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Shroomnibbler
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40 grams of fresh Psilocybe Tampanensis. Too much?
#7097828 - 06/27/07 06:27 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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I weigh like 112 kgs. 247 LBS
My last trip was 40 grams of fresh cubies. I know these are stronger. Last time I had everything under control, and wanted more.
I should be fine right? I will be alone, in small time nature, a quiet meadow outside of town, with few passer bys.
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Re: 40 grams of fresh Psilocybe Tampanensis. Too much? [Re: Shroomnibbler]
#7097879 - 06/27/07 07:14 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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They're about 3 times stronger, if I recall.
Why would you ever need to jump to 3x a dosage?
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Re: 40 grams of fresh Psilocybe Tampanensis. Too much? [Re: Koala Koolio]
#7098139 - 06/27/07 09:20 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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- I heard they were twice as strong.
I´m back already
This is what happened.
I took the 40 grams of fresh tampanensis and put them in a blender with a liter of orange juice. I heard and figured it would work sooner and harder that way. I bottled this mixture and took it with me.
I walked out to a silent lonely place in nature. grass, a stream, trees. I was all by myself- from what I´d heard, at such a high dose, you won´t be social, it ll be in your head and there alone-
I had a thick photography book with me. With all sorts of laureated beautiful, sexy or just weird pictures, in good prints, I thought they might be interesting to look at while under the influence.
I chugged down the liter of this stuff. It was gross. I had always heard Tampa was an agreeable tasting mushroom?!
So I drank this liter of yuck and then some mineral water I´d also brought to wash it down with and then I ate a slice of bread to get the taste out of my mouth.
My stomach felt uncomfortable and I sat on the ground waiting for it to sink down in my stomach, trying not to be sick.
After about 15 minutes, the urge becomes too powerful, my stomach contracts involuntarily and I spray out the whole load into the grass. A next wave comes and eliminates the remainder, then I throw up some more slime. I still stayed there for an hour, lying around looking at some pictures, thinking I might still have enough in me to get too influenced to go back into town. After an hour and a half, still nothing. I decide to walk home. Here I am again!
Fuck!
I paid money for that. The source is good, its the same people I got my last doses from, they were good. I risked the fucking border crossing for this "trip".
I just looked at the paper they gave me with the pack of shrooms again- it said to wash them first. I didn´t. could that be what made them yuck and made me throw them up?
Edited by Shroomnibbler (06/27/07 10:41 AM)
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Re: 40 grams of fresh Psilocybe Tampanensis. Too much? [Re: Shroomnibbler]
#7098184 - 06/27/07 09:34 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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ya, but I would definetly go with another way of ingesting. Maybe if you dried them out, then eat them. But thats alot of weight in your stomach, ontop of a litre of OJ.
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Shroomnibbler
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Re: 40 grams of fresh Psilocybe Tampanensis. Too much? [Re: sandman_130]
#7098342 - 06/27/07 10:38 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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I´m fucking pissed off. I´m a glutton, I can gulp down 2 liters of anything and not be sick.
I was not sick because my stomach was too full. When that happens, its right after you eat or drink something. This was 15 minutes later. It felt more like my stomach was rejecting the contents than that it was too full.
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Re: 40 grams of fresh Psilocybe Tampanensis. Too much? [Re: Shroomnibbler]
#7098345 - 06/27/07 10:39 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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I feel like my source fucked me. Tampanensis doesn´t sell. These had probably been on the shelf (fridge) too long.
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Re: 40 grams of fresh Psilocybe Tampanensis. Too much? [Re: Shroomnibbler]
#7099276 - 06/27/07 03:12 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Are you in europe or something? (Assuming so with your border mention, and the fact that it's fresh tampanensis)
If not, I'd say the chance of them actually being tampanensis is very slim.
As for being in the fridge too long, they'd be obviously moldy before a significant loss of potency occured.
15 minutes is usually long enough to start feeling some effects, especially if you've eaten a large amount (or high potency, or both in this case) mushrooms.
Either they weren't tampanensis (can ID fresh ones easily with a simple google search), or it's just your tolerance, and perhaps holding them in just a few minutes longer would have been enough.
Maybe your body realized, "WTF? Did this guy seriously just eat 40 fresh grams of tampanensis? Not interested." Hehe. I'm pretty sure tampanensis are > 2x as strong.
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Re: 40 grams of fresh Psilocybe Tampanensis. Too much? [Re: Koala Koolio]
#7099321 - 06/27/07 03:22 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Koala Koolio said: Are you in europe or something? (Assuming so with your border mention, and the fact that it's fresh tampanensis)
If not, I'd say the chance of them actually being tampanensis is very slim.
As for being in the fridge too long, they'd be obviously moldy before a significant loss of potency occured.
15 minutes is usually long enough to start feeling some effects, especially if you've eaten a large amount (or high potency, or both in this case) mushrooms.
Either they weren't tampanensis (can ID fresh ones easily with a simple google search), or it's just your tolerance, and perhaps holding them in just a few minutes longer would have been enough.
Maybe your body realized, "WTF? Did this guy seriously just eat 40 fresh grams of tampanensis? Not interested." Hehe. I'm pretty sure tampanensis are > 2x as strong.
i allways thought they were about equal to cubes. and he said that he looked at the package and it said to wash them first. so that tells me he IS in europe, plus he said he risked the border crossing.
even at 40g wet thats still 4 g dry which is a strong trip even for cubensis.
I think the sludge just hit his stomache wrong Personally id of just eaten the fuckers and washed it down with the juice.

youll get it next time.
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Re: 40 grams of fresh Psilocybe Tampanensis. Too much? [Re: sui]
#7099359 - 06/27/07 03:30 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
http://www.shroomery.org/8420/Psilocybe-mexicana-P-tampanensis-sclerotia#potency
How does the potency of P. mexicana and P. tampanensis sclerotia compare to Psilocybe cubensis fruitbodies?
Sclerotia is roughly 70% water by weight while mushrooms are around 90% water. Dry sclerotia is 2/3 as potent as dry cubensis fruits, while fresh sclerotia is twice as potent as fresh cubensis. This is due to the fact that sclerotia contain 3 times more dry matter per quantity of fresh material.
huh.... interesting.
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Re: 40 grams of fresh Psilocybe Tampanensis. Too much? [Re: sui]
#7099568 - 06/27/07 04:21 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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it was definately real tampanensis. I dont take things before I read about them.
what do you think one should consider washing it?
The only thing I suspect the source of it to have had it in the fridge for too long, or them having manure on them which set off the nausea
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Re: 40 grams of fresh Psilocybe Tampanensis. Too much? [Re: Shroomnibbler]
#7099582 - 06/27/07 04:24 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shroomnibbler said: it was definately real tampanensis. I dont take things before I read about them.
what do you think one should consider washing it?
The only thing I suspect the source of it to have had it in the fridge for too long, or them having manure on them which set off the nausea
no manure for Tamps.
I think the sludge just hit your stomache wrong. I really doubt it was the shrooms. Try taking it slower next time. try eating them and washing it down with juice.
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Re: 40 grams of fresh Psilocybe Tampanensis. Too much? [Re: sui]
#7099678 - 06/27/07 05:00 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
suimush said:
Quote:
http://www.shroomery.org/8420/Psilocybe-mexicana-P-tampanensis-sclerotia#potency
How does the potency of P. mexicana and P. tampanensis sclerotia compare to Psilocybe cubensis fruitbodies?
Sclerotia is roughly 70% water by weight while mushrooms are around 90% water. Dry sclerotia is 2/3 as potent as dry cubensis fruits, while fresh sclerotia is twice as potent as fresh cubensis. This is due to the fact that sclerotia contain 3 times more dry matter per quantity of fresh material.
huh.... interesting.
Yeah, as it says, the variations are due to a different water content than normal fruit bodies. Still, it raises a good question: was it sclerotia or fruit?
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Re: 40 grams of fresh Psilocybe Tampanensis. Too much? [Re: Koala Koolio]
#7102071 - 06/28/07 02:51 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Truffles
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Re: 40 grams of fresh Psilocybe Tampanensis. Too much? [Re: Shroomnibbler]
#7104035 - 06/28/07 04:10 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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That makes much more sense, then.
Also might explain your stomach's bad reaction, though I find truffles easier to eat.
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Re: 40 grams of fresh Psilocybe Tampanensis. Too much? [Re: Koala Koolio]
#7105161 - 06/28/07 09:32 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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any who i find them awsome i had em in amsterdam for my first mushroom trip, amazing
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Re: 40 grams of fresh Psilocybe Tampanensis. Too much? [Re: thedudenj]
#7105603 - 06/28/07 11:25 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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I felt really lame. all prepared, going into nature, having sneaked them into here, only to barf all over the place and feel nothing.
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Re: 40 grams of fresh Psilocybe Tampanensis. Too much? [Re: Shroomnibbler]
#7105853 - 06/29/07 12:40 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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First of all, citric acid can easily give you heart burn when tripping. Heart makes you always want to burp, and your stomach uncomfortable.
Doesn't mixing cubes with citric acid create a body load? I could be wrong but I think that I read that somewhere in the Lemon experience. Citric acid also lessens the trip time if I am correct.
Correct me if I am wrong.
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