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Birthed 5 days ago?!
    #7089088 - 06/24/07 10:41 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

aight well i just birthed some Cased Substrate on the 19th and its now the 24 almost 25 and i havent seen any change in from them in the fruiting chamber. humidy is at a constant 93-94% and the temp is around 77. i use the mono tub with holes and also fan 3 times a day or so.

EDIT!!!!:
I Bought a New FC!! in hopes it would help!! Heres the pics with the NEW setup! i took in everyones consideration and hope this one will work better. i used 1/4 in holes, and put about 150 in it. FC is off the floor for ventilation, and the lid is clear, and the FC is taller.
when i emptyed out the perlite from the old LC 95% of it was bone dry...mabey thats what the problem was.

New FC!

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Perlite Depth (4 inches of it.)

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I put Gorilla Tape around the edges of my Containers to keep from side pinning.

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One Cased Substrate (my 2 smaller ones are the same but just have more mycilium on top of them.

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Ambient light!

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All of them sitting happyiliy

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7090650 - 06/25/07 12:12 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

anyone....today i just bought another fruiting chamber....im an hour or so ill put some perlite (4 inches), i also drilled a total of about 200 1/4inch holes all over it. so FAE will be sufficient.

any other suggestions?

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7090716 - 06/25/07 12:28 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

4 things, light, temp drop, humidity, and PATIENCE, if u do all of them, it'll pin

you could cold shock it if you wanted.....but i suppose thats not all that reccomended for a casing.

make that 5, FAE of course, and i supose moisture delivery is pretty important too, damn make it 6.... i gotta quit drinkin before noon...good luck bro, i know you've read it but giving hypae's (sp?) pinning strategy another look could never hurt

Edited by seo82087 (06/25/07 12:31 PM)

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: seo82087]
    #7090730 - 06/25/07 12:31 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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4 things, light, temp drop, humidity, and PATIENCE, if u do all of them, it'll pin






and don't forget FAE...

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: Roadkill]
    #7091028 - 06/25/07 02:12 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Ok i just finished my NEW FC. i doubled the perlite to 4 inches, got a taller FC, 150 or so 1/4 inch holes. covered the sites of my containers up with gorilla tape to block light.

Hope these will work.

So Now i have LIGHT, should have sufficient humidity, plenty of holes for FAE, Temp is 75 give or take 2 or so Outside the Fruiting Chamber.

i decided not to cold shock.

Does anyone recommend that i mist these every couple days? or should the perlite keep is humid enough?

EDIT: 2 hours after i put the containers into the new Fc the humodity is reading 85%!??!?! it was higher in the old chamber lol...does perlite take time to start evaporating the water? I added another 1/2 inch of perlite cause i was tweaking lol.

Would my Casings grow better if perhaps i took them out of the tray and just put them on foil like a cake? ALSO the Gorilla Tape is putting a smell in the Chamber do you think its ok?

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7091473 - 06/25/07 04:32 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I have the same terrarium that you do and i always mist 2 times a day to replenish moisture to the cased subs and to the perlite.

And no i wouldnt fruit a cased sub as a cake you will get better results if you didnt.


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7091484 - 06/25/07 04:36 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

YAY A Reply :wink:....ok, Misting will be Easy Enough!

Also do you think the fumes from the gorilla tape will affect anything?

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7091490 - 06/25/07 04:37 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Naw it shouldnt have any effect i used it a couple times and nothing hapened.


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7091495 - 06/25/07 04:39 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

ive an unrelated newbie question...do growing mushrooms give off any noticable smell/odor?


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: ThePyschonaut52]
    #7091512 - 06/25/07 04:45 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

inside the FC i have noticed that there is a slight strong Mushy smell. outside of it though i cant smell anything.

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7092135 - 06/25/07 07:50 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Ok so the Containers have been in the the Chamber for about 6 hours and the constant humidity is reading 79% :*(

EDIT: I covered up about 50 holes on the sides (excluding top and bottom since the current moves through there) with Electrical Tape (non breathable) in hopes that the humidity will go back up.

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7092348 - 06/25/07 08:43 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

1 Hour after i Taped up about 50 holes.....the Humidity is now 74% WTF!?!?!?!?!??!
i added perlite, and covered some holes and its even LOWER!?!

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7092728 - 06/25/07 10:15 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Get a cheap humidifier some H2O2 and clear hose. I can't seem to get my humidity in a massive FC to go below 95%...If you don't wanna drop the $30.00 I would suggest misting all the time. What kind of hydrometer are you using?


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: HeyZeus]
    #7092742 - 06/25/07 10:18 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

After, looking at your pictures I noticed your light source. Some type of UV heat or reg. heat is needed to help evap water. Is there visible condensation?


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: HeyZeus]
    #7092751 - 06/25/07 10:20 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Ok some let me make sure you have everything right on.

1.holes on all six sides.(bottome,top,sides etc)
2.you have 4 inches of perlite that was soaked,the well drained.
3.have you calibrated your hygrometer?
4.The terrarium is lifted up for for the holes on the bottom to be exposed.


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: HeyZeus]
    #7092761 - 06/25/07 10:24 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

lol my lighting is from a window with the blinds mostly closed lol. the temp is about 75-77 all day.
I'm using a hygrometer from a cigar shop used for humidors like RR suggested. ( i set it to with the Salt/water in a bag)

MMMMM....i have seen many ideas for raising humidity. how to you regulate the humidifier so it does run all the time though.....somewhere i saw its bad to have it run all the time. because the water from the humidifier will build up.
is humidifier the best or is there other better ways of adding humidity?

Edited by phil823 (06/25/07 10:26 PM)

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7092779 - 06/25/07 10:28 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

All the Above is correct!

Holes on all 6! sides. and as seen in the picture its on a small stand raising it about 10 inches off the floor.

perlite wasnt soaked....i put it into a strainer thing and got it really wet and then made sure it was drained well. (just like RR did in his video)

Hygrometer caliberated with the Salt/water method


IDK im at a loss for words! i have the FC next to the Air conditioner vent...its like 2 feet away could that have anything to do with it.

Edited by phil823 (06/25/07 10:29 PM)

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7092781 - 06/25/07 10:28 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

You can have the coolmist or what have you on a timer.

Is your hygrometer analog?try wrapping it in a wet(damp) paper towel after 30 mins you should read 98%-99%.


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7092790 - 06/25/07 10:33 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Yes it analog ( you can see it in one of my pictures its just flipped upside down...)

im rapped it up just now to double check it.

if it comes to it i guess i will use a coolmist although i was hoping to stay away from electronics.

i have the FC next to the Air conditioner vent...its like 2 feet away could that have anything to do with it.

Edited by phil823 (06/25/07 10:36 PM)

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7092809 - 06/25/07 10:40 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Yea those analog ones have to be calibrated pretty frequently.i would move it kinda far away since any excessive air current will increase evaporation which could be the problem you are having.(not likely but could happen)


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: seo82087]
    #7092836 - 06/25/07 10:46 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

seo82087 said:
4 things, light, temp drop, humidity, and PATIENCE, if u do all of them, it'll pin

you could cold shock it if you wanted.....but i suppose thats not all that reccomended for a casing.

make that 5, FAE of course, and i supose moisture delivery is pretty important too, damn make it 6.... i gotta quit drinkin before noon...good luck bro, i know you've read it but giving hypae's (sp?) pinning strategy another look could never hurt




Cold shock is nonsense for cubes. Please, everyone, stop recommending it.

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: figgusfiddus]
    #7092886 - 06/25/07 11:02 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Ok i moved my FC a couple feet away....now its like 7 feet away so thats not a problem...

i tested my hygrometer and it appears it is off by 8%, so i recaliberated it...although that doesnt count for the 74%!! that means that instead of 74 it was actually 82% which isnt good iether



Do you think Dunking my Casings would help initiate pinning (although before i put the tape of the sides of my containers there was visible moisture on the sides of the containers.

I just dont know whats up....i followed directions to the point....i just hope the casings dont sit there so long they get overlay for because they didnt pin.

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7092942 - 06/25/07 11:18 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Even the smallest cool mist will change humidity a lot.  Cool mist also leaves that stand still water you speak of.  I would dry the perlite a bit.  That can be used as a sponge to absorb that water.  Get a timer for the cool mist if thats the humidifier you choose.  There is a lot of information here about humidifiers.  I would go with an Ultrasonic instead.  It has way less visible moitsure and won't leave as much on the bottom.  The good thing about these is that it is fully automated.  Plus air flow is good.  Not to exepensive.  And if you wanna add more chambers...:grin: Hmm... that gets you thinkin a bit... more chambers = more mushrooms lol! good luck


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7093079 - 06/25/07 11:52 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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Ok i moved my FC a couple feet away....now its like 7 feet away so thats not a problem...

i tested my hygrometer and it appears it is off by 8%, so i recaliberated it...although that doesnt count for the 74%!! that means that instead of 74 it was actually 82% which isnt good iether



Do you think Dunking my Casings would help initiate pinning (although before i put the tape of the sides of my containers there was visible moisture on the sides of the containers.

I just dont know whats up....i followed directions to the point....i just hope the casings dont sit there so long they get overlay for because they didnt pin.





something doesnt sound right reason being is that a cased sub provides humidity.and so does the perlite if there is 4-5 inches of it.either way both provide humidity and should have 100%.hmmmmm i am thinking


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: HeyZeus]
    #7093084 - 06/25/07 11:53 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

mmm aight ill guess ill look into it....more money... lol :frown:

Please keep thinking lol...im stumped too lol


AIGHT!....the NOW Caliberated hygromiter is reading 94% after 1 hour of being in there...idk if this will change but i guess its better...was hoping for like 98 or 99 though..... i guess i could cover more holes....

idk im going to bed....this has been very frustrating lol and sleep is eeded now cause i have to be up in 5 hours lol

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7093120 - 06/26/07 12:02 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

hhahha great..good stuff..get a digital when you get the chance. cost like 5 bucks at walmart


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7093131 - 06/26/07 12:05 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

naw dont cover the holes.make sure you mist 2 times a day,mist the walls the casing layer,the cakes etc etc.that will help to keep the moisture up and you should be gravy.I never liked the analog ones they give off errors like you wouldnt believe even with my cigars at 70%.i Bought an expensive 60$ hygrometer with a 0.5-1% error rate at high humidity(excess of 90%)and never have had problems and i test it monthly .Might be something you might want to look into later on.



Oh and i know rr is going to come in here saying that analog is the best and to use those but technology is pretty good now a days and they have improved hygrometers over the past 5 years or so.


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7093146 - 06/26/07 12:09 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Digital hygrometers, at least the affordable kind, still fuck up when they get wet. And by "fuck up", I do mean "die".


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    #7093196 - 06/26/07 12:19 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

lol..true thats why i spent so much on mine.I bought mine from a cigar store that my family has gone to for years.I have tested it multiple times and it works very well but also it was a pretty size chunk of change being 60 bucks before tax.now those 10-30 dollars ones yea most of em are cheap plastic crap that isnt worth it.


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7093309 - 06/26/07 12:55 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

nice to know; yeah the temperature gauge on mine doesn't work anymore cause it got fucked up. I thought the humidity was messed up to until I took it out and matched it with another. Plus I know gen. humidity range of my house.


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: HeyZeus]
    #7094406 - 06/26/07 11:21 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

After letting ti sit over night with about 50 holes covered. the humidty is now reading 100%! YAY!!... ill just have to make sure that 2 times a day i fan for a little extra FAE and spray at that time for some extra humidity.

Now my only problem will be Light lol...since i moved it away from the Ac vent, i have moved it away from the window....Temp is staying a constant 77 inside the FC which is good...

Will the fumes from the gorilla tape affect the shrooms or FAE anyway? everytime i open to give it FAE, i get a strong smell of gorilla tape lol.

Next grow i have aluminum cooking tubs, which will be better.

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7094767 - 06/26/07 01:09 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I think if you can hit 95%, the FAE is going to be more valuable than the last 5% RH.

The fumes shouldn't hurt it a bit. You really need to work on some passive FAE setup, though, like polyfill and a fan.


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: figgusfiddus]
    #7095557 - 06/26/07 04:20 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Ok slowly over the coarse of the night i will be removing the tape...a couple pieces at a time, till i can get it to stay at 95%.

What other FAE setup should i use lol....besides fannning 2 times a day. its a monotub so i shouldnt have to do much FAE just a little boost every once and a while.

Also i thought RR said polyfill wasnt needed in FC's because mycelium has already gotten a hold by that point and can fight of stuff. also the moving air keep bacteria from manifesting.

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7095604 - 06/26/07 04:29 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

with this terrarium you dont need anything such of silly polyfil.All you have to do is fan and mist 2 time a day.


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7095960 - 06/26/07 05:50 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

great thats what i wanted to hear!

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7096285 - 06/26/07 07:07 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

WTF LOL.... earlyer when i had 100% i took off like 15 pieces of tape and now the humidity is 90% lol WTF... lol i guess ill put them back on lol

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7096307 - 06/26/07 07:12 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

add more perlite next time like an inch to an inch and a half more.also it shouldnt be that big of a problem since you are going to mist and fan 2 times a day.


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7097176 - 06/26/07 11:31 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

aight sounds good to me...next time i guess i might as well just fill the FC 1/2 way full lol....that will solve my problem. mmmm i need to buy a spray bottle tomarrow lol....

I put a couple pieced of tape back on...and the humidy shot up to 94 or so....so i guess thats good....i just hope they will fruit soon!
Yes i know patcience is a virtue lol but i put these in the original chamber on the 19th and now its the 27th lol...thats over a week lol...although i do understand that they will need time to recover from all the moving and such. my next set of jars are almost full done colonizing and will be ready as soon as this grow finishes....

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7097190 - 06/26/07 11:36 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

As my grandmother used to say: We cross that bridge when we come to it.

In the meantime, you may want to do some sightseeing in ShroomCity.

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: RadelBaluvar]
    #7098969 - 06/27/07 01:58 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Yes...ive seen all of the before :wink:

Today i bought a Grow Light which is florecent and puts out 75 watts.... it happened to be the cheapest so it was cool. i also got an industrial sprayer :smile:....hopefully ill be good now!

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7099586 - 06/27/07 04:26 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Picture says 1k words!


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7099632 - 06/27/07 04:43 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

oh something that might help ya is see how all your stuff is resting on the perlite.well if you put chicken wire over it and then zip tie it off the perlite you will have more surface area on the perlite which will increase the humidity.thats what i ended up doing i will post a pic when i get time.But dont laugh! i have pink and yellow and red zip ties lol only ones i could find lol.


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7099667 - 06/27/07 04:57 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

lol aight...Zip tie what to were lol

ATM my humidty is 99% and i took all the tape off the top and about 1/4 from the sides...so i think im doing good. i mist/fan 2x a day... :smile: and the light is on a timer for 9 hours a day.

so i should be good now...just waiting for pins lol

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7099674 - 06/27/07 05:00 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

nice good to hear man.oh and the zip ties i just made more holes and put the zip tie around the and through the hole.to hold the chicken wire i will show you lol.


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7099692 - 06/27/07 05:04 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

OH i get what you mean lol.... you zip tied the chicken wire HANGING over the perlite and put the containers of chicken wire to make the surface space from under where the containers used to sit. :wink:

Edited by phil823 (06/27/07 05:05 PM)

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7099937 - 06/27/07 06:08 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

here is some pics of my rr style tub.







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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7101154 - 06/27/07 10:03 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

lool i just checked my FC and Humidty was down to 90 lol so i misted again and BAM its 100!............. so i cover a couple holes back up....

IDK....you have more holes in yours than me. though you have high humidity all the time! :frown:

Whats with the HUGE Polygone Cake....was is a Bulk container you just flipped out and put in there?

It looks like your FC is small than mine...or those are HUGE containers.

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7103724 - 06/28/07 02:38 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

lol fc is about 100 quarts or so the big cake thing is a manure/compost mix that i didnt have enough casing material for so i decided to flip it and fruit like a cake lol.the other is the same just a normal cased sub though.i mist pretty frequently since my casing layer likes to dry out so i mist 3 times a day maybe thats my trick lol i dunno.4-5 inches of erlite in mine has been getting 95% minimum for about 3 weeks.


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7105667 - 06/28/07 11:48 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

i put these cakes into the FC on the 24th and its now the 29th!

thats 5 days, although on the 25 i took the cakes out to put more perlite in...shouldnt i see SOMETHING after 5 days....humidity has been 100 with 3 mists/fan a day. and i have a Grow light set on it for 9 hours a day (the grow light turns on and off lol by iteself, like on 5 min and off 1 min lol or something wierd like that). WHATS GOING ON! SHOULDNT I SEE SOMETHING!?

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7105716 - 06/29/07 12:11 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

it can take as long as 14 days to see primordia or pins.I would start to worry after 14 days.More than likely the humidity wasn't in the best nor was the Fae for the first few days and could lead to a delay.I starting fruiting mine almost 2 weeks ago and now am getting pins.genetics also play a pretty big role.


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7105888 - 06/29/07 12:49 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I swear cakes made with Ralph's B+ will fruit even if you douse them with gas, light 'em on fire, roll them around in baking soda, crush them up and sprinkle them on your radiator. I have seen and heard less forgiving results from other strains, though never side-by-side.

Maybe that's just my experience. :smile: Anyway, FAE is going to matter more in the triggering of pins than the difference between 90% and 100% RH. The RH at pinning will help determine size of fruits, though.


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: figgusfiddus]
    #7107999 - 06/29/07 04:22 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Ralph's b+ i see....mabey i should get a print....does "Ralph" sell them =)

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7108211 - 06/29/07 05:27 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Ralphster's Spores

Enjoy. I don't know that it's actually unique in this regard from other B+ strains, but I do know I've had great luck with it. Not the most amazing pinsets you've ever seen from any strain, but definitely the heartiest mycelium and the most willing to pin under imperfect conditions.


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7108645 - 06/29/07 08:46 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

You gotta keep us updated on that large ass cake. lol


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: fish42]
    #7108656 - 06/29/07 08:49 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

lol i will post pics it is taking it's sweeeet ass time to pin though hehe.


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    #7109053 - 06/29/07 10:05 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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oh something that might help ya is see how all your stuff is resting on the perlite.well if you put chicken wire over it and then zip tie it off the perlite you will have more surface area on the perlite which will increase the humidity.thats what i ended up doing i will post a pic when i get time.But dont laugh! i have pink and yellow and red zip ties lol only ones i could find lol.




i think your the only other person that i've seen do this. i cut up the bottom of some water bottles and made little stands out of them...


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7111838 - 06/30/07 04:21 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I just got off work and to my surprise MY FIRST 2 PRIMORDIA.....But I went to buy some new shoes and once I got home my parents where home and they threw all my casings away!! FUCKING SHIT!!!...

This is the day I will never forgive her, this is the day she took away my truly love hobby and why I wake up in the morning, this is the day she chose the government over True personal freedom. These are the times when people fear the government, when it should be the other way around and the government should fear the people.
I’m not pissed off about her making me throw away my casings, it’s that I did So much research and took the effort to make things perfect and then it was crushed. It’s like researching to build your dream home and you being ½ way done and someone saying you can do that and takes it all way. Without paying or anything.
What really gets me is that she chose government over ones personal freedom; she chose to live a life of conformity. She showed how complete and total control by the government is getting into people. She will not fight for a just cause, she says she believes in. She will quiver in fear and fall back to her knees in the process of government which does everything but help to reinsure complete freedom, and hold our rights. I see the one step she took as a step towards complete government control. She quivered, at laws created by people who crave money and who take away freedoms which are god given rights, only to replace them with a sense of freedom, to make us happy with what they say we can have. Capitalistic basterds.
Our Government is corrupt and this event today has proven to me that everything the government says should be taken as false. They tell people lies, they corrupt only to gain monetary value, which is also only society conformity.
My life has forever changed by mushrooms although I’ve never had them and never got the chance to grow mine all the way. They have talked to me; they touched me they managed to change my life forever. I will never think the same about my parents, who say they don’t like the government and yet conform. Nor about the news, or anything government related.
My life is now like the matrix. I was in a world of hiding, a place for your mind, a place to conform and follow all of society’s norms, so you can fit into a life which they deem desirable. A norm which can only be achieved over a small period of time called life, after which these norms mean nothing. These norms in which everyone works so hard to acquire, which is supposedly made up by the people, are not even deemed correct by a majority of the population. I am now set free, I see the light people talk about now and in the 50's and 60's. I will fight from here on in. I’m no longer neutral and kept stupid by fear, I WILL strive to be a raging prohibitionist. I will fight for the just cause to live free with what god has given us, and will never EVER live the life of a puppet again.
Life’s short, don’t waste it trying to conform to the rules of a society that does not matter in the end. The average life expectancy of an American is 73. Out of the millions of year the earth has been here, he stays only 73. If you live true to yourself, and live free in the end, when you’re on your deathbed, you will realize you lived just the way you wanted and won’t think, what if I did this or that? You will have lived through exactly what you wanted to. And from that point, your own personal religion affairs will happen. Whether its heaven where you will be places by deeds throughout your life. Or possibly Buddhism where you are measured and if you lived full, and completely you will be reborn. Or any other religion for that matter. You will see that anything that happens after death does not include the basic rules of society you must endure for this short span.
That’s all I have to say at this moment. With that being said I will NEVER stop growing shrooms but rather I just need to change my ways. I will now be growing invitro; any links anyone has for good info is much appreciated.

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7112093 - 06/30/07 05:39 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

thats great! ive got some only 2 days in the FC. first grow here. waiting on pins. Good to here us newbies can make things work. love to see your pics....will check back in


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: surfsimon]
    #7112192 - 06/30/07 06:14 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Read the post above i edited!

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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: phil823]
    #7112389 - 06/30/07 07:14 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

DONT grow in you parents house? wait till you move out and have a apartment.


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    #7112415 - 06/30/07 07:23 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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DONT grow in you parents house? wait till you move out and have a apartment.




You're exposing your parents to a legal risk they should not have to endure without their knowledge and consent. More than appropriate to throw them away.

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    #7113394 - 07/01/07 12:03 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Ehh. Hmm.

Hey, I don't blame you for trying to grow in your room, but you can't blame them for throwing it out either. "The only crime is getting caught," as they say. Sorry, fella. Try again in a few years!


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Re: Birthed 5 days ago?! [Re: figgusfiddus]
    #7115440 - 07/01/07 03:59 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

That blows. Sorry about the bad news. I've been there. In essence everybody conforms to something in some sort of way. Your parents might disagree with laws and fight them, but losing a house or your freedom you speak of is a very large thing to gamble. I don't blame them and had the same thing happen to me. Everything seems ok until someone gets in trouble and has to pay the price. Doing time is not easy, and certainly not worth mushrooms. I don't recommend growing mushrooms in a country where the law prohibits it.


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