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Lotek

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PES Hawaiian grow medium?
#7088025 - 06/24/07 05:08 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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While searching the forum ive come across many conflicting posts regarding PESH and potency. the general message seems to be that potency is highly dependant on the cake composition, yet i never ran across what to use(everyone just says not brf/verm cakes).
Could someone help me with that to use, and also, any new opinions on PES hawaiian potency also appriciated.
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iBruiseBlue
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Re: PES Hawaiian grow medium? [Re: Lotek]
#7088078 - 06/24/07 05:23 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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<---PES Hawaiian grown on BRF/Vermiculite
Many tell me that the Hawaiians are a weak strain of Cubensis, but mine were above average in terms of potency. Of course, I ate them straight off the cakes as opposed to other cubes I've eaten that could've been months old.
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xaxphaanes
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Re: PES Hawaiian grow medium? [Re: iBruiseBlue]
#7088194 - 06/24/07 05:59 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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potency is based on genetics when doing multispore there are hundreds of sub strains that might fruit or might not,might have good potency might not it's a roll of the dice with multispore.all cubes with isolated strains will have good potency/fruiting potential.(if done correctly)
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Jrsxt
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Re: PES Hawaiian grow medium? [Re: xaxphaanes]
#7088234 - 06/24/07 06:17 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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IMO potency is determined on how they are grown, medium, etc. Most strains are the same. They are all cubensis. Like xaxphaanes said, isolation is key.
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xaxphaanes
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Re: PES Hawaiian grow medium? [Re: Jrsxt]
#7088259 - 06/24/07 06:28 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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potency isn't based on what they grow on for example (i have done allot of tests on this subject)lets say i have a cased horse manure,cased cow manure,cased rye,cased wbs,and cased straw.now wbs and rye and cow manure have a crap load of nutes allot more than hpoo would i did 4 cased subs in equal amounts each (hpoo 4 tubs,cow poo 4 tubs etc etc) and i found that my friends and i could not find a difference at all this test was done with isolated strains since multispore is erratic since you could get allot of sub-strains.i continued to do this for a few months doing blind tests with my self and friends in the same environment and even eating the same meals (kinda to make sure that we would get a kinda accurate reading)and couldn't tell a diff.oh you might want to look out for a grow log by me in the next month or so i am going to compare brf/pf tek(cased) to horse manure (cased)in the same dry amount/water amounts and see what yields more.
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Lotek

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Re: PES Hawaiian grow medium? [Re: xaxphaanes]
#7088286 - 06/24/07 06:39 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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alright thanks for the help. would there be a better seed mix or somethign else to use, or should i just stick with the old pf?
ive looked into using agar to isolate the spores, but since this is my first grow ill put that stuff on the back burner.
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xaxphaanes
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Re: PES Hawaiian grow medium? [Re: Lotek]
#7088296 - 06/24/07 06:42 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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i would move to wbs or rye since the colonization time is almost cut in half and much much more inoculation points
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Jrsxt
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Re: PES Hawaiian grow medium? [Re: xaxphaanes]
#7088315 - 06/24/07 06:48 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Grain is definitely the way to go!
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Lotek

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Re: PES Hawaiian grow medium? [Re: Jrsxt]
#7088456 - 06/24/07 07:25 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thank you much =]
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