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Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics*
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I picked up a kilo of MHRB recently, very high quality stuff.



I also picked up a couple of 2oz bottles of this MAOI to potentiate DMT-



I cut it up into 1" pieces and then used a coffee grinder to pulverize it into very fine material.
I carefully weighed out 80gms of the material in 20gm increments.



I then put the 80 grams in this



I then added some of this-



I then took this



and put it on this magnetic stirrer/hot plate



After 48 hours this is the result......



as you can see there is very nice separation of the liquid and the pulp. Notice the beautiful deep purple color of the juice.

This is a project underway. The next step is to either pour the fluid off into a separator funnel and allow to sit further another day or just siphon the purple juice off with a baster, either way the resultant liquid will be poured into an evaporating dish.
I should note hear that 80grams was chosen because I generally only need 8 grams of this stuff to achieve a fully psychedelic state of being. So My hypothesis is that in the end I will have 10 very strong doses.
I believe this method of crude extraction to be extremely efficient in extracting most all of the DMT contained there in.
I must note here for those not familiar with exactly whats going on, The objective of this process is to use the leftover residue in the evaporation dish just like it is putting it into gel caps. So the total of the material left in the evaporating dish will be weighed, and then I will divide it by ten and that will be one dose.

I have not decided yet whether I will evaporate the Harmaline solution also or just use it as a liquid. I have more pictures than I cant upload today as I have exceeded my limit so.... Expect more photos tomorrow. This is my second time doing this procedure. The first time I did it with 10gms of MHRB. I got a single dose that was great!

I will keep you all posted with updates and a trip report when complete.
I would greatly appreciate any advice or suggestions regarding this Tek.


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Edited by Ice House Shaman (07/11/07 06:36 PM)

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill.................. [Re: Ice House Shaman]
    #7102794 -

Good work, its only a matter of time before you find the best method.

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill.................. [Re: Ice House Shaman]
    #7102801 -

You should have added some ammonia to help increase possible yields during the heating process.. Its worth a try.


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill.................. [Re: Acyl]
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I like that idea my problem is my lack of knowledge and experience in basic chemistry. I wouldnt know how much amonia to use. The stir/heating consisted of 250RPMs at + or - 110 deg F. I didnt want to turn the heat up too high because of flamability issues with the everclear.


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill.................. [Re: Ice House Shaman]
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Just grab a normal bottle you see at the store, google the brand name along with MSDS and you should be able to find the exact ammonia w/v percentage.

I think its usually 5 percent, Id start off with about 100-200 mls or so and reduce the ethanol a bit.. work with experience. Youve got no lab.

Also, dont be worried about heating alcohol... Im sure you could go a little higher with that set up youve got running there. Its too bad youve not got a reflux apparatus you could set up...


Id recommend heating your erlenmeyer flask in a water bath.. put it in a bigger beaker and fill that with water and heat the flask indirectly through the beaker.. If the alcohol decides to "pop" it will just fall into the water.


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill.................. [Re: Acyl]
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Thanks allot for the info I am keeping notes I will do that next time around. You are correct about the hot plate/stirrer, The temp settings go up to just under 900 Deg Fahrenheit. As fine as I grounded up the material I don't think its going to take that much effort to get all of the DMT out. Notice the color of the flask when it was first mixed and the last picture. The color change is amazing. There is allot of active ingredient in that.


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill.................. [Re: Ice House Shaman]
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Theres no doubt that there is plenty of active ingredient in that.. just know that its not necessarily true that as the solution becomes stronger in colour the alkaloid content increases just as rapidly.

You're working with plant material, theres plenty of organic matter in it.. a strong colour change usually indicates that the pigments from the plant have carried over into solution.


The 48 hour heating w/out a base probably didnt help avoid extracting plant matter.. Id suggest lowering the heating time significantly next time and just add ammonia (NaOH will work, but may not as well because of the low solubility in ethanol). Doing this will keep most of the extra crap out while keeping potency intact.


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill.................. [Re: Acyl]
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Once I separate the liquid from the rough organic matter and filter is there a simple way to reduce the level of tannins without reducing the amount of active ingredient?
My thought on this is high tannin content = nausea.


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill.................. [Re: Ice House Shaman]
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You could work out an acid base extraction.. yeah.

Youve not added base, so maybe washing with water then adding some organic solvent like naphtha to remove the tannins would do the trick.

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My thought on this is high tannin content = nausea.



True, mature plant material isnt always easily digested in humans.


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill.................. [Re: Ice House Shaman]
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Ice House Shaman said:
Once I separate the liquid from the rough organic matter and filter is there a simple way to reduce the level of tannins without reducing the amount of active ingredient?
My thought on this is high tannin content = nausea.


Allow the liquid to sit in a fridge and allow the solids to settle out. Than pour the liquid out.

My guess is when you evaporate out the everclear, you will be left with a solid material that will take up 2 or 3 00 capsules per dose. I've done the same thing except used vinegar to extract out the actives. A dose came out to 4 00 capsules.

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill.................. [Re: special_k]
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Quote:
My guess is when you evaporate out the everclear, you will be left with a solid material that will take up 2 or 3 00 capsules per dose. I've done the same thing except used vinegar to extract out the actives. A dose came out to 4 00 capsules.


Do you think my expectations of 10 doses is reasonable?


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill.................. [Re: Ice House Shaman]
    #7106780 -

You can skip the acidification step of the extraction.
There are verry little fats in mimosa hostilis
You could probably get around 10 grams from a kilo of bark, suspecting good yields.
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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill.................. [Re: Ice House Shaman]
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Sorry it took so long to continue this.... I took a short vacation.... So here we are. I took these two pieces of gear


Put them together with a piece of nylon for a filter...



Before and after filter...


Soooo... as you can see 150 ml of organic material gone. 250 ml of liquid.....
I'm pretty busy right now, but, I will get it into an evap dish later today. I will post pics and document the evap duration......

Enjoy!

Peace Out!


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Edited by Ice House Shaman (07/11/07 10:57 PM)

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill.................. [Re: Ice House Shaman]
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Ok here is the filtered solution in a pyrex baking dish. I'm expecting a couple of days evap time, or less in these high temps.


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Edited by Ice House Shaman (07/11/07 10:58 PM)

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: Ice House Shaman]
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It's been a while since I have updated this. It only took three days for the liquid to completely evaporate and what was left in the dish was a hard shiny residue. I thought it was going to be stick it was not. Sorry I don't have a picture. I easily ground up the residue. It was very brittle. I weighed it out and then loaded it up into gel caps.


as you can see the final product weighs 17.6 grams. I started with 80 grams I was planning on getting 10 doses out of it. Now I am thinking more like 5- 8 doses.
I have 21 and a half gel caps. This is not an exact science. Using my always reliable SWAG method of measuring out the right amount I am gonna go with 2 and a half gel caps the first time and adjust accordingly.
I will take the caps tonight in an outdoor setting I plan on taking two droppers of liquid Harmaline to potentiate.


I'll let you know how it goes....


Peace out....


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: Ice House Shaman]
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good luck, dude. hope everything works out for you :thumbup:

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: pirates]
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LOL


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: Ice House Shaman]
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I wish you are tripping well :peace:

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: Ice House Shaman]
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Did it work? Was it so great your only response was:

Ice House Shaman said:
LOL


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: beanndip]
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Well its almost 9:00AM Its just about time to get some shut eye.

That was a wild one.

I thought I would post a little info here on what I did and what happened. I consumed two full eye droppers of the 5x Harmaline Tincture (as I understood when I purchased it 1 full dropper was = to 250mg) I put one dropper full in a cup of green tea and sipped it slowly over 15 minutes. Next I prepared an identical cup of tea w/1 dropper of the 5x Harmaline Tincture. With the first sip of this cup I swallowed down 3 full gel caps of the Mimosa Xtract. I was feeling the effects of the Harmaline about half way through my second cup of tea , so, about 30 minutes after the first sip from the first cup. I should note here that I had fasted for about 12 hours prior to this adventure, with the exception of a bowl full of white rice I ate about 45 minutes before I began drinking the tea.
One Hour after the first sip both cups of tea were gone. At that point I had a very nice feeling of euphoria. It was a giddy feeling almost as you felt as a kid on Christmas day or the way you felt when you knew you were gonna get your first piece of ass. That feeling started to become more of a drunk feeling and I was experiencing visual distortion. Light trails and fog. I remember about one hour after finishing the second cup questioning myself as to whether I was feeling anything other than the MAOI. I was not and had not felt any nausea at all. I decided I needed a drink of water I grabbed the water bottle uncapped it and put it to my lips the next thing I realized I was traveling upward through the water bottle, I was floating in this viscous liquid space. There were light waves all around me, colorful light waves. The medium I was floating in had so many individual points of entry within the area I was in, as I was floating there were illuminated colorful geometric patterns that would zap into the world around me, and they would congratulate me.... No they would honor me. They were telling me how perfect I looked and felt. Every new point of colorful light that came into my surrounding acknowledged me. I believe there were millions a second flashing around me. I couldn't understand how U was keeping up. By the way the visuals did not change, eyes open or eyes closed. I kinda just got lost in it.

I am having a very difficult time getting this out.

I started drinking the tea at about 9PM. My best guess is the DMT started to kik in around 10:30PM. I did stand up and look at my watch at 1:44AM it was dark out but it wasn't. I could see a million stars out. All fo them were illuminating the ground below me, some of the stars illuminated a double helix ray of light that made sound. Other stars shone down and projected a geometrical pattern on the ground that seemed to vibrate or dance to its own beat. I wanted to walk and I tried. I was concerned about stepping on any of the light patterns on the ground.
It all was so beautiful and yet overwhelming. I was never afraid. I laid back down and drifted and drifted. one colorful scene melted into the next. I awoke to my wrist watch alarm at 6AM I was on Terra Firma again. At this moment I feel great. Refreshed.

Lessons learned?

I got very lucky. My SWAG method of selecting the correct dosage and spacing between doses worked perfect. I wouldn't of wanted to be any more gone than I was. The duration was just right

I believe the white rice may have helped me from getting nausea.
I had a totally awesome journey. Better than all the Shroom or LSD trips I have ever done combined.

I want to do it again very soon, I will.

I gotta crash for a while....

Peace,

IHS


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: Ice House Shaman]
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wow. Sounds awesome.

Congratulations on your journey. :smile:

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: toadstooly]
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where can you find that stuff in the medicine droppers

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: SWITCH]
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SWITCH said:
where can you find that stuff in the medicine droppers


Google it... Use Harmaline tincture as your search criteria.


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: Ice House Shaman]
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Yo thats sweet. Glad you had such an awesome experience.

I was watching this thread since you made it, and couldn't wait to see the results. Good job! :smile:

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: Infested]
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i really wanna try this.

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: z_x_x_z]
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I dont really know? Well I guess in thoery, the answer is yes. Youd have to smoke allot and I would imagine the smoke would be some horrible stuff. I considered doing a couple of huge lines of it, but I chickend out. I am glad I did it the way I did. That is my preferred method of doing DMT. 1-2 droppers of MAOI 3-4 caps of DMT and you have a 4-6 hour fully psychedelic wonderland. No neausea. Never did the prolonged fasting thing, just no alchohol, cheese, or yougurt the day before and the day after.


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: z_x_x_z]
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I find the Pharmahuasc in a Pill method to be a kinder more gentle means of visiting the otherside. I would reccomend it to anyone trying DMT for the first time.


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: Ice House Shaman]
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I've started my extraction using this method with some minor tweaks. instead of everclear I'm using 151 rum with a little vinegar, also Manuel stirring and a few water baths instead of a stirrer/hot plate. I used a vacuum filtration kit (which is the shit(Vacuum Filtration Kit) the 8th item down cheapest i could find)

Used 50g of MHRB powder and 375ml 151 Rum with a cap of vinegar, ended up with 350ml of liquid after 24 hours (I know I should have let it soak for at least 48 hours but to each there own)
Its now in a closet evaporating, sorry no pictures, I don't have a camera that works. but looks like Ice House's pictures.
BTW Ice House you should make this into a TEK.

I'll let you know how long it takes to evap.

Peace for Now

Edited by MycoKris (09/18/08 09:02 PM)

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: MycoKris]
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interesting method, thanks for bumping this old, but useful thread :smile:

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: chrisnh]
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well I took it out of the closet and put two fans on it this morning and its almost done just has a half o inch left.

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: MycoKris]
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After two days with fans.


The outer edge is still evaporating but the center is hard as a rock


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Edited by MycoKris (09/20/08 02:47 PM)

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: MycoKris]
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after it all evaporated i scraped and weighed it all out, came out to 19.2g out of 50g packed it into 00 capsules each weighing  about a Gram.



wont have a chance to try em out for awhile, but ill let y'all know how it goes.
btw these will be taken with a MAOI tincture


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Edited by MycoKris (09/21/08 03:29 AM)

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: MycoKris]
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Looks like you did everything OK. I would expect that you'll find allot of joy in those little caps. How many you plan on ingesting?



MycoKris said:
BTW Ice House you should make this into a TEK.



How does one go about making something into a TEK? I thought what I posted was a "Pharmahuasca in a Pill" TEK


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: Ice House Shaman]
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Good job man I like the approach...def changes my way of thinking on a DMT trip....might have to try

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: Odum]
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Try it you'll be glad you did.............


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: Odum]
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Well it is a TEK if ya look at it right, like I did. But from a glance it looks like a log.

edit: Oh and me and two of my friends are planning on taking two or three caps in a couple days.


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Edited by MycoKris (09/21/08 11:38 PM)

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: MycoKris]
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No i like it as is .....a TEK.
btw is it the fucking drugs im on or what but WHAT is in your sig/prof ICE HOUSE...?its kinda freeking me out

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: Odum]
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mycokris, any updates on this?

ice, how about you? try the extraction or journey again? anything different?

thanks :smile:

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: chrisnh]
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chrisnh said:
mycokris, any updates on this?

ice, how about you? try the extraction or journey again? anything different?

thanks :smile:


I have done the extraction again since the one that was the subject of this post. I'm set now for a year or so. I journey about once a month. This Tek works like a charm...... The level of the trip the visuals are just amazing. 4 caps leaves me fully psychedelic and speachless for about 3-4 hours. No side effects no nausea, little to no fasting.

What I like most about this Tek is how consistent each and every trip is. I used to brew my own aya brews, and consitancy in potency was always a problem.


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: Ice House Shaman]
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thanks for the tek Ice House! A few days ago I put 80g MHRB into 750ml everclear, the same brand you have in your pic, just with 75%alc instead

the final product looks exactly like your pic

great method btw :thumbup:

I have a couple questions:

can you smoke harmaline instead of using the tincture?

should i put harmaline extract in the capsule with the shiny chunks?

i'm planning on just trying one capsule for the first time, can i expect any noticable effects?

thanks again!


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: tektonic]
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tektonic said:
I have a couple questions:

can you smoke harmaline instead of using the tincture?

should i put harmaline extract in the capsule with the shiny chunks?

i'm planning on just trying one capsule for the first time, can i expect any noticable effects?

thanks again!



Glad it worked out 4 you. I dont have any experience smoking Harmaline so I cant answer that 100% sure so I wont guess. I keep my maoi seperate from my DMT so there is no confusion as to what contains what. I dont think you'll have much, if any, noticable effects off one capsule I would go two to start and you'll eventually need or want 3 or 4. Start light and work your way up. Take your first dose of maoi :30 min prior then the other half or your maoi with your dmt capsules.

Good luck and post a trip report.


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: tektonic]
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tektonic said:
thanks for the tek Ice House! A few days ago I put 80g MHRB into 750ml everclear, the same brand you have in your pic, just with 75%alc instead

the final product looks exactly like your pic

great method btw :thumbup:

I have a couple questions:

can you smoke harmaline instead of using the tincture?

should i put harmaline extract in the capsule with the shiny chunks?

i'm planning on just trying one capsule for the first time, can i expect any noticable effects?

thanks again!



Tektonic,

How many pills did you cap from the extraction? 

The reason I ask because Ice House got 20 and I got 40 and we both started with 80 grams.  Maybe I squeezed the mush too hard and got too much sediment.


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: joemolloy]
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I capped 12 from a 10g aya resin/harmaline mix blend 9:1

i still have a ton of aya resin, i pulled 31g of resin initially

i should be able to make 36-38 caps total w/o maoi

this is from page 1

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as you can see the final product weighs 17.6 grams. I started with 80 grams.....

....I have 21 and a half gel caps.


if your dry mix is hard and shiny you probly got the right stuff, but i'm completely guessing as i've never done this b4 either

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: Ice House Shaman]
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Im interested in doing this extraction, but have a couple problems.

1) I cant buy everclear.
2) I dont have a hot plate stirrer.

What can i sub for the ever clear and how can i do it without the hot plate?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: theappe]
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theappe said:
Im interested in doing this extraction, but have a couple problems.

1) I cant buy everclear.
2) I dont have a hot plate stirrer.

What can i sub for the ever clear and how can i do it without the hot plate?

Thanks in advance.




WoW, now this is a blast from the past.

OK, you cant buy everclear, you can use a 151 vodka.

You dont have a hotplate stirrer put it in a jar and shake the shit out of it as often as you can,  keep it in a warm place between shaking.

I havent done that tek in sooo long because there are better ways to pharma these days.

Hope that answers your question.

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: Ice House Shaman]
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Thanks for the response. Would Bacardi 151 work or does it have to be vodka?

Can you direct me towards these "better" methods? Thanks!!

Edited by theappe (06/29/10 09:50 PM)

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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: theappe]
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this is cool


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: Ice House Shaman]
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im very interested in your method of extraction, i to used alcohol for a crude extraction but was never able to test my residue as i had  no MAOI, what exactly is the MAOI you are planning on using? is it simply extracted essential oils from the syrian rue seeds? where can this be bought? i have difficulty obtaining any decent MAOI in my country so any help would be great, also our of curiosity is the dried residue a very flaky and dark red substance?


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill.................. [Re: dirtworshipper]
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dirtworshipper said:
You can skip the acidification step of the extraction.
There are verry little fats in mimosa hostilis
You could probably get around 10 grams from a kilo of bark, suspecting good yields.
:grin:



really?? thats awesome i need to get my hands on some of that!! im getting some yopo seeds in the mail soon im gonna make some changa i reckon!! :thumbup: i will still have to ad some lye to that yeah? with 300 seeds im thinking of going one step further and making crystals. any thoughts??


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Re: Pharmahuasca in a Pill...*New Pics* [Re: wal0013]
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wal0013 said:
im very interested in your method of extraction, i to used alcohol for a crude extraction but was never able to test my residue as i had  no MAOI, what exactly is the MAOI you are planning on using? is it simply extracted essential oils from the syrian rue seeds? where can this be bought? i have difficulty obtaining any decent MAOI in my country so any help would be great, also our of curiosity is the dried residue a very flaky and dark red substance?


There are a lot of different MAOI strategies available.  The two main plants are syrian rue and caapi.  Either one of them can be boiled into a tea.  Both taste like shit, but the caapi experience is generally prefered to the rue.  You can use google to find purified harmala alkaloids or you can learn how to extract them for yourself.  Experimenting with the harmalas is a rewarding activity and it can profoundly alter your DMT experience.


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Ice House Shaman said:
theappe said:
Im interested in doing this extraction, but have a couple problems.

1) I cant buy everclear.
2) I dont have a hot plate stirrer.

What can i sub for the ever clear and how can i do it without the hot plate?

Thanks in advance.




WoW, now this is a blast from the past.

OK, you cant buy everclear, you can use a 151 vodka.

You dont have a hotplate stirrer put it in a jar and shake the shit out of it as often as you can,  keep it in a warm place between shaking.

I havent done that tek in sooo long because there are better ways to pharma these days.

Hope that answers your question.

Good luck



This tek was my first real foray into the world of oral DMT.  I remember I took about six 00 capsules of Everclear MHRB powder with some rue and it was truly a mindblowing, life-changing experience.  I have since graduated to using other, purer forms of spice, but my trips are never as colorful as when I used the results of this tek.

The other fun alkaloids on MHRB really flavor the oral trip.  The only thing that sucks about this is that there is often a purge or some stomach discomfort that I never feel when using purer DMT extracts.  But I would never knock this tek or the experience that it will initiate - it's divine and full spectrum.  Ice House turned a lot people on to hyperspace with his "instruction manual" on how to blow your mind.  I'm still looking for the pieces of mine.


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Nice TEK Icehouse,  You said this methods outdated?  What are you using these days?  Also where's your favorite place to get your harmala tinctures?  FV?  If not could you shoot me a PM and let me know?  Thanks!


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mattritt said:
Nice TEK Icehouse,  You said this methods outdated?  What are you using these days?  Also where's your favorite place to get your harmala tinctures?  FV?  If not could you shoot me a PM and let me know?  Thanks!



Well, I guess the methods are not really outdated. This is a great tek for getting started. This method is a good teacher. The effects are great. The tek yeilds full spectrum effects.

The Tek I prefer these days is HERE

FV is where I would go to get my harmala tinctures if I was going to use them. FV has always done great by me.

A great Tek for extracting spice can be found right here on the Shroomery. The thread was done up by Nature Boy. The Tek is called STB. STB is simple and a great tek for a beginner. STB yeilds quality freebase spice that can be vaporized or taken orally.

If you find yourself ready to dive into the world of DMT, I recommend you go HERE

I have been a member and supporter of the Shroomery for many years. IMHO, if you want info on DMT HERE is where you need to go.

You can find me over THERE under the user name Ice House Shaman if you have any questions.


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I know, I've been a member for hellas!  Great site!!

So you just extract yours now?  Do you eat jungle with it or like full spectrum pulls?  Or do you just take straight spice?


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Acyl said:
Just grab a normal bottle you see at the store, google the brand name along with MSDS and you should be able to find the exact ammonia w/v percentage.

I think its usually 5 percent, Id start off with about 100-200 mls or so and reduce the ethanol a bit.. work with experience. Youve got no lab.

Also, dont be worried about heating alcohol... Im sure you could go a little higher with that set up youve got running there. Its too bad youve not got a reflux apparatus you could set up...


Id recommend heating your erlenmeyer flask in a water bath.. put it in a bigger beaker and fill that with water and heat the flask indirectly through the beaker.. If the alcohol decides to "pop" it will just fall into the water.


I've been studying this extraction tek as it seems straight forward and good for oral ingestion method over STB.
Can you please explain a little more your comments on using ammonia and reducing the everclear (ethanol), and also the idea of indirectly heating the flask (I assume you mean in a pot of water on a stove with a towel separating the flask from the bottom of the pot to avoid cracking)? If he has a heated magnetic stirrer plate then wouldn't it be better and much safer to use the stirrer hot plate?

Additionally, I would like to ask if using a buchner funnel with hand vaccum pump would be better than straining through a piece of material?

I am about to buy a stirrer hotplate and was thinking of getting a buchner funnel with 500ml flask and hand operated vaccum pump to try to get the best possible yeild? The tek seems to be unclear in the part in between the 48 hour stir/heat and the drying in the pyrex dish before chopping up and putting into caps. Would appreciate more info here.

I would appreciate any updated information on how to maximize this tek.
I will be using very finely ground MHRB powder (Brazilian - lovely pink color).

Also, is this tek likely to be as vomit inducing as say the "DMT Jello Shot" one, which I tried and spent the entire evening yakking - I have a strong stomach so was quite surprised at how nauseating this was even after the egg-white and gelatin clarification supposed to remove tannins. Some folks say that it was probably the rue, but I have a 5x harmaline tincture this time so hopefully I can avoid a gut wretching experience like before which ruined the entire trip.

Thanks for any and all info on helping make this tek complete and concise.

Also - I've seen that you have moved on to the "BLAB - The Big Leisurely A/B" tek.
For someone who is really only interested in oral use, am I better sticking to this tek or the BLAB?

Edited by Globespy (02/02/13 11:24 AM)

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I just wanted to pitch in that you can put more alcohol (I use Everclear, 190 proof grain alcohol) back in with your MHRB and get more extract which is almost the same potency. I got about half the weight of the first extraction and a slightly darker product but the potency was almost the same as the first pull. After that you can stick the MHRB in the freezer or toss it. If you save it you can make tea with it after enough extractions. I figure doing a third or fourth extraction you wouldn't get much for what you spend on the alcohol.

Also, if you want a more pure final product, you can let your MHRB muck settle to the bottom of the container and suction off the alcohol with a syringe. I feel like it makes a much more pure extract than filtering it through anything. Or filter it and then do what I said above if you are worried about losing what alcohol is still absorbed in the muck. Once you get it into another container you can do this over again if you notice any sediment until you end up with a dark but clear liquid that you can evaporate. I got about 33.7g extract from 100g bark so I figured each gram was equal to about 3g bark. 2.5g was enough for a strong experience that I could still function pretty decently on (walk around, keep a sober dialogue in my head, etc) and wasn't too confusing. 3g for a pretty intense experience that I usually had to lay down for and that could get a bit confusing if I didn't make a conscious effort to keep a grip on what was happening.)

I got 1050 grams of MHRB and have been experimenting alot with oral DMT doses in the last 6 months. The first 5 times (2 of which were failures due to incorrect MAOI use) I made a tea and drank it. Puked every time. I know this is supposed to be part of the process but I really didn't like it. I absolutely hated the taste of MHRB. So I started using this tek exclusively with nothing but amazing results and very little nausea.

I realize I'm bumping a thread that has only had 1 post in almost 3 and a half years. So sorry for that if it bothers anyone. I just want more people to know that there is an extremely easy, cheap, and effective way to orally dose dmt without as much nausea or having to drink a horrible tasting concoction. Thanks Ice House Shaman.

edit: On second thought perhaps I should've just made a seperate thread and linked to this one :/


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Edited by V1rusH0st (11/02/13 03:28 PM)

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Ice House Shaman said:
A great Tek for extracting spice can be found right here on the Shroomery. The thread was done up by Nature Boy. The Tek is called STB. STB is simple and a great tek for a beginner. STB yeilds quality freebase spice that can be vaporized or taken orally.


Are there any drawbacks to this less thorough method of extraction?


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Northerner said:
I agree psilocybin is smokable though.

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Da2ra said:
Ice House Shaman said:
A great Tek for extracting spice can be found right here on the Shroomery. The thread was done up by Nature Boy. The Tek is called STB. STB is simple and a great tek for a beginner. STB yeilds quality freebase spice that can be vaporized or taken orally.


Are there any drawbacks to this less thorough method of extraction?


You're still getting some of the tannins from the MHRB in the extract and I have thrown up once from taking it. I have a friend who has thrown up many times but he admitted he made himself do it because he got scared from the come up every time (he hadn't experienced DMT before, just recently he finally just kept it down and loved the experience.) Also, you are ingesting many of the alkaloids from the MHRB besides just DMT, the ones you would normally find in jungle spice. This can be seen as a pro or a con depending on what you are intending to achieve.


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