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Invisiblecoon
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Re: black and white mulberry shoots and berries hallucinogenic [Re: InsolentPrude]
    #7077656 - 06/21/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

so all that remains would be to find out what piperidine alkaloid is in morus alba,if it's of low toxicity like say what is in tobacco.nobody has died of mulberries so I reckon it would be safe to try. low increments of increased dosage each time.:igor:

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Re: black and white mulberry shoots and berries hallucinogenic [Re: coon]
    #7077812 - 06/21/07 11:10 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

what does psychoavtive mullberry have in common with a mafia hit?



















give up?
















shoots, berrys and leaves

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Re: black and white mulberry shoots and berries hallucinogenic [Re: Mitchnast]
    #7077837 - 06/21/07 11:15 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

:werd:


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Re: black and white mulberry shoots and berries hallucinogenic [Re: Mitchnast]
    #7078269 - 06/22/07 02:19 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

good one.:igor:

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Re: black and white mulberry shoots and berries hallucinogenic *DELETED* [Re: AgingHippy]
    #7079025 - 06/22/07 09:36 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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Edited by Mead (06/22/07 09:40 AM)

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Re: black and white mulberry shoots and berries hallucinogenic [Re: Mead]
    #7079281 - 06/22/07 10:57 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

anyone know of some sources that give a good idea of the areas they live in with a map? (i.e. central texas?)

this sounds pretty interesting

viscous


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Re: black and white mulberry shoots and berries hallucinogenic [Re: viscous98gsx]
    #7079325 - 06/22/07 11:08 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

a standard extraction should do the work...

i will try that soon...


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Re: black and white mulberry shoots and berries hallucinogenic [Re: viscous98gsx]
    #7079346 - 06/22/07 11:13 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

every state but Nevada.:igor:

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Re: black and white mulberry shoots and berries hallucinogenic [Re: coon]
    #7079511 - 06/22/07 12:03 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

mitchnast that was hilarious. Although I have a few mulberry trees on my land. I think it would be worth to try ingesting a low dosage of unripe fruits and work my way up? maybe start with 10-15 berries and see what happens. then a few days later try more? I don't know if it would even be worth being sick? from that erowid report it sounds like the kid ingested maybe 50+ berries at least? more probably.


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Re: black and white mulberry shoots and berries hallucinogenic [Re: Mead]
    #7079530 - 06/22/07 12:12 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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Mead said:
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teefizzle said:
I just get motion sick easily...




maybe your hallucinogen of choice should be Dramamine :rofl:

seriously I was only kidding, Dramamine is a motion sickness drug; maybe pop a Dramamine before hallucinogens.


it's worth a try, but no large doses of dimenhydrinate or diphenhydramine for me.

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mitchnast that was hilarious. Although I have a few mulberry trees on my land. I think it would be worth to try ingesting a low dosage of unripe fruits and work my way up? maybe start with 10-15 berries and see what happens. then a few days later try more? I don't know if it would even be worth being sick? from that erowid report it sounds like the kid ingested maybe 50+ berries at least? more probably.



report back after you do!

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Re: black and white mulberry shoots and berries hallucinogenic [Re: AgingHippy]
    #7079790 - 06/22/07 01:17 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Man, I can't wait to hear about what happens jben... I wish I had some of those mulberry trees near where I live... can you get them at a nursery, or do you have to find them outside?


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Re: black and white mulberry shoots and berries hallucinogenic [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #7080826 - 06/22/07 06:10 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

American Society of Plant Biologists

1-Deoxynojirimycin (DNJ), a polyhydroxylated piperidine, is a potent a-glycosidase inhibitor and is abundant in Morus spp. (mulberry trees) leaves and roots. Nowadays, M. alba leaves and dried Bombyx mori (silkworm) powder are taken as healthy foods in Korea. A simple method for the assay of DNJ was established and seasonal change of DNJ content in M. alba leaves was determined using the method. The method includes simple hot-water extraction, derivatization with 9-fluorenylmethyl chloroformate and reversed-phase high-performance liquid chromatography. Optimal conditions for extraction and derivatization are described. For the stability of FMOC-derivative of DNJ, it was essential to dilute derivatization mixture with 0.1% acetic acid and to operate at 4¡É. The seasonal change of DNJ content in M. alba leaves seemed considerately related to that of temperature.


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Re: black and white mulberry shoots and berries hallucinogenic [Re: somethingstew]
    #7080909 - 06/22/07 06:29 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

interesting...

"1-Deoxynojirimycin (DNJ) is naturally-occurred alkaloid with promising physiological activities in vivo (i.e., inhibition of intestinal a-glucosidase) (1). The compound is a D-glucose analogue, in which the pyranose ring oxygen is replaced by nitrogen (Fig. 1). In 1976, DNJ was isolated from mulberry tree (Morus alba) for the first time. This DNJ isolation prompted the concept that dietary mulberry DNJ might be beneficial for the suppression of abnormally high blood glucose levels, thereby preventing diabetes."

EDIT: by Tom Brown (thanks A-Rock)


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Re: black and white mulberry shoots and berries hallucinogenic [Re: InsolentPrude]
    #7084891 - 06/23/07 09:21 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Xxetniesxx, your quote is written by Tom Brown, a honkey who was trained by an american indian. Everyone here should read all his books, they are strangely amazing and worthwhile if you like plants and the outdoors.

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Re: black and white mulberry shoots and berries hallucinogenic [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7084909 - 06/23/07 09:31 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I see no mention of Deoxynojirimycin being a hallucinogen.what would make mulberry hallucinogenic?:igor:

Edited by coon (06/23/07 10:42 PM)

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Re: black and white mulberry shoots and berries hallucinogenic [Re: coon]
    #7085185 - 06/23/07 10:42 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

That doesn't sound like much fun Coon. I've been food poisoned before, and it sounds exactly like that. If you could get high by eating green mulberries it would be common knowledge by now. Those things just make you sick. They will not get you high.

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Re: black and white mulberry shoots and berries hallucinogenic [Re: shroomydan]
    #7085197 - 06/23/07 10:48 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

yeah,got poisoned by some General Tsos chicken last year.poisoning is no barrel of laughs,I know.maybe it's just assumed hallucenogenic?:igor:

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Re: black and white mulberry shoots and berries hallucinogenic [Re: coon]
    #7085421 - 06/23/07 11:50 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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coon said:
yeah,got poisoned by some General Tsos chicken last year.poisoning is no barrel of laughs,I know.maybe it's just assumed hallucenogenic?:igor:




i get poisoned EVERY TIME i eat gen. tso's chicken...tastes like cat.




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Re: black and white mulberry shoots and berries hallucinogenic [Re: InsolentPrude]
    #7085481 - 06/24/07 12:08 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Tsos is good shit,just not that day.the doctor said it incubated in my intestines.it felt like I had porcupines in my guts.it also felt like shitting porcupines too.oh well,screw mulberries.:igor:

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Re: black and white mulberry shoots and berries hallucinogenic [Re: coon]
    #7085586 - 06/24/07 12:39 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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coon said:
oh well,screw mulberries.:igor:




that's just cuz Dan said so :smile: :lol:

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