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Re: I hate the ignorant Bush bashers!! [Re: spacelord]
    #7077463 - 06/21/07 09:36 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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monetary matters are essential to us.

You'd be better off doing some volantary conservation work than dreaming of starting a nature party!!...




I think monetary matters are essential to our 'state' not us. I don't know about you but I can farm some food to keep me goin and trade it for whatever necessity catches my needs.

Now of course, this internet might not be here... but man what's a planet that's trees and wildlife are being stripped away for the sake of building a "dream fucking home". If everyone adheres to this silly standard of living then hey maybe a major extinction is called for?? Call me crazy, but I know I'm the only one who thinks like this.

We've, to an extent, conquered diseases, which do .. umm OH YEAH KEEP BALANCE!! DING DING DING, HEY BALANCE IS THE SECRET WORD!!

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Re: I hate the ignorant Bush bashers!! [Re: Twister]
    #7077474 - 06/21/07 09:38 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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We can't think like an inanimate object. 

Just like every other species we will go extinct sooner or later.  I could care less when it happens, but I know it will.  With the rate of population increase it will likely be sooner rather than later, as we've already artificially increased the carrying capacity of Earth to completely unsustainable levels.  A population crash is inevitable. 100000 years(miniscule with regards to geologic time) after this crash our impact on Earth will be hardly noticable.




:smile:  i've yet to come across someone who comes to accept this.    I just preach harmony.  I just worked up about it sometimes.


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Re: I hate the ignorant Bush bashers!! [Re: Twister]
    #7077499 - 06/21/07 09:43 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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doing conservation work, and keeping a nature friendly lifestyle is really all we can do nowadays to help with the earth. its pretty screwed and how humans are, most of them wont care if its bad for the earth if it saves them money, so just do as much as you can as an individual to help out.




Earth doesn't need your help, or anyone else's.




I wouldn't mind keepin' those money grubbin timber companies away.

There's alternative ways that would be better and more efficient, like growing bamboo, which takes 2 months to reach a height of 7', grows anywhere. Just need to generate the interest and make this happen.



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Re: I hate the ignorant Bush bashers!! [Re: Leanin]
    #7077619 - 06/21/07 10:15 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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most the people that say this no nothing about anything. the president cant do much on his own.

bitching about gas prices? well bush wanted to drill in alaska and open up rigs in the gulf....but democrats voted it down.....and guess what? ITS BUSH'S FAULT GAS PRICES ARE HIGH NOW.




No your wrong, Drilling in Alaska wouldnt dent gas prices 2 cents, gas is a supply and demand based industry, haha Oil rigs in the gulf? take a look south of new orleans with google earth and see how many oil rigs their are.

Because Bush sideshowed Iraq, a nation that produces millions of barrels of oil a day have its oil delivery capacity cut to shit, it affects the world market, You think Iraqi's that we "liberated" have cheap gas? Gas is so expensive their that thieving oil and refining it yourself has become a mini-economy that finances the very people fighting our troops.

How can I trust a president, the republican party, the democrats, and the entire justice system when its so completely inept and filled with beauracratic pencil pushers who never solve real problems.

America will reap the 8 years that Bush has sewn, mark my words.
Thats reason enough to have a bunch of prole's hate him, im glad to see more ignorant and blind people dislike him, because so far ignorant and blind people put him in office for 4 more years, the same idiots who hate him now.

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Re: I hate the ignorant Bush bashers!! [Re: Cracka_X]
    #7077636 - 06/21/07 10:21 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

You preach harmony, yet have no idea what you're talking about. Every time I come into the pub I feel like I'm teaching some "special" kids.

I'm out.

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Re: I hate the ignorant Bush bashers!! [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #7077642 - 06/21/07 10:23 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

the ignorant and blind people who dislike him won;t vote in 2008, so it's not like what they think actually matters.

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Re: I hate the ignorant Bush bashers!! [Re: Twister]
    #7077679 - 06/21/07 10:33 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

If you can't do the math then get out of the equation


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Re: I hate the ignorant Bush bashers!! [Re: Redstorm]
    #7077683 - 06/21/07 10:34 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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the ignorant and blind people who dislike him won;t vote in 2008, so it's not like what they think actually matters.




yea, excuse my fatalism.

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Re: I hate the ignorant Bush bashers!! [Re: spacelord]
    #7077832 - 06/21/07 11:14 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Hating anyone because it's cool to do is simply stupid. Sadly, not everyone who has an opinion has sense enough to validate that opinion on their own.

Ultimately, noone here or much of anywhere has a view of the whole picture. There's simply too much going on. You just have what's important to you and wht you think will impact your own life and community.

Personaly, I would like a better foreign affair policy and a higher GDP without inflation. Lower unmployment and fewer well-fare dependant citizens. And I want all of these things without giving up any personal freedoms. If Bush can't improve on any of these issues then yeah, Fuck Bush!

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Re: I hate the ignorant Bush bashers!! [Re: Cracka_X]
    #7077889 - 06/21/07 11:31 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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If you can't do the math then get out of the equation




The short bus is calling.

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Re: I hate the ignorant Bush bashers!! [Re: Twister]
    #7077896 - 06/21/07 11:35 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

The "Hey I can't convey my thoughts clearly enough so I'm gonna walk away" bus is calling.


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Re: I hate the ignorant Bush bashers!! [Re: spacelord]
    #7077925 - 06/21/07 11:46 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

While I agree with parts of your first post, but overall what say is unintelligent, hypocritical, and mostly lame.

Of all the dumb shits on this site, I believe you put the icing on the fucking cake.

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Re: I hate the ignorant Bush bashers!! [Re: Cracka_X]
    #7077959 - 06/21/07 11:56 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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I wouldn't mind keepin' those money grubbin timber companies away.

There's alternative ways that would be better and more efficient, like growing bamboo, which takes 2 months to reach a height of 7', grows anywhere. Just need to generate the interest and make this happen.






So you'd rather have money grubbing bamboo companies.

And what would growing bamboo solve? In actuality it would be worse. The nutrient stores in the soil would be depleted at an accelerated rate and soon you'd have land unsuitable for most plant growth(especially commercial) without fertilization, which requires, you guessed it, large inputs of fossil fuels.

It would also be an ecological disaster because it would be a monoculture just like farm fields, which are biological wastelands. Timber harvest occurs in a most areas usually every 50-100 years. In that time clear cuts can return to nearly "natural" conditions. It would likely still largely be a canopy monoculture, but the forest floor will exhibit increased species diversity. Iincreased habitat diversity and sturcture makes these areas capable of supporting an increased number of species.

If you harvested once a year you would have an ecological breakdown. Even in monoculture timber plantations in the south that are only harvested every 35 -50 years or so, and are extinsively managed, you see very little biological diversity. Sure, clear cuts of large tracts of forest aren't pretty, but they more closely resemble natural disturbances regimes than does any system of intensive agriculture.

So, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Read an ecology book and get back to me.

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Re: I hate the ignorant Bush bashers!! [Re: spacelord]
    #7078006 - 06/22/07 12:09 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I personally don't like bush that much either. And it is very annoying how all of these people hate him just because its cool to hate him. I don't like him, but I honestly rather have him then the others who ran for president at the time. Just like that south park episode...where the candidates for the school mascot was a giant douche and a turd sandwich. Satire at its best.


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Re: I hate the ignorant Bush bashers!! [Re: aDoS]
    #7078067 - 06/22/07 12:25 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I would really like to meet one person that hates Bush simply because its cool. Everyone has their reason even if its as simple as "We shouldn't be in Iraq" with no other justification.

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Re: I hate the ignorant Bush bashers!! [Re: Twister]
    #7078072 - 06/22/07 12:26 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

:yesnod: I love the threads devoted to how much the hate others that hate others. :lol:

This thread is a joke.

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Re: I hate the ignorant Bush bashers!! [Re: daytripper05]
    #7078080 - 06/22/07 12:30 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah it is, but so is nearly all of the Pub. I don't know why I even leave OTD.

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Re: I hate the ignorant Bush bashers!! [Re: Twister]
    #7078172 - 06/22/07 01:09 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

:smile:

First off, bamboo is already being used.  There's companies using bamboo for paper instead of trees.  Who knows maybe we can use bamboo as a substitute for all the cardboard boxes we seem to use, drywall, and whatnot..

Second, planting bamboo, we could utilize the land that we've already clear cut, spend less money maintaining, and crop probably exponentially more than with trees.  In turn, this would be very cost-effective.

I don't know what you think is so natural about clear cutting.  It's not a forest fire.  Have you ever heard of the landslides in Oregon due to clear cutting on the mountains?  More diversity?  YOU FUCKING DESTROY A COMMUNITY WITHIN AN ECOSYSTEM!  These trees are planted in a straight fucking line and what, we get rid of the brush to inhibit a flash fire?  sure if we have this investment we need to 'control' it.  With bamboo, we'd be in and out with our crop in no time.  utilize different parts of the land. let land rest and lay fallow.  bamboo is the way to go.  The chinese got by on it, why can't we make use of it? seriously.

--As for fertilizer, from my knowledge, we get a lot of our fertilizer from sanitation centers from where? that's right, your fecal output! And cows, i still don't understand your fossil fuel fertilizer argument.

Fossil fuels... well, my friend, we can only get so smart about how we use our fuel, whether it's for our bodies or machinery.  I propose abolishing widespread medicine and Voting YES for Natural Selection.  Might as well stop beating around the bush and delaying the inevitable.

all in all VOTE YES FOR NATURAL SELECTION


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Re: I hate the ignorant Bush bashers!! [Re: spacelord]
    #7078184 - 06/22/07 01:12 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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...when they obviosly know fuck all about him or politics in general...




irony is, Bush doesn't know anything about that either :wink:

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Re: I hate the ignorant Bush bashers!! [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7078238 - 06/22/07 01:46 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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so what was bush supposed to do let the buildings fall and have no action? fuck that then it would just happen alot more,so what if we are killing innocent people this is war not play time,(there are no rules to war)




Hmm how about this... We actually go after the people who did this instead of starting a war in a country that had nothing to do with it what so ever? How about we rage war on those who are hiding Osama? Which I don't believe we are actually even looking for him. This war was for George Bush Sr. and all his corporate owning war buddies. I don't care what you say. The war in Iraq has nothing to do with the events on 9/11.

Here is a little art work I made, that pretty much explains how I feel about this country and its current state.




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For the record, I would show you my butthole but you would fall down and worship it as a God and you would give up everything to roam the land converting the heathens by fire and sword. Millions would die. No, no the cost is too great. I cannot.


Edited by TrippinTeddy (06/22/07 01:52 AM)

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