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MushroomTrip
Dr. Teasy Thighs



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I said "died prematurely", not "died permanently".... 
Ooops 
Excuse me? 
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PhanTomCat
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Kinematics
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Kinematics said: I'll hold the door open for someone, it serves me no benefit. Same with slowing down to let someone merge onto the freeway. None of it serves me any benefit, but I do it without a thought. I think selfless acts are something this whole world is severely lacking.
See, now with stuff like this, it just becomes routine.... It's not something you think about, it's something you just have programmed in as a "it just needs to be done" program.... Once it is normal routine to just do things like this, you don't think about how you feel, it is just automatic - going thru the motions....
That's good, right?
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figgusfiddus
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I think anyone still sticking around in this thread is misinterpreting just how loosely "benefit" can be used, in the philosophical sense.
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PhanTomCat
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Kinematics said: That's good, right?
In my opinion, it is just common courtesy.... I think most would consider that a good thing.... 
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figgusfiddus said: I think anyone still sticking around in this thread is misinterpreting just how loosely "benefit" can be used, in the philosophical sense.
Maybe that is the part I am missing.... It paints one possibility as the only outcome - no matter who or what the endless possibilities can be....
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scout24
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An altruistic act may not directly benefit the individual, but he may derive a benefit by creating an environment where his genes are more likely to be passed on.
From Edward Wilson's 'On Human Nature':"Generosity without hope of reciprocation is the rarest and most cherished on human behaviors, subtle and difficult to define, distributed in a highly selective pattern, surrounded by ritual and circumstances, and honered by medallions and emotional orations. We sanctify true altruism in order to reward it and thus to make it less than true, and by that means to promote its recurrence in others."
Wilson notes occurences of altruism in other animals and finds that in social insects 'that we encounter altruistic suicide comparable to man's.'
"Honeybee workers have stings lined with reversed barbs like those on fishooks. When a bee attacks an intruder at the hive, the sting catches in the skin; as the bee moves away, the sting remains embedded, pulling out the entire venom gland and much of the viscera with it. The bee soon dies, but its attack has been more effective than if it withdrew the sting intact. The reason is that the venom gland continues to leak poison into the wound, while a bananalike odor emanating from the base of the sting incites other members of the hive to launch kamikaze attacks of their own at the same spot. From the point of view of the colony as a whole, the suicide of an individual accomplishes more than it loses."
"Sharing the capacity for extreme sacrifice does not mean that the human mind and the 'mind' of an insect (if such exists) work alike. But it does mean that the impulse need not be ruled divine or otherwise transcendental, and we are justified in seeking a more conventional biological explanation."
That's right... bananalike.
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PhanTomCat
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Re: Is there.. [Re: scout24]
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 Banana-naner...!
I have actually never heard it described that way before, they usually just describe the stinger attractant as a pheromone....
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cognitiveshift
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My Condolences are with you.
However i do believe that instead of mourning the loved ones destiny that you should be celebrating and remembering all the good times and all the joy that they brought to your life.
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PhanTomCat
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Who were you replying to.....? 
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MushroomTrip
Dr. Teasy Thighs



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That's what I'm asking myself too
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hummermania00
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robbyberto said: I'm still stuck on basic philosophy here guys. They didn't teach it too much in Georgia's public schools.  My argument is that there is no good deed that that doesn't benefit the performer of the deed. He will always benefit in some way, either by feeling good about it or because people will remember his good deed and be thought upon positively for performing said deed.
As lawyers are fond of illustrating: "no good deed goes unpunished".
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