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OfflineCaptainLinger
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"Cracker Dry", eh?
    #7075796 - 06/21/07 03:36 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Hi there folks!

I was drying up a tray that grew spectacularly, and am faced with an unknown: will huge (50-120g wet) shrooms yield a cracker dry stem? I've had the buggers on fans for 2-3 days. Caps are brittle, stems are ever so pliable/squishy, but seem pretty much dry.

Thanks!

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7075798 - 06/21/07 03:37 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

You can always cut the stems in half, long way - makes it easier to dry


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: LVL12]
    #7075801 - 06/21/07 03:38 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I've created splits down the stems only partially intentionally, by squeezing to test pliability. Still a bit rubbery.

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7075814 - 06/21/07 03:41 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

get a dehydrator man seriously have cracker dry in a day at most a day and a half.


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7075825 - 06/21/07 03:43 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Sigh...answer the question rather than the ideal?

I have no problem drying my shrooms; the little guys are done within hours. I have a dehydrator and use the box fan because it's better anyhow; the difference between 120 degrees and the 80 of my apartment is irrelevent.

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7075866 - 06/21/07 03:49 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

for one it's not possible to get a mushroom cracker dry (with a box fan)unless your arpartment/house contains 0% relative humidity in a dehydrator it uses heat to push the humidity out hense you can get them cracker dry.


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7075881 - 06/21/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, it really is. I've done it with all my mushrooms, minus these uniquely large ones. The heat will speed evaporation; it will not enable the evaporation to extract more water than room temperature air.

Again, you offer a bunch of inane comments about my setup, instead of answering a simple question.

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7075888 - 06/21/07 03:53 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

My ambient humidity is 10-15%, by the way, which is more than workable.

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7075907 - 06/21/07 03:58 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

lol i am not trying to put you out or anything just answering a simple question of science,and offering something that is trusted and alot easier than what you are currently doing,i guess since you dont want this advice your only option is to put them on that box fan and wait days until you get the results that you want.


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7075916 - 06/21/07 03:59 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Are you using damp-rid or anything of the like, or just fan drying, i'm somewhat confused as to what answer you're looking for here, but yes large mushrooms can become cracker dry


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7075918 - 06/21/07 03:59 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

IT will you just have to Dry it foooorever.

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: DiabloSmurf]
    #7075924 - 06/21/07 04:01 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

and due to all that oxidation you are losing the most important thing "potency" which we all strive for.


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: DiabloSmurf]
    #7075932 - 06/21/07 04:02 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Xax, I'm not sure how you offered up any "science" only than an improper/incomplete explanation of how a dehydrator works. It's not as if my method isn't "trusted" or gosh, the same fucking thing without a heater, kid. I think you kind've missed the point that I'm not having any problems, just wanted to know why my guys were still pliable 24 hours later. They'll get dry reasonably soon.

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large mushrooms can become cracker dry




Thanks! I just figured that the spongy interior may have enough give to change things on big'ns.

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7075936 - 06/21/07 04:03 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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and due to all that oxidation you are losing the most important thing "potency" which we all strive for.




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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7075941 - 06/21/07 04:04 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I've done well with a box fan as well until I got my dehydrator. Even with low ambient humidity, those huge stems have trouble drying out completely. As someone said, if you slice them lengthwise it'll make it much easier to dry them without the use of a dehydrator.

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: Lost Nebula]
    #7075954 - 06/21/07 04:06 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, if they don't get nice and crackly in the next 36 hours or so I'm going to go ahead and plug in the heating element on the dehydrator, see what we can do. I hate ruining the look of the big guys by slicing them :/ but just gently crushing the stem halfway through drying has seemed to work.

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7075970 - 06/21/07 04:09 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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I hate ruining the look of the big guys by slicing them




I am totally the same way LOL, but sometimes you have to out of necessity


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: LVL12]
    #7076048 - 06/21/07 04:26 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)



Shrooms do not like to be shock-dried. They prefer the ancient mummy tek. A very slow drying process in a dark surrounding, transforming on a common kitchen tissue.

And they do not like it either, if one cuts of their feets. Just gently remove the rests of the substrate with your fingers and do not use a knife or other instruments on them. I do not believe, that YOU would like it, if they cut your feets prior to your own funeral.

If you do not trust me, then please ask the smart shrooms them self.

Bon voyage

PS. And why make them hard as potato-chips, when you want to eat them? Only more work for your stomach, to digest the stone-hard shrooms. "Soft" is the keyword.


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: RadelBaluvar]
    #7076064 - 06/21/07 04:29 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Is the "talk to the shroom" stuff a shtick, as I thought, or are you stone cold serious?

I wouldn't care much what they did to my feet after I was dead. Nor does a low-level fungus. Slicing does help disperse the moisture.

Making them dry is for storage.

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: RadelBaluvar]
    #7076079 - 06/21/07 04:32 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

After watching that video i can help but think, thats 3 minutes of my life i'm never getting back. Some of the videos are good, but that one particularly is not informative in the least bit.


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: LVL12]
    #7076093 - 06/21/07 04:34 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I tried being optimistic...he went through the hassle to produce videos and doesn't seem to be selling anything...

But the videos are incomplete even compared to RR's Youtube samples, much less the 2 DVD set, and Ravel's offered consistently mediocre advice made worse by the fact his wording as if you're doing daycare, not mycological cultivation, clouds any understanding of his motives.

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7076144 - 06/21/07 04:42 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah RadelBaluvar's youtube videos hes always posting sucks. There not detailed at all and they make me feel dumber

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: implee]
    #7076181 - 06/21/07 04:48 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

hahahahha that is the most hilarious video i have ever seen so ridiculous lol hahahha


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7076238 - 06/21/07 04:57 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Shrooms and money do not match. Selling my grow-videos? NEVER. I have no financial interests at all.

Shrooms are very clever beings and if they like the way one treats them, they start talking to you. Not though, if you think, to listen to some music is the right thing to do, etc.

Shrooms also ask constantly for cleaning of the spirit. Shrooms are spiritual teachers... and one should treat and dry them with greatest respect. Shrooms want to be an even partner to you; not only some kind of a cheap drug. Shrooms or spores do not like it either to be sold like slaves.


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: RadelBaluvar]
    #7076247 - 06/21/07 04:58 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

is this guy for real seriously? lol hahaha


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: RadelBaluvar]
    #7076251 - 06/21/07 04:58 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Mushrooms are only fungal beings, one of the simpler forms of life.

The real beauty in the equation is what they do to your infinitely complex mind.

I think failing to recognize that is the true loss.

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7076337 - 06/21/07 05:14 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

CaptainLinger said:
I have no problem drying my shrooms; the little guys are done within hours. I have a dehydrator and use the box fan because it's better anyhow; the difference between 120 degrees and the 80 of my apartment is irrelevent.




Then why are you making this post , lol .:grin:

If I was having no problem doing something , I wouldn't have to ask what to do about this or that .:confused:

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: HippieChick]
    #7076358 - 06/21/07 05:17 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I just wanted to know whether the process had halted, as it seems to have. I have no questions that I'm properly removing humidity, though xax kind've hijacked it to make a discussion about that.

I simply hadn't ever dried any monsters and wanted to know if I was done.

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7076370 - 06/21/07 05:20 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

lol sorry to be such a hinder in your post but also you didnt like the advice so why bitch more about it ?


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7076389 - 06/21/07 05:23 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Well you posited a lot of bullshit, then were condescending (granted, in response to me :smile:), and never as much as bothered to answer the question!

I shouldn't have even posted how I was dehydrating; it's irrelevant and I didn't ask for advice. Just experience.

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7076401 - 06/21/07 05:29 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I'm just fucking with ya , lol .

I don't know what all this crap about not being able to get the stems and such of your big one's dry is . You guy's must be growing some MONSTERS .

I've had some big ones ,







and yet , to this day , have I to grow one that I had to slice the stem or mutilate in any way . Just put it in the dehydrator and wait a day .:thumbup:

You guy's must really be growing some BIG one's .Guess I better take it up a notch :smirk:

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: RadelBaluvar]
    #7076472 - 06/21/07 05:48 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: HALFemptyJOSH]
    #7076522 - 06/21/07 06:03 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Okay I've never hit 200+ grams :smile: but well over 100 on many this go-round.

Guess that's what happens when you start a tub due to not knowing the (good! all 3 others failed) common advice of 3"-4" max substrate. These EQs fruited out of an 8" deep store poo/straw mix.

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7076640 - 06/21/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

As one may see in the video*, it is the way I treat my friends from Ecuador. I pick them up gently, caress them, do a dialogue with the completely duped beings and prepare them very affectionately for their coming status.

One could call it some form of mutual meditation before they become mummy's. I tell them that they do not have to be afraid. I guarantee them to obey all the needed ritual formalities; after all, they are my friend, yes, the ones who are going to move into my body soon.

In a manner of speaking the sacred shrooms start their work in that very moment when they - still packed in a Zip-lock - enter my room. During the whole time of their growth, we constantly refine the communication. They, and of course me too, learn each day a little bit more to understand us.

* By the way the music in that video is also played by me. The voice comes from an artificial Text-Aloud-women.

PS.

Blue juice is a psilocybin-extract drink served in ancient times by the mushroom high Priestess to the mighty Pharaoh. As you can see in the video and also in the picture above, the high Priestess holds a carafe in form of a mushroom...

I saw her on a wall-painting in Cairo and then made this Poser5 picture.


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: RadelBaluvar]
    #7077620 - 06/21/07 10:16 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Damn, HippieChick, you are fucking awesome!

Radel, all I can say is that if you truly believe all that you say, I bet you have some righteous trips!


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: mushbaby]
    #7077668 - 06/21/07 10:30 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

She has the best mycoporn game going on the web :smile:

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7077750 - 06/21/07 10:55 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)



This is a rather hostile thread IMO.  I use a dehydrator, but I find that air drying them a little first helps with reducing bruising.  The loss of potency he was referring to is caused by making cuts or tearing the stems apart.  The more blueing you get, the less potent your mushroom.  How much you are losing is something that I am not sure anyone on this board can answer.  That particular mushroom had a 5 inch cap on it.  I snapped the cap off and put the stem and cap in the dehydrator.  IME the huge ones do not really get cracker dry.  Meaning they do not snap apart.  That particular strain <Yosterizee> which I would recommend highly.  results of that strain are on my first grow.  Tend to have a bit of hollow stem at the core, so even when it is cracker dry.  It still remains plyable.  A fan will work fine and if it wont dry out to your satisfaction, and you dont want to use a dehydrator.  I would put it over some desiccant. 
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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: JSshroom]
    #7077785 - 06/21/07 11:03 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Lol...

Sorry...I'd spent all day answering questions, and no one seemed to want to answer the actual single question, but critique a setup I'm quite happy with. So I took the high road and started a flame war.

I know cracking the stems will reduce potency...don't think that's what he was referring to with oxidation, however.

Thanks! I have since gotten the big'ns appropriately dried. I can tell what you mean; I was definitely overanxious at the time, though.

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: JSshroom]
    #7077794 - 06/21/07 11:05 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

@ mushbaby

Well, drying the shrooms is only one step on the way to a pleasant experience into a timeless fantastical dimension. What one thinks during such a voyage is important. If your thoughts are right you may move on. If your thoughts are wrong and you are not willing to work on that, you might have to run another round in the rain. As a reward for thinking along the right direction though, one gets often brilliant visuals and fancy sounds.

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This video is NOT made by me.... CaptainLinger, Sire.

Like many other drugs, the magic mushrooms tease you - at the beginning - with easy going pleasure. And as soon as you are hooked on shrooms, the shrooms do not show any readiness to deal on certain cosmic laws.

Drying the shrooms - This sentence must be written now, otherwise the moderator comes in. OK?

The best time to harvest the shrooms is the moment before they open their caps. And finally drying shrooms is a bit like making love: Don't rush. Give them time to slowly become mummy's.


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: RadelBaluvar]
    #7077801 - 06/21/07 11:08 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

:rofl:

love that video

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: RadelBaluvar]
    #7077979 - 06/22/07 12:02 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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The best time to harvest the shrooms is the moment before they open their caps. And finally drying shrooms is a bit like making love: Don't rush. Give them time to slowly become mummy's.




Not to be a prude or anything, but how can you have been talking about this sort of thing for so long and still misspell 'mummies'?


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7078023 - 06/22/07 12:12 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeah, if they don't get nice and crackly in the next 36 hours or so I'm going to go ahead and plug in the heating element on the dehydrator, see what we can do. I hate ruining the look of the big guys by slicing them :/ but just gently crushing the stem halfway through drying has seemed to work.




Why don't you just leave the heating element in to start with??

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: exagram]
    #7078024 - 06/22/07 12:13 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

@ exagram

I beg your pardon.

English is a foreign language for me. My language is Swiss dialect (Not Swedish). Of course I have to look up many words in the dictionary and I also use the "Check Spelling" feature here at Shroomery.

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: RadelBaluvar]
    #7078118 - 06/22/07 12:44 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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@ exagram

I beg your pardon.

English is a foreign language for me. My language is Swiss dialect (Not Swedish). Of course I have to look up many words in the dictionary and I also use the "Check Spelling" feature here at Shroomery.

Good grow




sorry for jumping off topic but, to be able to write a foreign language is quite impressive, Good Job sir.


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: LVL12]
    #7079082 - 06/22/07 09:54 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

bring on the moderator.  I do not see any potency loss after the caps open.  Your own video has the caps open  :humpme: This is really getting off subject, but I have also dried shrooms at 150F and some at 95F.  No one said anything different about the potency of them.  I agree it does not hurt to give them an extra day just in case there is a potency difference.  If there is one cap opened in a large clump.  I let it mature, dump its spores, and wait for the others.  Still no one said anything different.  All I heard was those rocked. IME, of course yours may be different.  You have a very different take on this whole subject though.


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: JSshroom]
    #7079696 - 06/22/07 12:54 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

One can only guess. It (The matter) continuous to stay a rather theoretical discussion, because no one really knows for sure how the drying process influenced the Psilocybin content of shrooms.

Even Doctor Albert Hofmann, by the way also from Switzerland, would have great difficulties to answer this question. For an experiment we would need two identical twin shrooms, one with an open cap and one with the cap still closed. As we can see right here, there are no two identical twin shrooms, if one of the twins eats for a longer time from the substrate in order to have additional time to open the cap.



So what is the conclusion?

Well, it is a matter of taste. Shrooms with closed caps taste better; why should I eat spores? (as they are in open-cap-shrooms). Some young vegetable germ buds are often also more tasty then e.g. the mature bam-bus twigs. One has also to consider the shrooms exposing time to light. How the air influences the Psilocybin, and what does temperature to them.

The mummy-tek seems to me the most decent way to dry the shrooms, because this is nature pure.... and often that is the best solution.

I think: If someone puts the shrooms on an electric heater or in front of a fan and things like that, he/she is, in a spiritual sense, actually not entitled to eat shrooms.

There is, as it seems to me, a great deficit of knowledge about the cultivation of the shrommers spirit. The cultivation of the shrooms and the own spiritual cultivation/development should go hand in hand. Ancient shroom drying rituals must be obeyed very carefully.

@ JSshroom
Yes, it is true, one can see some shrooms with open caps in the video; as an autodidact I must try out all the different things myself in order to find a clear-cut issue.


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: RadelBaluvar]
    #7079944 - 06/22/07 02:19 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

the only way to do a side by side would be an isolate strain. shrooms weigh the same. so you would have a bigger one with a closed cap. shorter thats open to allow picking so they are the same size. Then pick a little off either way to make sure they are the same weight. I personally have to eat 7 grams minimum to set my trip off. That is off of shrooms that have some people seeing visuals at 1 1/4 grams. The same person would have to eat it, that recorded the quality and experience of the trip. Then do it about a month later.

I do not share the same extreme spiritual relationship with the caps as you do. I do know where you are coming from though. I also have my relationship with them. I view them as a drug thats effects are subject to the user. I have eaten 11 grams and had one hell of a good time. I ate 8 grams at once on an empty stomache and dipped in and out of a 4 1/2 to 5 level trip. That was not fun at all, but I never got upset about it. That was what was supposed to happen, and given what happened between me and another person. I saw something in them I wish had not been there.


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7081494 - 06/22/07 09:08 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I have a question about 'cracker dryness.'

I have not yet dried any fruits of my own, but I have purchased dried mushrooms many times before (from as many different sources), and they've never been so dry that they're truly brittle. I mean, you could bend a skinny stem in half without breaking it.

I suppose this means that 2g of that level of dryness is much less potent than 2g of truly cracker dry mushrooms.

Or is the phrase 'cracker dry' a bit of an exaggeration? Are they really as brittle as soda biscuits (i.e. if you throw one at the wall will it shatter?)


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: veilbreaker]
    #7081546 - 06/22/07 09:21 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

:smile: It won't shatter. But it'll definitely crack if you bend it. There's a pretty clear line between pliable and brittle; they're brittle at the cracker dry stage. The huge ones have a bit of give, if not bend, to them.

And yes, I wouldn't assume it to be huge so long as the mushrooms were pretty dry, but a reasonable moisture content in your "dried" shrooms will affect weight.

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7081575 - 06/22/07 09:28 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

The ones i've had purchased that bend a little, i've found i can make dryer, cracker dry isnt an exaggeration so much as a comparison. Some of my larger hollowed stems have shattered when squeezed slightly to see if they were "cracker dry"


I dont know if its much less potent per weight when they're bendy, but i'd assume there is some kind of difference because if they're bendy there is definatly some moisture left in there and moisture will affect the weight, perhaps not greatly between very very dry and brittle dry, but who knows, water weighs quite a bit.


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: LVL12]
    #7081912 - 06/22/07 11:09 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

yeah buying wet weight is a load of crap. I ran the dehydrator for 2 days and I thought it was done. Well it wasnt so I cranked it up to 145F for about 15 minutes. They were done then, and its back to 95F for the next run. I have a upper and lower dryer 24 stack, and another bottom heater with 8 odd trays. I will get a top one with some extra trays. I still like to fan dry them to begin with, while I clean the casing off of them. It is a major pain once they dry out. enough about all this off topic stuff


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: JSshroom]
    #7086686 - 06/24/07 10:22 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

oh another thing is.  It took me about drying 1.4 pounds to figure out the right dryness for the small ones and the monsters.  trial and error man.  If you think a monster is dry.  Cut it open and if it blues then its not dry.  If it looks kind of pliable inside but is dry to the touch then it should be fine.  I actually bag them up by the qp with coffee filter desiccant bags.  I find after 1 day that no matter how dry they were.  They still lose some weight :tongue:


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: JSshroom]
    #7086766 - 06/24/07 10:44 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)




The bigger ones definitely get cracker dry, and brittle.


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: Eraserhead]
    #7088955 - 06/24/07 09:57 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

See how the stems can be hollow. Thats what makes them bend, and hard to tell if they are dry enough. If in doubt just run them a little longer or put them in the bag. Make a desiccant ball out of two coffee filters and a rubber band. I find that even if I cook those things at 150F then they always lose a little weight when I put the desiccant bags in there.


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: JSshroom]
    #7091087 - 06/25/07 02:30 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

man you get them mostly dried with the fan then stick them in an airtight container with tons of DrieRite (calcium chloride) to finish the job.

within a couple of days voila
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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: mrEdude]
    #7092561 - 06/25/07 09:40 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I was going to do a huge experiment involving damp rid vs a dehydrator that dehydrate at 160, after putting the first batch into the dehydrator and then trying them, i cancelled the experiment, Its so much easier and i didnt notice any potency loss... cracker dry in 6-24 hours! *i'd say the average is like 8 hours*


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: LVL12]
    #7092700 - 06/25/07 10:09 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

We really need to sticky that video to the top of the forum.

If you guys missed it -

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: noodles]
    #7093419 - 06/26/07 01:36 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Why? Its one guys perception of associating with nature. It has nothing to do with cultivation. If anywhere, it would go in the psychadelic experience forum. Nothing wrong with what he beleives about it. I did not gain anything from flipping through the vid.


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: JSshroom]
    #7093426 - 06/26/07 01:38 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

lol almost all of his vids are retarded.No offense but they dont really educate on a scientific level.


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7093500 - 06/26/07 02:14 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

OK... if you don't ask me: Yes, I did compose and also play the music in that silly video.

The woman's voice comes from TextAloud.


Her name is Crystal16. She is a very dependable and also very willing gal. But I think she needs another heart attack from me... soon !

I'm always happy when the mighty shroom lets me synchronize the lightning of the fire right to a beat. Then I know, that the transcendent power is saved to the computer; yes, sure, it is a bit more, then common magic.

And if the word "SEEFOOD" fits as tight as an Italian shoe, I am on the top and I almost have a spiritual orgasm.

Yes folks, I am a very simple person, but I like me.

I thrive on the unknown and unpredictable. Novelty is my middle name. I am a challenger. I tend to challenge common assumptions and beliefs. As an expert inventor and problem solver, I approach everything from new angles. I show people how to question their models of the world.


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And finally: I am also near the top of my list of people to see.


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: RadelBaluvar]
    #7093513 - 06/26/07 02:19 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

ummm what the hell are you talking about?


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7093527 - 06/26/07 02:24 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

seriously man i think this shroomcity dude has a mental problem

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7093533 - 06/26/07 02:27 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

@ xaxphaanes

I talk about the way one should treat and dry shrooms... as one can see in my video. Let them dry slowly... as shroom-mummies love it.


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: RadelBaluvar]
    #7093537 - 06/26/07 02:30 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

radelbaluvar are you mentally stable?

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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: AbyssWP]
    #7093556 - 06/26/07 02:36 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Are WE stable? Actually I'm right back from the funny farm.... now I'm going to put my shrooms on the radiator.


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: RadelBaluvar]
    #7093627 - 06/26/07 03:12 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

wow this guy is a freakin joke and has done waaaaayyyyy to much psychedelics or something.


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Re: "Cracker Dry", eh? [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7094433 - 06/26/07 11:28 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

agreed.  We are talking about shroom drying into their cracker dry state.  Instead of throwing 95% of your personal beliefs about mummies into the equation.  That stuff goes in a different forum.  No disrespect, but we are concerned with growing and processing in this forum.  Not what happens later.  The original Q had to do with how to know they were dry.  O BTW there is another name for shrooms...Drugs.
Mumified Drugs - :spit:

I post pics as well 

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