But the term "secret organizations" is TOO vague.
There are tones of them. To which do you refer?
You're the one who came u with that thread, sustain it with some evidence.


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Re: NWO,UFOs,MKULTRA,Illumanit,Freemasnons,Chemtrails,VeriChip. [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #7158211 - 07/10/07 11:17 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

AlteredAgain said:
we ought to extinct the conspiracy meme from our language pool.

all it really does is prejudice the facts and the reality around us.

the word itself is a bias that hinders truth and discovery,

for any disclosure made is instantly tossed out of the picture and labeled false in a knee-jerk fashion, stamped conspiracy! in bold red ink.

therefore i say, give no more power to this word.

it's unproductive at best.




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Re: NWO,UFOs,MKULTRA,Illumanit,Freemasnons,Chemtrails,VeriChip. [Re: SurCal]
    #7158223 - 07/10/07 11:20 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Robert Anton Wilson mentioned someone's idea about monotheism, polytheism, and atheism. The guy said that the universe didn't seem quite chaotic enough to just be a product of random chance, but that there didn't seem to be enough order for a single God to be controlling everything. So he concluded that the the universe showed signs of having been designed by a committee, which often disagreed with each other and fought amongst themselves. Wilson applied this idea to conspiracy theories, and said that the idea of one world conspiracy or no conspiracies at all both didn't seem to make much sense, and that it's much more likely that there are several different conspiracies vying for power. I tend to agree.


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Re: NWO,UFOs,MKULTRA,Illumanit,Freemasnons,Chemtrails,VeriChip. [Re: Silversoul]
    #7158250 - 07/10/07 11:25 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

:lol:

Finally, now this is my stance.


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Re: NWO,UFOs,MKULTRA,Illumanit,Freemasnons,Chemtrails,VeriChip. [Re: SurCal]
    #7158279 - 07/10/07 11:34 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

93
Agents of the NWO used ufo's left over from the MKULTRA project and enlisted the aid of the illuminati and freemasons to drop chem trails containing microscopic verichips to inbed in the skin of people attending nacsar races. Is that how they are connected? Just playin' with ya.
Do'nt delve too deep into these things. Recognize their existance and intelligently rationalize what and who benefits from certain "conspiracies". But there is absolutly nothing you can do about things that run themselves, without people, such as what is considered the new world order. A government has to be corrupt, it is it's nature. Ask yourself: Are you an ant, a shark, or a dolphin? Recognize how these interact with nature and their purpose, and you will begin to relize your own.
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Re: NWO,UFOs,MKULTRA,Illumanit,Freemasnons,Chemtrails,VeriChip. [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7159140 - 07/11/07 03:34 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

MushroomTrip said:
This is no bull shit post, it's just my opinion.
What does it make it bull shit? Because it contradicts your statements?
Anyone can make some "links" that are so good that they make sense. In fact, everything can make sense if presented in an intelligent manner.
I am not sustaining that mind control doesn't exist, cause it obviously does.
But the term "secret organizations" is TOO vague.
There are tones of them. To which do you refer?
You're the one who came u with that thread, sustain it with some evidence.



I dont think you understand me. I'm just discussing the topic. I've never said i beleive in all of these things or am here to try and prove anything. And didn't mean your post was bull shit i meant it as like no spam.


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Re: NWO,UFOs,MKULTRA,Illumanit,Freemasnons,Chemtrails,VeriChip. [Re: SurCal]
    #7159169 - 07/11/07 03:45 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

I've never said i beleive in all of these things or am here to try and prove anything.




And I've never said that I believe you believe (or not) these things :shrug:
I was stating my opinion upon the matter. :wink:
Which is exactly what I said earlier, along with the fact that your post was ambiguous since it presented no evidence.
Plain talking.
Thank kind of thinking is also dangerous because it creates paranoia and uncontrolled fears.
That's exactly the reason why I believe, if you want to make this thread work, you should come up with some real evidence to discuss upon those specific points.
Until now your thread's question sounds something like: Illuminati and Bush and the free masons and manipulating the world. :shrug:
What could one comment on that?


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Re: NWO,UFOs,MKULTRA,Illumanit,Freemasnons,Chemtrails,VeriChip. [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7159182 - 07/11/07 03:51 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Can't the earth just blow up already and be done with it? Jesus


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Re: NWO,UFOs,MKULTRA,Illumanit,Freemasnons,Chemtrails,VeriChip. [Re: Kinematics]
    #7159200 - 07/11/07 04:03 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

You want Jesus to do all that? :what:

:lol:


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Re: NWO,UFOs,MKULTRA,Illumanit,Freemasnons,Chemtrails,VeriChip. [Re: SurCal]
    #7159319 - 07/11/07 05:23 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

SurCal said:
I think you might be uneducated on this issue - no offence. The "theory" is not that they want to "destroy" us but control us. MKULTRA was a project the military did using numerous mind alternating substances to see if they could be used for mind control - this is not a concpiracy its fact. The VeriChip is a Microchip that our goverment( or atleast mine) plans on implementing in our right hand or forehead for tracking,Iding,Banking,Medical Issues ect. George Bush announced it on 6/6/06. And the theory is that the reason these "secret societies" have been around for so long is because theyve controlled us for so long - supposedly. And All of these soceities really do exist. And yes i have looked at all of their history. I barley went into depth about all of this because if i did it would take forever i was just expecting some of you already knew what i was talking about. If you want links tell me. Please no bullshit posts.




Have you been watching too much Alex Jones?


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Re: NWO,UFOs,MKULTRA,Illumanit,Freemasnons,Chemtrails,VeriChip. [Re: Sinbad]
    #7161785 - 07/11/07 06:01 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I dont no who alex jones is. And have no evidence that theres a nwo or anything like that im just saying IF there is theres no anti-nwo group? Thats all im asking about.


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Re: NWO,UFOs,MKULTRA,Illumanit,Freemasnons,Chemtrails,VeriChip. [Re: SurCal]
    #7161899 - 07/11/07 06:24 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

alex jones is loopy, and i think hes doing more damage than good for the bits of fact gargled and spit out by him.

i know this is going to catch me some crap for backing this up, but ive seen enough proof to know that its not a figment of my imagination, nor the imagination of others. chemtrails are real. ive seen plenty of them, as i work outside all day, ive watched them turn a perfectly clear blue sky into an overcast smoggy looking crap grey sky in less than 10 hours. i literally watch these things being dropped, expand and create fake clouds. they are not normal contrails. ive seen normal contrails and these so called "contrails" within the same 10 minutes in the same part of the sky, one goes away as a normal contrail would, the other spreads and feeds off of the other chemtrails.

i have dozens of pictures ive been meaning to load onto here on my computer at home, im out of town, but tomorrow night they will be on my profile.

its easy for those of you who dont pay much attention to the sky, or those of you who work inside to dismiss this, but i cannot, and many many other people cannot either. ive even seen them spray the sky in a perfect checkerboard pattern before.

so go ahead, let the crap rain down upon me  :shitstorm:


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