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djcube
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#7069928 - 06/20/07 01:47 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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So am officially on probation for the first time. 12 months. I am going to use synthetic pee for my first visit because I am sure they are going to test me. Should I be worried about them watching me (should I get a whizzinator) or can I get away without one. I realize everyones expirience is different, just wondering how others handle it. Also, home searches, how thorough, how much do I have to worry? Any advice, stories, suggestions would be helpful.
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Re: Probation [Re: djcube]
#7069947 - 06/20/07 01:51 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've got a suggestion for you.
How about rather than risking them watching and catching you (people have been caught with Whizzinators, too, you know..) and violating your probation..
How about not smoking pot for a year?
Sounds like the smart move to me.
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OneMoreRobot3021 said: I've got a suggestion for you.
How about rather than risking them watching and catching you (people have been caught with Whizzinators, too, you know..) and violating your probation..
How about not smoking pot for a year?
Sounds like the smart move to me.
Lol. Impossible.
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I think he means he only needs it his first visit because maybe he got arrested somewhat not long ago an still may have it in his system.
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djcube
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Well smarty pants, how about I am a heavy smoker and since I was just put on probation It will be over a month before I am clean. If I can pass my very first test it will look good for my 'rehabilitation' The only reason im on papers is for OAR 4th. I didnt ask for snotty ass 'why dontchas'
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Re: Probation [Re: djcube]
#7070000 - 06/20/07 02:04 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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When you check in for the first time they will test you and if you fail they will give you classes and schedule you for frequent UA's. Seriously just quit.
I just got off probation in April and it was hell. You hesitate to set any goals in life and constantly sweat that the ones you have are constantly overshadowed. I failed a few piss tests and they added more time and a bunch of bullshit classes.
Quit. Keep your house clean. No beer cans left out, and keep your fridge clear if part of your sentencing prohibits alcohol.
If you stay clean, you'll barely notice you're on probation. I wished I had made it easier.
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Re: Probation [Re: djcube]
#7070004 - 06/20/07 02:04 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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"I think he means he only needs it his first visit because maybe he got arrested somewhat not long ago an still may have it in his system."
Exactly Tangerine. Thanks
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Re: Probation [Re: Cowgold]
#7070008 - 06/20/07 02:05 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have court thursday, it is just araignment. Do they test you the day of court in your guys experiences? I hear differnt things from different people.
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Re: Probation [Re: djcube]
#7070012 - 06/20/07 02:06 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Being defensive like that... probation officers like to fuck with you. What the hell is OAR?
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djcube
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Re: Probation [Re: djcube]
#7070017 - 06/20/07 02:06 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I do intend to stay clean, I just want to piss clean my first time to keep things looking good.
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Re: Probation [Re: djcube]
#7070021 - 06/20/07 02:07 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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djcube did they test on your court date? I am assuming no?
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Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.
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Cowgold
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They were going to, but my case was a transfer. They didn't test me until I was transfered. I had forgotten all about that. :scratcheshead:
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djcube
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Re: Probation [Re: djcube]
#7070028 - 06/20/07 02:08 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Operating After Revocation. Stupid shit to get probation for. I am a good actor and will have no problem putting on a game face for a year, but an initial dirty pisser will hurt for the long run.
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Re: Probation [Re: Cowgold]
#7070031 - 06/20/07 02:09 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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If I get teste thursday, I am fucked no matter what cause I smoked saturday(when i got arrestes). I have been drinking mad amounts of water and will drink vinegar the day of trial. It is an alcohol related issue, do they even piss test for that?
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djcube
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Re: Probation [Re: djcube]
#7070032 - 06/20/07 02:09 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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No, I had to get a transfer to the town I live. Now Im just waiting for the call from P.O. to come on down.
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Re: Probation [Re: djcube]
#7070038 - 06/20/07 02:10 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Probation is a bitch, but you know when you're doing something you're not supposed to. Unfair or not, they've got your balls.
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djcube
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Re: Probation [Re: djcube]
#7070040 - 06/20/07 02:10 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you have nething on your record that indicates drugs, they will test you.
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Re: Probation [Re: djcube]
#7070044 - 06/20/07 02:12 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Do you need some soap on a rope, sent to you.
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Re: Probation [Re: djcube]
#7070046 - 06/20/07 02:12 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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No I just have a prior alcohol related conviction from last summer.
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djcube
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Re: Probation [Re: Brainiac]
#7070052 - 06/20/07 02:13 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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No soap will be neccisary. Even If i got revoked I am eligable for home detention. 160 days is a long fuckin time at home.
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Cowgold
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I was on probation for alcohol charges and I was scheduled for a few random tests.
Pretty much privacy is a luxury you no longer have. I hope you two are comfortable showing your peter to gay guys. You get 5 mins to overcome any stage fright or you'll get a failure to produce specimen.
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Re: Probation [Re: Cowgold]
#7070061 - 06/20/07 02:15 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I wont have a problem peeinig in front of annyone if it comes down to it. As long as I am not tested on my court date all will be well.
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Re: Probation [Re: djcube]
#7070067 - 06/20/07 02:16 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Potheads are the funniest and most predictable people. They are on probation and they risk going to jail because of a hot piss test yet they'll fucking smoke anyway.
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Re: Probation [Re: djcube]
#7070068 - 06/20/07 02:16 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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JK with you
160 day is alot of time, to start a new hobby.
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Re: Probation [Re: Cowgold]
#7070072 - 06/20/07 02:16 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Why would I have to show my dick to gay guys? Majority of PO's around here are female and even if it was a male, i dont think he would neccisarily be gay. Either way, Its a dick, we all got one, dont see what their is to be frightened about.
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Re: Probation [Re: Brainiac]
#7070075 - 06/20/07 02:17 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yea I am a pothead but I have quit since I got arrested. My court date just happened to be 5 days afterwards so I would be sort of trapped.
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Re: Probation [Re: djcube]
#7070081 - 06/20/07 02:19 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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"Potheads are the funniest and most predictable people. They are on probation and they risk going to jail because of a hot piss test yet they'll fucking smoke anyway." Your fucking stupid to categorize people in such a manner. Like i said earlier, I am not currently nor am I going to smoke for my probation, but I am already dirty as I was just put on prob yesterday (unexpectedly) and I want to piss clean my first time.
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I don't understand it, either. I smoked until I got off probation.
RE: probationees
The xxtra clean detox drink works. But, don't depend on it.
I know these guys will, though.
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Re: Probation [Re: Cowgold]
#7070090 - 06/20/07 02:20 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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How expensive and where can you buy these? Head shops?
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Re: Probation [Re: djcube]
#7070091 - 06/20/07 02:21 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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You might want to edit that.
And, don't be so fucking defensive.
edit: Practice what you preach. they say.
Edited by Cowgold (06/20/07 02:40 PM)
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Re: Probation [Re: Cowgold]
#7070098 - 06/20/07 02:22 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I may want to edit? Or dj?
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Re: Probation [Re: djcube]
#7070111 - 06/20/07 02:24 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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djcube said: Why would I have to show my dick to gay guys? Majority of PO's around here are female and even if it was a male, i dont think he would neccisarily be gay. Either way, Its a dick, we all got one, dont see what their is to be frightened about.
My PO was a woman, but there was a gay dude that would watch your piss leave your dick. He wasn't gay because he was watching me, he was gay because he was gay. Most of them are.
Pissed at the world? I suppose you didn't do anything wrong and we're all just picking on you.
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Re: Probation [Re: Cowgold]
#7070149 - 06/20/07 02:32 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Pissed at the world? Pun Intended? haha I am pissed
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Re: Probation [Re: djcube]
#7070484 - 06/20/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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djcube said: I didnt ask for snotty ass 'why dontchas'
how about a 'why didntcha' stay clean prior to court, you knew it was coming and that this was a possibility, your first piss is always a freebie, they wont violate you and it really wont subject you to any different treatment than you'd receive after a clean one... you'll probably get several popped on you regardless.
I showed up my PO, she asked if I was stoned, I said yes, she said dont do it again
my brother showed up stoned, same shit, he pissed hot several times, including the home visit they made, they dragged him in front of the judge several times, the same judge that was presiding over his messy ($14,000 worth of messy) divorce, and after so many visits, the judge said to his PO, "if you bring him back in front of me again with this bullshit, I'll jail you for contempt of court"
actual mileage may vary
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Re: Probation [Re: djcube]
#7070583 - 06/20/07 04:16 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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allright...I didn't read all the responces so far
BUT
I do know all about this one (considering I, myself, am on probation now)
first thing's first:
- they watch you take a fucken piss (read: do not simply go in there with a bottle of someone else's shit) - TWO - you're allowed to be 'dirty' your first time...they expect that shit (just don't make a habbit of comming up one iota less then where you're at that first time) - and certainly don't 'bail out' when you're *supposed to* drop a UA (they look down upon this...even when you have a legitimate reason 'not to')
take it from an old pro bro: these are people you do NOT want to 'fuck with' on this one
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Re: Probation [Re: Muppet]
#7070586 - 06/20/07 04:18 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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If I get piss tested for an alcohol related crime and it is dirty with THC I don't think it will be allowed. If I got caught smoking then maybe that would be a different story.
Am I correct in this assumption?
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I dunno...to be perfectly honest with you
but I DO know that 'standard' UAs don't *typically* test for alcohol (even if you're being tested for alcohol rlated bullshit)
so having alcohol in yur system will likely never get you in trouble anyhow
I'm pretty sure that marijuanna shows up regardless though (cause it's one of the top five they always fucken look for)
ssooo...I would imagine that having a marijuana related charge would have nothing to do with it
a 'fuck up' is still a 'fuck up' I'm pretty sure
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Re: Probation [Re: Muppet]
#7070803 - 06/20/07 05:07 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Listen I am a pro at this subject.
First of all don't use a wizzinator! They wont test you untill you areat least in the 3rd or 4th month because if you had used before probation they know it takes a while to get out of your system so don't worry. even if in a pretrial investigation you said you dont smoke it's OK. Believe me. Just dont use while on this 12 month period.
Home searches from probation do happen but it is rare and just depends on your case and your PO so don't sweat that. Nonetheless if you can just don't give them a reason to bust you...dont have anything in your house and don't hang out there a lot if you can. You're gonna be OK just don't give them a reason to bust you unless you have balls and aren't afraid to go to jail over this stupid Drug War paranoia.
..and Tangeriene... first araingement hearings are just a quick court check in...they give you your paperwork and set another date usually a month to 3 months away..and no you probably wont get a drug test..but just keep clean. And drinking water days ahead and drinking vinegar the day of a test do not work. Just keep active, eat right and don't use and you will be fine.
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Yea but when I go to court I am pleading "no contest" so it the judge will just give me my sentance right then and there.
That is what i did when I got underage consumption(being 18) last summer.
I just want to get this shit over with as soon as possible
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well u wont piss the day of court.
i didnt meet with my PO until 2 months after my sentencing.
just piss clean, and u wont have to go back there to piss again more than likely.
im on probation for a year cuz of dui, i pissed clean at the first one, and now i dont even have to see my PO....but i still dont smoke, its not worth it.
Edited by Leanin (06/20/07 05:26 PM)
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Re: Probation [Re: Leanin]
#7070881 - 06/20/07 05:28 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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amn a year probation for a dui? That blows. If I get probation and have to go back to school in the fall and not be able to drink during the football season I will have to shoot myself. Or eat lots of acid.
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Leanin
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dude dont worry about drinking, i dont.
my PO doesnt even give a fuck, i wont get piss tested again he told me. but im not chancing it.
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Re: Probation [Re: Leanin]
#7070886 - 06/20/07 05:30 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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im not 21 tho....
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Leanin
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im not either, you arent suppose to drink regardless.
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Re: Probation [Re: Leanin]
#7070894 - 06/20/07 05:32 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I know but when I go to school it is accepted. Walk in a mile radius of osu campus on football weekends and every house is a party. Hard not to drink in that situation.
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Tangerines said: If I get piss tested for an alcohol related crime and it is dirty with THC I don't think it will be allowed. If I got caught smoking then maybe that would be a different story.
Am I correct in this assumption?
no because marijuana is an illegal substance in most states, they can violate you and issue new charges in addition
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Im on probation they test for weed ,opiates(not oxycodone,dilaudid etc.), amphetamines,cocaine, and benzos. Take another drug if ur that much of a drug addict.
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Re: Probation [Re: AtPeace]
#7072337 - 06/20/07 10:34 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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my state they test for weed, alcohol, amphetamines, cocaine.
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Re: Probation [Re: djcube]
#7072418 - 06/20/07 10:45 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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They epect the first piss test to be postitive, but the next one..epecilly if it is weed. I have been down this road twice, dont use anymore, unless you like to be in jail and pay $$$$$$ in fines. The system is not fair, but they dont care they love all your money though.
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Re: Probation [Re: Skunk420]
#7072456 - 06/20/07 10:51 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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They expect it if they convict you of a marijuana related crime but not an alcohol related crime that is my fear.
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djcube
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Actually, I didnt know I was going to have to take probation when I went to court, I was under the assumption that my lawyer had a better deal for me. Anyways, Ive decided to get some ready clean (which I know works) for my first visit. Ive heard they dont test right away, Ive heard they do. I think its a matter of who your po is and where you are. So better safe then sorry, if they dont test me, fine , Ill be clean by the next time anyways. I do appreciate all of the input.
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djcube
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Re: Probation [Re: djcube]
#7073573 - 06/21/07 03:20 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Also, its not a marijuana related crime, but I do have a posession fine pending and I have it on my record, which they will have. So their is no doubt in my mind they will want to make sure i am 'rehabilitated' in all areas, unless they are cool, which probably doesnt happen all too often. Im out...
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Quote:
OneMoreRobot3021 said: I've got a suggestion for you.
How about rather than risking them watching and catching you (people have been caught with Whizzinators, too, you know..) and violating your probation..
How about not smoking pot for a year?
Sounds like the smart move to me.
ditto
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djcube
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Is their a broken record here? Ive stated several times that I have already quit smoking, I just want to piss clean for the first test if they give me one right away. Read the other posts.
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