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OfflineTeotzlcoatl
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Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes
    #7122496 - 07/03/07 12:18 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes-

Do not include Aya' made purely of Caapi and Psychotria or the western version of Aya' which includes Aya' made with Syrian rue and mimosa root bark.

Just make sure it's "Alternative"

Here's my recipe for "Supa-Hausa"


-Super Ayahuasca-
All Ingredients should be as fresh as possible.
Banisteriopsis caapi "Cielo" 3in+ thick vine, flowers and leaves
Distilled or Bottled water
Pomegranate and/or Blueberry juice
Passiflora incarnata Flowers, thick vine and/or Fruit
Diplopterys cabrerana leaves and thick vine
Psychotria viridis leaves and flowers
Ilex guayusa (Guayusa) leaves


-Other Possible Additives-
Psilocybin Mushrooms
Calea zacatechichi
Trichocereus terscheckii (Which is said to contain DMT)
Silene capensis
Gymnopilus spectabilis
Heimia salicifolia
LSA Seeds- H.B. Woodrose, Morning Glory, Ect.
Pandanus "Screw Pine" (said to contain Dmt and/or MAOI)



Or how about all of them???:grin: You'd never come back...LOL!


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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7137309 - 07/06/07 12:56 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

oi! come on, i know somebody thrown HBWR into aya' before.


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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7141937 - 07/07/07 12:10 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Psilocybin Mushrooms
Calea zacatechichi
Trichocereus terscheckii (Which is said to contain DMT)
Silene capensis
Gymnopilus spectabilis
Heimia salicifolia
LSA Seeds- H.B. Woodrose, Morning Glory, Ect.
Pandanus "Screw Pine" (said to contain Dmt and/or MAOI)

id say cut out the heimia salicifolia. i have used Calea before it works nice


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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: thedudenj]
    #7142176 - 07/07/07 01:31 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

have u used any of the other ones?


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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7142388 - 07/07/07 02:22 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

using juices in it and fresh fruit works great. i have used Passiflora incarnata Flowers
Diplopterys cabrerana leaves
Psychotria viridis leaves
Gymnopilus Jr
P torch
LSA Seeds- H.B. Woodrose, Morning Glory, rivea C.
Banisteriopsis caapi
Calea zacatechichi
blue lotus
fresh fruits, oranges,limes,lemons
virola
mimosa
datura
burgmanisa
and various other things yeah i have honed my brew


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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7142396 - 07/07/07 02:25 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I´m sorry but those recipes are not Aya anymore.
True Ayahuasca is - B. caapi AND Psychotria OR Diplopterys.
Rue + Mimosa is not Ayahuasca, is ANAHUASCA.
These your recipes are something else.


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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7142450 - 07/07/07 02:44 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

no if it has caapi its ayahuasca his recipe has caapi thus aya...
he didnt even bring up rue as one of his ingrediants


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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: thedudenj]
    #7142470 - 07/07/07 02:50 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Sorry but Caapi + Mimosa wouldn´t be Ayahuasca, it would fall into Anahuasca ok?
Ayahuasca are the traditional mixes, Yagé is Caapi alone.
I just wanted it to get straight, many people take Rue + Mimosa or Caapi + mimosa and think they´re taking Aya, when they´re not - Caapi and Mimosa were never mixed originally as they´re from very distant places.


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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7142525 - 07/07/07 03:05 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

sigh yes AYA alone is true ayahuasca but it + pretty much any admixture is still aya so what about the traditional Caapi and burgmansia im certain theres at least one tribe thats brew is caapi and burgmansia


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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: thedudenj]
    #7142543 - 07/07/07 03:12 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, and that´s called Toé.


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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7142558 - 07/07/07 03:16 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

he brew isnt called toe just the burgmansia it would be aya and toe


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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: thedudenj]
    #7142564 - 07/07/07 03:18 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7142766 - 07/07/07 04:20 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

i might add that i dont call my brews aya i call it sacred TEA ! cause it does something differnt then ayahuasca and is very sacred tho lady aya sometimes makes her appearance and is always with the my brew


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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: thedudenj]
    #7143505 - 07/07/07 08:23 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

This is called Alternative Aya' Recipes, It's aya' cause it has caapi but other wise it's ALTERNATIVE!

Rue containing recipes are fine, just not very alternative...

Let's not argue over what real Aya' is....

Tell about some of the experience PLEASE, VERY INTERESTED

I would love to hear about the following and what esle was in the brew...

Gymnopilus Jr
P torch
LSA Seeds- H.B. Woodrose, Morning Glory, rivea C.
Banisteriopsis caapi
Calea zacatechichi
blue lotus ( i thought opiates interact badly with aya'?)
fresh fruits, oranges,limes,lemons
virola


THANKS MAN

PS. Lotus always brings me down from a trip (?)


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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7143597 - 07/07/07 08:47 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

blue lotus isnt an opiate, btw a brew i really like is just chaliponga and caapi. it works great tho i do love p.torch,caapi,virdis, chaliponga,mismosa,rue, can psilo mushrooms(my friend got em and i couldnt ID em) possibly copes,and virola. as i said i never make the same brew its always specific to who im using it on and the occasion


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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: thedudenj]
    #7143602 - 07/07/07 08:48 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

what kind of chemicals does lotus contain?


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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7143613 - 07/07/07 08:50 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

never mind it does Both Nymphaea caerulea and Nelumbo nucifera contain the alkaloids nuciferine and apomorphine, which have been recently isolated by independent labs shitty that means it can probally come up in a drug test. recent shit here


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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: thedudenj]
    #7144938 - 07/08/07 02:15 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

o so i was correct?


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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7146207 - 07/08/07 12:06 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

yeah its a new study says that apomorphine is in it the old news said just nuciferine. tho i cant say they feel very opiate like just slightly. reguardless its not bad to put it in your tea i really only used it once or twice smoking it tho is nice with the tea


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Re: Alternative Ayahuasca Recipes [Re: thedudenj]
    #7146778 - 07/08/07 02:40 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Caapi
Mimosa
Chaliponga
Viridis
Tabernathe Iboga Root
Voacanga Africana root
Psilocybes
Amanita
Cannabis
Papaver Somniferum pods
Salvia "smoked or quidded"
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