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PES Hawaiian grow medium?
    #7088025 - 06/24/07 05:08 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

While searching the forum ive come across many conflicting posts regarding PESH and potency. the general message seems to be that potency is highly dependant on the cake composition, yet i never ran across what to use(everyone just says not brf/verm cakes).

Could someone help me with that to use, and also, any new opinions on PES hawaiian potency also appriciated.


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Re: PES Hawaiian grow medium? [Re: Lotek]
    #7088078 - 06/24/07 05:23 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

<---PES Hawaiian grown on BRF/Vermiculite

Many tell me that the Hawaiians are a weak strain of Cubensis, but mine were above average in terms of potency. Of course, I ate them straight off the cakes as opposed to other cubes I've eaten that could've been months old.


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Re: PES Hawaiian grow medium? [Re: iBruiseBlue]
    #7088194 - 06/24/07 05:59 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

potency is based on genetics when doing multispore there are hundreds of sub strains that might fruit or might not,might have good potency might not it's a roll of the dice with multispore.all cubes with isolated strains will have good potency/fruiting potential.(if done correctly)


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Re: PES Hawaiian grow medium? [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7088234 - 06/24/07 06:17 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

IMO potency is determined on how they are grown, medium, etc. Most strains are the same. They are all cubensis. Like xaxphaanes said, isolation is key.


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Re: PES Hawaiian grow medium? [Re: Jrsxt]
    #7088259 - 06/24/07 06:28 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

potency isn't based on what they grow on for example (i have done allot of tests on this subject)lets say i have a cased horse manure,cased cow manure,cased rye,cased wbs,and cased straw.now wbs and rye and cow manure have a crap load of nutes allot more than hpoo would i did 4 cased subs in equal amounts each (hpoo 4 tubs,cow poo 4 tubs etc etc) and i found that my friends and i could not find a difference at all this test was done with isolated strains since multispore is erratic since you could get allot of sub-strains.i continued to do this for a few months doing blind tests with my self and friends in the same environment and even eating the same meals (kinda to make sure that we would get a kinda accurate reading)and couldn't tell a diff.oh you might want to look out for a grow log by me in the next month or so i am going to compare brf/pf tek(cased) to horse manure (cased)in the same dry amount/water amounts and see what yields more.


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Re: PES Hawaiian grow medium? [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7088286 - 06/24/07 06:39 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

alright thanks for the help. would there be a better seed mix or somethign else to use, or should i just stick with the old pf?

ive looked into using agar to isolate the spores, but since this is my first grow ill put that stuff on the back burner.


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Re: PES Hawaiian grow medium? [Re: Lotek]
    #7088296 - 06/24/07 06:42 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

i would move to wbs or rye since the colonization time is almost cut in half and much much more inoculation points


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Re: PES Hawaiian grow medium? [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7088315 - 06/24/07 06:48 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Grain is definitely the way to go!


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Re: PES Hawaiian grow medium? [Re: Jrsxt]
    #7088456 - 06/24/07 07:25 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Thank you much =]


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