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Can anyone help me with plastic lids?
    #7095399 - 06/26/07 05:47 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Okay i bought some of those ball plastic lids... i went ahead and made 1 hole in each jar... i then added aquarium silicone to make a self healing innoc port(i used the silicone on the top and underside of the lid and put a pretty good amount... well, i let them sit and cure for a week now.. i also, bought some micropore tape and am ready to go but before i rush into it i wanna know am i good to go?

1. i am not sure if the aquarium silicone will work or do i need to use different stuff?
2. do i need the rubber gasket or need to add any tyvek or coffee disks?
3. can i just use them as i made them and put aluminum foil over the lids when i pc them?
4. if no to all three q's please explain... i dont wanna mess up.. thanks


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Re: Can anyone help me with plastic lids? [Re: tony8404]
    #7095619 - 06/26/07 06:32 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

hrm... wouldnt the silicone seal the lid all the way during pcing? which last i knew was bad. you want pressure to be able to escape the jar.. hence the putting metal lids on upside down or the tyvek filters..


id rip the silicone out get tyvek from the post office for free and just cover the hole with your tape after you inoculate..


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Re: Can anyone help me with plastic lids? [Re: criddopher]
    #7095732 - 06/26/07 06:52 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

1. i am not sure if the aquarium silicone will work or do i need to use different stuff?

The aquarium silicone will likely not survive pressure cooking temps or will simply lose its adhesion and fall off. I would recommend placing micropore tape over the hole you intend to inoculate with and add the silicone after you're done pressure cooking. The hole will be protected and you can always add the port later. The silicone will be placed right on top of the tape.

The aquarium silicone should work though, just not sure on the heat tolerance.

2. do i need the rubber gasket or need to add any tyvek or coffee disks?

No, the micropore tape will do the job it needs to for gas exchange.

3. can i just use them as i made them and put aluminum foil over the lids when i pc them?

Yes, with the exception of the injection port. I recommend adding this after you PC. Just put the tape over both holes, cover with foil, pressure cook, allow to cool, add your injection port with silicone, wait 12-14 hours to cure, inoculate.

4. if no to all three q's please explain... i dont wanna mess up.. thanks

Quit talking and start cultivating. :wink:


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Re: Can anyone help me with plastic lids? [Re: Wronguy]
    #7095785 - 06/26/07 07:05 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Replace the silicon with a vacutainer port and GO .



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Re: Can anyone help me with plastic lids? [Re: HippieChick]
    #7097960 - 06/27/07 10:06 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

where does one find a vacutainer port??? also, if i get some of that silicone that is high temp could i just redo the inocc ports with that and then i should be able to pc them right?


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Re: Can anyone help me with plastic lids? [Re: tony8404]
    #7097993 - 06/27/07 10:21 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

i usehigh temp rtv which you will find at any autoparts store it olds up to the abuse and heat of a gasoline engine it can certainly handle 90 minutes in a pc.


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Re: Can anyone help me with plastic lids? [Re: dirtracer24]
    #7098003 - 06/27/07 10:27 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

okay i am gonna go with the rtv silicone... i am gonna make a second hole in the lid for a gas exchange.. i wanna know if i place a piece of micropore tape over the gas exchange hole will i be able to pc them or do i have to place the micropore tape on after i pc them?
and will that be good enough or do i have to do anything else for the gas exchange hole?


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Re: Can anyone help me with plastic lids? [Re: tony8404]
    #7098192 - 06/27/07 11:36 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

i wanna know if i place a piece of micropore tape over the gas exchange hole will i be able to pc them or do i have to place the micropore tape on after i pc them?





you can put it on before you pc the jars.



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Re: Can anyone help me with plastic lids? [Re: Roadkill]
    #7098426 - 06/27/07 01:19 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

just to make sure let me run this past you guys and let me know if i am good to go or not..... i am going to remove the silicone i placed on my lids already... then i will sand them down top and bottom of lid for a rough surface, clean the lids ... then add the rtv silicone let dry for 24hrs... with the second hole i will place miropore tape on the top and bottom of the lid over the hole. am i good or is there more to do ?


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Re: Can anyone help me with plastic lids? [Re: tony8404]
    #7098607 - 06/27/07 02:21 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

That should be good:thumbup:

Oh , I order vacutainer lids on line , $20 for 100 delivered to my doorstep .

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Re: Can anyone help me with plastic lids? [Re: HippieChick]
    #7098728 - 06/27/07 02:55 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

HippieChick said:
Replace the silicon with a vacutainer port and GO .



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Whats on the opposite end of that vacutainer?  Ear plug?


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Re: Can anyone help me with plastic lids? [Re: Mycodood]
    #7098768 - 06/27/07 03:03 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Some hose from Autozone . Fill it with poly fil and it works as a vent .

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Re: Can anyone help me with plastic lids? [Re: tony8404]
    #7098806 - 06/27/07 03:12 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Ahh nice, Thank you!


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