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ACid or shrooms please help me
    #7154056 - 07/09/07 10:39 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Alright soon my parents will be leaving for a trip for 2 days and i plan on using shrooms or acid for the first time. I honestly don't know which i should try or use. with acid im afraid of how long it is but with shrooms im afraid of deadly ones. Can someone please give me some knowledge on what is better to use or try.. and if anyone has any knowledge on X if they could share that to? Also if i go with shrooms or acid what is a good dose for halucinating?

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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: pj dawg99]
    #7154083 - 07/09/07 10:43 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

shrooms, get then from a reliable source. Dont go and pick random mushrooms, get them from someone that someone has also gotten non-dying shrooms from. Dose wise, gram to a gram and a half imo.


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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: pj dawg99]
    #7154103 - 07/09/07 10:46 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I think you might need to do a little more research on your own before you use either substance.

www.erowid.org

Everything you need to know is there.

As for my personal opinion, I would say acid, which is longer but more easy to control. However there are benefits to both.


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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: aaei67]
    #7154155 - 07/09/07 10:55 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Why not both? Trip on shrooms the first day, acid the next.


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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: aaei67]
    #7154160 - 07/09/07 10:55 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

ive been reaserching for a long time i just cant make up my mind. i honestly dont know wat to choose.....

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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: pj dawg99]
    #7154194 - 07/09/07 11:01 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Well, i suggest having a trip sitter for sure if its your first time. I say, do mushrooms first. Dont too too many tho, half an eighth should be good your first time. I cant stress this enough, GET A TRIP SITTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: pj dawg99]
    #7154199 - 07/09/07 11:01 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

If you're looking to introduce yourself to psychedelics, I'd try a light-moderate dose of shrooms (~2 grams or so). It should be a comfortable, mellow, but eventful entry into this incredible world...

I have not been able to get a hold of any acid, so I can't speak on it-- but many here have used it as their first trip, and enjoyed it.

Preparation (and moderation) is the key regardless, and reading up on erowid is a great first start.

Ecstasy is an incredible experience, but it's not meant for solo trips-- that's a bonding drug in a big way.

Good luck, and be safe--


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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: coAsTal]
    #7154228 - 07/09/07 11:06 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

i plan on having my good friend but he wants to trip also and we would split an 8th... would that be enough to have a good high such as halucinating?? this of course comes with lots of weed and most liekly drinking

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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: pj dawg99]
    #7154232 - 07/09/07 11:07 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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pj dawg99 said:
i plan on having my good friend but he wants to trip also and we would split an 8th... would that be enough to have a good high such as halucinating?? this of course comes with lots of weed and most liekly drinking


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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: lipan]
    #7154236 - 07/09/07 11:09 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

alright im pretty sure im going with shrooms n im guna hope for the best but if any one can explain a X high please do so! or share any more exspirence or information

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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: pj dawg99]
    #7154242 - 07/09/07 11:10 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

do you feel like humping a couch or beloved family member?

check out the experiences on erowid.


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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: pj dawg99]
    #7154250 - 07/09/07 11:12 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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i plan on having my good friend but he wants to trip also and we would split an 8th... would that be enough to have a good high such as halucinating?? this of course comes with lots of weed and most liekly drinking




Oh hell yea man, deffinitly. Idk about drinking while tripping, i would do that first time. But smoking nugget is an awesome idea while tripping.


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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: lipan]
    #7154255 - 07/09/07 11:12 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I would stay away from ecstasy, it usually cut with other stimulants and in the end it really hurts your natural production of serotonin.

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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: MorrisonHotel]
    #7154263 - 07/09/07 11:13 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

X is insane shit and i deffinitly dont recommend it as your first introduction into psychedelics. Its very powerful, it makes you feel connected with everything.


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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: pj dawg99]
    #7154268 - 07/09/07 11:14 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I'd suggest two hits of acid, if you can get a hold of it. It was just right for my first time, and really easy to manage.


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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: MorrisonHotel]
    #7154274 - 07/09/07 11:15 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

After you've done it a few times you start to realize how fake the love feelings from E really are. After that its just another stimulant with speedy effects.

The first time can be amazing though.

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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: Seventy]
    #7154326 - 07/09/07 11:25 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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After you've done it a few times you start to realize how fake the love feelings from E really are. After that its just another stimulant with speedy effects.

The first time can be amazing though.





True, but sometimes the magic of X never dies,it varies from person to person. But X has what peopl call a ''Sweet spot'' , which is the exact amount of dosage which you would get the best effects, and you sually want to stick with that dosage.


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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: MorrisonHotel]
    #7155899 - 07/10/07 10:38 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Alright thanks for the help on X but ifeel like a wierdo askign this. I just got done listening to the song bin laden weed n i was wondering if it is really out there and if one blunt will make me fucked harder then i ever have been?

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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: pj dawg99]
    #7155926 - 07/10/07 10:44 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

ACID  is so much easier than shrooms in my opinion, its so much more visual and doesnt have to be as emotionally intense as a shroom trip, especially for a first try if you dont know what your getting yourself into...i feel like i can control myself and my mind alot easier on acid, like if i need to pull myself out of the trip for some reason, and in general i find its more giddy and less heavy than shrooms can be....i would suggest a hit of acid...with another on hand for when you realize how awesome it is :wink:


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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: pj dawg99]
    #7155935 - 07/10/07 10:47 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Myth: There are SUPER strains of weed. :rolleyes:

Fact: There are some very potent strains that, when grown by a PROFESSIONAL, have 28%+ THC and will kick your ass.

Sadly, there is a reality check with weed. Your Jack Herer seeds may have primo genetics, but their potential is not a 100% lock. They need to be grown by an experienced gardener to achieve these heroic properties.

It's just a plant... and unhealthy, underfed, underlit plants produce shitty fruit. It's that simple. Weed is similar to produce like oranges. Good produce comes from "Sunny Florida" and "Sunny California" because they get fed longer by the sun.

Awesome gardeners recreate perfect enviroments, and have stud plants cloned from original motherplants. The genetics are strong, and they force those bitches to work at 100% until harvest... That's kine.

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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #7155947 - 07/10/07 10:50 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

mmmm jack herrer, id say thats the best ive ever had....ive never been to amsterdam or anything, but ive smoked about every weed that i could ever get my hands on, and id say its my favorite.....right now im about to get down on some kush, which has a nice citrus twist, speaking of oranges


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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: boomer q]
    #7156002 - 07/10/07 11:04 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I had some shit called Miami Haze from a reputable NYC delivery service... It was second only to the Jack Herer that came along with it.

That haze was like citrus blast listerine and got you fucking baked.

Some guy was over our place when this all went down, and he was claiming to be a big "blunt smoker" who was all tolerant and shit... Yeah, two rips from the Baker, and this cat was glazed over and comatose. :rockon:

We only got that hookup twice, but it was fucking great.

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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #7156340 - 07/10/07 12:43 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

yea the best i would sy i ever had was purple haze or purple sometin... but all i know is in 2 hits i thought i was a train and was rambling on about the devil and god for a bout 2 hours... thats all i have to say

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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: pj dawg99]
    #7156976 - 07/10/07 04:01 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I dont know the name of the best bud ive ever had, but it sure as hell kicked my ass. At one point i thought it was laced. But it wasnt.


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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: MorrisonHotel]
    #7157127 - 07/10/07 04:43 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

i would do lots of research on both drugs before you even consider trying either. before i even tried marijuana at age 13, i had a basic understanding of how amphetamines, hallucinogenics and narcotics worked due to researching these drugs as a hobby that formed out of curiosity. after all the research i did, though i found lsd to be the most intriguing drug to try, i chose marijuana as it seemed to be the safest drug to experiment with.

to this day, i still research the effects of drugs - especially research chemicals. i have turned down numerous amounts of drug offerings in my day due to research, and thank god i did it. all sorts of things - heroin, cocaine, 5-MeO-DIPT, dmt, salvia... all these substances i personally consider dangerous, at least to myself (though i'm sure people here can and will argue about those).

understand that if you are going to be dabbling in psychedelics for the first time, you must follow a couple of rules:

1) if you have any sort of mental illness in your family, perhaps you should consider avoiding psychedelics altogether. no explanation, just keep it in mind. better safe than sorry.

2) prepare yourself mentally. if you have any sort of doubt in your mind about using the drug, then do not use it. you must be strong and willing to take that step into the next realm. you should without question be sure of yourself and fear nothing. that small little nag of doubt that you might have in the back of your head could grow into your worst nightmare. don't rush into anything, just think about it and have a positive outlook on it.

3) make your surroundings as comfortable and familiar as possible. make sure before your trip that you might not run into anything that might freak you out - ie, a weird statue that freaks you out when the lights are real dim or somethin. hide stuff like that away until your trip wears off. make sure you have everything you need in your house so you don't need to leave it. remember, your house is the ultimate safe haven. you don't want to run down to the 7-11 or whatever because you don't have soda. prepare! settle in. don't go anywhere. DEFINATELY don't drive!

make sure you have good music to listen to. something mellow is always nice, though it's all up to you. video games, tv, whatever. also, i'd run out and get an MC ESCHER book full of his trippy ass pictures, or some sort of optical illusions book. they can provide tons of serious fun!

4) surround yourself with people you love and trust. if the person you are doing it with seems a lil shady or you don't trust them, why trip with them? it's quite out of line. you want everything to go as smoothly as possible and have no need for a freakout. if something bad does bychance happen, are you going to be able to rely on this person to help you through it and get back to having a good time? think about it carefully.

5) don't panic! no need to, right? everything is way cool. remember when you're tripping, you still have judgmental skills and you can use them quite easily. it's kinda hard to explain keeping a firm mindset while letting go at the same time. it's a balancing act of such, but i'm sure you'll get the hang of it. it's quite simple.

if you want my advice, personally, i'd go for the lsd, but i would only take ONE and i do mean ONE hit. i used it before i ever tried mushrooms and i must say, it was like an awakening of sorts. you will enjoy yourself, trust. it's tons of fun.

personally, i find mushrooms to be a bit overwhelming at times, especially with the colors. i've also gotten "the fear" tons of more times when i was using shrooms in a comforatable setting as opposed to acid. not sure why, but i have. the only time ive gotten "the fear" on acid is when actual bad things happened -

ie, one time (before the use of cellphones) i got stranded at a small gathering of about 30 someodd people/friends. the cops rolled by, blared thier siren and everyone piled into cars and dipped out. i was out in the middle of a field by myself when this happened enjoying the stars when i saw all the cars roll out at once. i freaked out terribly because i had no car and was 40 minutes from my house. luckily, my friends came back to save me. if that's not a reason to freak, i dont know what is.

other than that, no freakouts. that's just me though.

i don't mean to be too preachy man, but you seem just a little eager and i kinda got the feeling you're gonna do something no matter what. i hope you take my advice.

and don't forget - your respect your body and respect your mind. feel free to expand it, but don't stretch that bitch out until it breaks like a rubber band. there will be great lifetime rewards for yourself if you use chemicals with care. if you respect the drug, the drug will respect you, and in that - you will respect yourself.

be careful, have a safe trip and if you need any help or have any questions, feel free to PM me and i will gladly try to help you out the best that i can.

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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: FleaAccela]
    #7158345 - 07/10/07 09:50 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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i would do lots of research on both drugs before you even consider trying either. before i even tried marijuana at age 13, i had a basic understanding of how amphetamines, hallucinogenics and narcotics worked due to researching these drugs as a hobby that formed out of curiosity. after all the research i did, though i found lsd to be the most intriguing drug to try, i chose marijuana as it seemed to be the safest drug to experiment with.

to this day, i still research the effects of drugs - especially research chemicals. i have turned down numerous amounts of drug offerings in my day due to research, and thank god i did it. all sorts of things - heroin, cocaine, 5-MeO-DIPT, dmt, salvia... all these substances i personally consider dangerous, at least to myself (though i'm sure people here can and will argue about those).

understand that if you are going to be dabbling in psychedelics for the first time, you must follow a couple of rules:

1) if you have any sort of mental illness in your family, perhaps you should consider avoiding psychedelics altogether. no explanation, just keep it in mind. better safe than sorry.

2) prepare yourself mentally. if you have any sort of doubt in your mind about using the drug, then do not use it. you must be strong and willing to take that step into the next realm. you should without question be sure of yourself and fear nothing. that small little nag of doubt that you might have in the back of your head could grow into your worst nightmare. don't rush into anything, just think about it and have a positive outlook on it.

3) make your surroundings as comfortable and familiar as possible. make sure before your trip that you might not run into anything that might freak you out - ie, a weird statue that freaks you out when the lights are real dim or somethin. hide stuff like that away until your trip wears off. make sure you have everything you need in your house so you don't need to leave it. remember, your house is the ultimate safe haven. you don't want to run down to the 7-11 or whatever because you don't have soda. prepare! settle in. don't go anywhere. DEFINATELY don't drive!

make sure you have good music to listen to. something mellow is always nice, though it's all up to you. video games, tv, whatever. also, i'd run out and get an MC ESCHER book full of his trippy ass pictures, or some sort of optical illusions book. they can provide tons of serious fun!

4) surround yourself with people you love and trust. if the person you are doing it with seems a lil shady or you don't trust them, why trip with them? it's quite out of line. you want everything to go as smoothly as possible and have no need for a freakout. if something bad does bychance happen, are you going to be able to rely on this person to help you through it and get back to having a good time? think about it carefully.

5) don't panic! no need to, right? everything is way cool. remember when you're tripping, you still have judgmental skills and you can use them quite easily. it's kinda hard to explain keeping a firm mindset while letting go at the same time. it's a balancing act of such, but i'm sure you'll get the hang of it. it's quite simple.

if you want my advice, personally, i'd go for the lsd, but i would only take ONE and i do mean ONE hit. i used it before i ever tried mushrooms and i must say, it was like an awakening of sorts. you will enjoy yourself, trust. it's tons of fun.

personally, i find mushrooms to be a bit overwhelming at times, especially with the colors. i've also gotten "the fear" tons of more times when i was using shrooms in a comforatable setting as opposed to acid. not sure why, but i have. the only time ive gotten "the fear" on acid is when actual bad things happened -

ie, one time (before the use of cellphones) i got stranded at a small gathering of about 30 someodd people/friends. the cops rolled by, blared thier siren and everyone piled into cars and dipped out. i was out in the middle of a field by myself when this happened enjoying the stars when i saw all the cars roll out at once. i freaked out terribly because i had no car and was 40 minutes from my house. luckily, my friends came back to save me. if that's not a reason to freak, i dont know what is.

other than that, no freakouts. that's just me though.

i don't mean to be too preachy man, but you seem just a little eager and i kinda got the feeling you're gonna do something no matter what. i hope you take my advice.

and don't forget - your respect your body and respect your mind. feel free to expand it, but don't stretch that bitch out until it breaks like a rubber band. there will be great lifetime rewards for yourself if you use chemicals with care. if you respect the drug, the drug will respect you, and in that - you will respect yourself.

be careful, have a safe trip and if you need any help or have any questions, feel free to PM me and i will gladly try to help you out the best that i can.

peace.




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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: boomer q]
    #7159581 - 07/11/07 06:49 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Don't do acid just yet.

Don't do Xtacy period.

Or wait until you're older. It does a number on your health. If you don't care about your mental health, than do Xtacy, but <opinion> acid and mushrooms are better </opinion> and <fact> don't have the shitty health effects. </fact>

Instead go with a 1.5-2g dose of dried mushrooms from a reliable dealer. Be in a comfortable mood/comfortable place. An evening in a secluded park with friends is a great first trip. Your house will also be amazing. Anything will be amazing. Playing with a cornflake. Looking at the ceiling. Re-exploring the world. Thinking deeply.

The only way I've ever "freaked out" on mushrooms was when I couldn't contain my joy and I... put on an improv comedy act. Others just sit and laugh. Especially when I'm doing my thing.

Some other things to look forward to (I'm not promising you these effects, but it happens to me)

-Endless energy
-Endless curiousity
-Endless joy
-Endless visual possibilities
-Invincibility (Not literally, obviously)
-Increased Charisma with the ladies (unless they're squares)

Just remember, if you are one to freak out and lose it, don't do mushrooms. If you can keep your cool and be easy, do mushrooms. The more laid back a person you are the more shrooms will agree with you.


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Re: ACid or shrooms please help me [Re: beatnicknick]
    #7162570 - 07/11/07 07:17 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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Don't do Xtacy period. . . . It does a number on your health. If you don't care about your mental health, than do Xtacy




I think it's a little disingenuous to bash X so harshly-- real MDMA has potential to do damage to your health, true, but with light use, in normal doses, it does not-- the studies that show harm are most always from heavy/ long-term usage-- not light recreational use.

Shouldn't try to scare people away from a drug based on personal biases-- but to each his own...


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