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OfflineViveka
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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: FrenchSocialist]
    #7046550 - 06/14/07 03:13 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

No, the point is not about buying pot, it's about the fact that living in the US, under the conditions required of you in order to live here, contributes to the state of the world at large, whether you are growing pot, potatoes, kids, not growing anything at all, it doesn't matter. I'm suggesting it should be considered how every single one of our actions, or non-actions, affects the world.

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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: Viveka]
    #7046633 - 06/14/07 03:37 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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Viveka said:
No, the point is not about buying pot, it's about the fact that living in the US, under the conditions required of you in order to live here, contributes to the state of the world at large, whether you are growing pot, potatoes, kids, not growing anything at all, it doesn't matter. I'm suggesting it should be considered how every single one of our actions, or non-actions, affects the world.




I think you are ignoring matters of degree. I contribute mere pennies to Bush, under threat of imprisonment, and I actively speak against him. I think that distances me.

Seriously, saying I'm as bad as Bush because I pay taxes is like saying I'm as bad as a child molester because I pay taxes which go to prisons. The contribution is so indirect and countered by personal action as to be irrelevant.


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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: CureCat]
    #7046867 - 06/14/07 04:48 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

i dont like when music and politics mix. nothing wrong with musicians playing at rallies or demonstrations or whatever, or having lyrics about society, but when they start singing about specific people, parties, or the like, that's when it crosses the line and i want nothing to do with it. music to me is something that makes me happy, makes me think, not something that should shove propaganda down my throat. :thumbdown:


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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: nightkrawler]
    #7046986 - 06/14/07 05:32 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

in the next century everyone will be comparing the terrible deeds commited by whoever to george w bush. and everyone will be like can you believe we used to (insertwhatever) how barbaric....

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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: CureCat]
    #7047014 - 06/14/07 05:41 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I'm going to name drop here:

Trent Reznor is from a town very near my hometown. I am good friends with a guy whose family is friends with the Reznor family. Trent used to come over to their house all of the time. Also, Trent's dad is in a band with my friend's dad.

Small world.

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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: nightkrawler]
    #7048583 - 06/15/07 04:57 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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nightkrawler said:
i dont like when music and politics mix. nothing wrong with musicians playing at rallies or demonstrations or whatever, or having lyrics about society, but when they start singing about specific people, parties, or the like, that's when it crosses the line and i want nothing to do with it. music to me is something that makes me happy, makes me think, not something that should shove propaganda down my throat. :thumbdown:




Right on, and what's the point of hatin' on a puppet? Even Ron Paul is a puppet for the same hands.

Wake up people....

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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: Middleman]
    #7048631 - 06/15/07 05:49 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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Middleman said:
...Ron Paul is a puppet for the same hands.




:yesnod:

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