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Droz
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Emotions
#7057438 - 06/17/07 03:18 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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What exactly are emotions? I know they are these feelings that you get when you are with a girl/guy that you start to fall for. But what exactly are they and how do they control us? It's like emotions are a downside to human life for it makes you weak in the knees.
If I could i'd ignore all my emotions so that my emotions cannot control me. Love is powerful, but makes a man weak.
Peace, Droz
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MushroomTrip
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Re: Emotions [Re: Droz]
#7057513 - 06/17/07 03:33 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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How exactly does love make you weak?
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KingKush
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hmm. What are emotions, you ask ?
Well They are feeling that affect the sub-concious a little bit more. They come with thought's, that are often misleading
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Droz
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Re: Emotions [Re: KingKush]
#7057593 - 06/17/07 03:49 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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MushroomTrip - Most relationships lead to heartache, most! Then there are that select few that work out. Instead of being weak because you feel love towards someone be strong and have a more open relationship. One that doesn't involve the "I love you" and "let's get married" when it makes the heart weak.
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Re: Emotions [Re: Droz]
#7057621 - 06/17/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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love pretty much leads to attatchment in my book
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MushroomTrip
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Re: Emotions [Re: Droz]
#7057639 - 06/17/07 04:00 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think the weakness you're talking abut comes from our own inside conflicts and confusions, which are prior to feeling love. Love is a state which requires opening up and if we're in a state where we're lying to ourselves or are in fear, that's what we show when we open up. It's like saying that acid gives you bad trips. It doesn't. It's your own mind who does that, for specific reasons.
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MushroomTrip said: It's like saying that acid gives you bad trips. It doesn't. It's your own mind who does that, for specific reasons.
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Yeah, love isn't a weakness; its empowering. Love is transformative (if that is even a word ), and immersing oneself within it evolves one's understanding and awareness of their experience of reality. Its a higher level of consciousness than one centered around power, or sensation, or security. It essentially encompasses all of those levels of consciousness and keeps them in balance, focused around what is really important in life - a loving, peaceful experience of life, typically shared with another that is perfect for you in every way.
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Droz
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All i get is heartache after i fall in love, i get jealous, afraid and hurt. Then when the relationship is over i'm stuck with a weakened heart.
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Williamsii
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Emotions are simply part of the human condition, for better or worse.
However, being disconnected from emotions is a lot worse. Without emotion there can be no compassion. Soldiers who have desensitized themselves as a coping mechanism are also capable of horrific acts.
I think the weakness you are talking about is more about lack of control as you generally can't control your emotions. Like a trip, don't try and control just let go and let it flow through you. This can help you feel more at peace. Yes relationships can cause a lot of pain, I know, but they also induce deep happiness. Try and get in touch with you emotions, accept them, don't see them as an enemy that makes you weak. They are part of you and should be embraced.
Then again, everyone is different so try and figure it out for yourself so that it makes sense for you.
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what exactly are they and how do they control us?
Well they are chemical changes in the brain and body that stimulate nueroactivity and body reactions. A lot of emotional reactions are based in the second largest collection of nerve endings in your body, the solar plexus at the base of your spine(i don't know if this is a scientific label) which gives you those feelings in the pit of your stomach.
Whether emotions are something more is an open question but that is how we think they control us anyway.
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Re: Emotions [Re: Droz]
#7057762 - 06/17/07 04:38 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Droz said: All i get is heartache after i fall in love, i get jealous, afraid and hurt. Then when the relationship is over i'm stuck with a weakened heart.
Jealousy comes from your own uncertainties, not from the love itself. I think that first of all you should analyze why exactly do you feel jealous? Is it a low self esteem? Is it the fact that maybe you were cheated in the past? Is it that you generally don't trust people? Could be lots of "reasons". So find out yours and then fix it Could be social programming. I mean, it could be the fact that you see and hear people talking that showing your emotions is a sign of weakness and then you do that because you're under the (wrong) impression that love make you weak. It doesn't, it you who are making yourself weak.
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Re: Emotions [Re: Droz]
#7057893 - 06/17/07 05:03 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Droz said: Most relationships lead to heartache, most!
Is it relationships that lead to heartache, or our inaccurate assumptions and expectations that cause our pain when they go unfulfilled?
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Re: Emotions [Re: Droz]
#7060895 - 06/18/07 10:37 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey Droz,
that sounds like conditional love. Look where you make yourself dependent on your lover, then you will see, where MT's and NN's analysis head
The only danger of unconditional love is, that your partner will become jeleaus, because you never can stop flirting with other girls even if you promise to stay with your partner (of course)
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BlueCoyote said: The only danger of unconditional love is, that your partner will become jeleaus, because you never can stop flirting with other girls even if you promise to stay with your partner (of course)
Unconditional love implies that one will flirt with other individuals?
Sounds like horrible rationalization, to me. "Oh, its unconditional love why I divert attention from you to flirt with other women" Do you find yourself broke because you give all your money to everyone around you and say its because you love everyone unconditionally?
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It's not that I eat too much, it's that I love all food unconditionally!
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Rose
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I am a professional actor, I have spent the past twenty-one years studying human emotions... and how to create them, for an audience... on command. No, I am not a doctor... but, I certainly do know a thing or two about emotions.
Love is just ONE emotion... there are several others... but not as many as one might think.
We feel emotion when our previous experiences set off warnings in our brain. We also, feel emotion when our experiences have not prepared us for what is currently happening.
Emotional triggers release chemicals into our brain... and those chemicals are what we FEEL, when we feel emotional.
We do choose to feel emotions... what happens next though, is mostly out of our control. Let's say you choose to fall in love with someone...
The emotion of love releases large amounts of Serotonin into the brain... just like a HEAVY drug (like say... an opiate) would. This causes a person, who is "In love". To feel euphoria... but it also causes them to act a little crazy. This means, people who are "In love" are not always the best lovers... and if the feeling isn't mutual... the person who is, "In love" is left vulnerable to heartbreak. Heartbreak leaves the lover craving for more of the source of that euphoric Serotonin... like an addict, who has been cut off from their source of crack.
No, it isn't very romantic... but it is true.
Here's the definition of, "Emotion".
e·mo·tion (-mshn) n. 1. A mental state that arises spontaneously rather than through conscious effort and is often accompanied by physiological changes; a feeling: the emotions of joy, sorrow, reverence, hate, and love. 2. A state of mental agitation or disturbance: spoke unsteadily in a voice that betrayed his emotion. See Synonyms at feeling. 3. The part of the consciousness that involves feeling; sensibility: "The very essence of literature is the war between emotion and intellect" Isaac Bashevis Singer.
[French émotion, from Old French, from esmovoir, to excite, from Vulgar Latin *exmovre : Latin ex-, ex- + Latin movre, to move; see meu- in Indo-European roots.]
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Re: Emotions [Re: Rose]
#7062041 - 06/18/07 03:15 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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This means, people who are "In love" are not always the best lovers... and if the feeling isn't mutual... the person who is, "In love" is left vulnerable to heartbreak. Heartbreak leaves the lover craving for more of the source of that euphoric Serotonin... like an addict, who has been cut off from their source.
If the love isn't mutual then it wasn't real love in the first place. Also people feel jealousy for the reasons I specified earlier. When we lie to ourselves, when we're in denial, we can not think straight and then when we happen to fall in love we behave in an even more chaotic way.
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Rose
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MushroomTrip said: If the love isn't mutual then it wasn't real love in the first place.
Love is an emotion... no emotion requires TWO people to feel it, before it becomes real.
English is very limited when it comes to love... most languages use several nuanced words to describe different degrees of love. However... since we are stuck with just the one word... I will stand by my previous statement.
I love many things which are incapable of loving me back... nature... theatre... great video games...
The love is real.
I have loved many women, who never returned the emotion.
The love was real.
I have had women love me, and I could not return the feeling.
The love was real.
I have loved people while on stage.
The love was real.
If you feel it, and it is an emotion... it is real.
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Re: Emotions [Re: Rose]
#7062095 - 06/18/07 03:28 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, but did you also felt jealousy? And if you did, what were the reasons? As in your own mental process, step by step, which led you to feel jealousy. See, in my opinion, love has nothing to do with jealousy and if they happen in the same time it's incidental. They're not symbiotic.
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Rose
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Love is ONE emotion. You can feel OTHER emotions while feeling LOVE.
The play, "Othello" is a play about real love, and jealousy. In that play, the love was real... but jealousy got in the way... and we end up with two dead lovers... Othello and Desdemona.
Shakespeare didn't pull that plot out of his ass, he saw that sort of thing happen ALL THE TIME.
You can be in love, and AFRAID.
You can be in love, and feel JOY.
You can feel love AND jealousy at the same time. Serontonin makes one vulnerable to paranoia... and paranoia can lead to jealousy. It is a simple chemical reaction. Love is very much like being high... and love can easily lead you to a paranoid state.
Many young adults see the world the way you do... but by seeing the world in that light, you are also, redefining the words, "Emotion" and, "Love".
If we can't agree about what words mean, how can we have a discussion?
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Edited by Rose (06/18/07 03:54 PM)
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