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Invisibleimplicitli
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Hit me with some libertarian propaganda
    #7023555 - 06/08/07 07:18 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

please?


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Re: Hit me with some libertarian propaganda [Re: implicitli]
    #7023562 - 06/08/07 07:23 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Hit me with some libertarian propaganda [Re: implicitli]
    #7023586 - 06/08/07 07:30 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

don't you read the threads here? :spank:


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Re: Hit me with some libertarian propaganda [Re: implicitli]
    #7023608 - 06/08/07 07:36 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Hit me with some libertarian propaganda [Re: implicitli]
    #7023669 - 06/08/07 07:55 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=25037

Generally two types of people tend to be libertarians--high school kids and those who never grew out of high school.


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Re: Hit me with some libertarian propaganda [Re: FrenchSocialist]
    #7023785 - 06/08/07 08:40 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTOQhPd2Xh4

libertarianism in 4 minutes, courtesy of Doug Stanhope. (ps he withdrew from the race, as he was unable to legally use money from his shows as campaign funds)


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Re: Hit me with some libertarian propaganda [Re: FrenchSocialist]
    #7023786 - 06/08/07 08:40 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

As opposed to the two types that are socialist. The anencephalic and those who never got out of grade school.


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Re: Hit me with some libertarian propaganda [Re: FrenchSocialist]
    #7023984 - 06/08/07 09:39 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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FrenchSocialist said:
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=25037

Generally two types of people tend to be libertarians--high school kids and those who never grew out of high school.




What a prickish thing to say.


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Re: Hit me with some libertarian propaganda [Re: FrenchSocialist]
    #7024134 - 06/08/07 10:16 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

FrenchSocialist said:
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=25037

Generally two types of people tend to be libertarians--high school kids and those who never grew out of high school.



I was a socialist in High School, before growing out of it.


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Re: Hit me with some libertarian propaganda [Re: Redstorm]
    #7025136 - 06/09/07 03:26 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Redstorm said:
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FrenchSocialist said:
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=25037

Generally two types of people tend to be libertarians--high school kids and those who never grew out of high school.




What a prickish thing to say.




Can't please everyone.


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Re: Hit me with some libertarian propaganda [Re: implicitli]
    #7025402 - 06/09/07 05:30 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

On another note, I have noticed an inverse correlation between libertarianism and religiosity. That is, I haven't met very many religious libertarians. While the left may be less religious than the right, I've met far more religious liberals than libertarians. It seems to me that the whole "natural rights" philosophy provides enough dogma to shut out any other inklings of spirituality.


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Re: Hit me with some libertarian propaganda [Re: Silversoul]
    #7025411 - 06/09/07 05:36 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

You seem smart enough to eventually grow out of this crap. :thumbup:

Not trying to insult you...but do you really think absolutely no coercion is really practical? Like no taxes, no regulations and no army? Because I really doubt it. Because as my friend EvilYeti once said:

Quote:

I think I'll make it a personal goal to secure the LP (Libertarian Party) nomination next year.

My platform will be as follows.

1. All citizens will be implanted with a device that allows them to kill anyone else merely by thinking about it.

2. All federal employees will be auctioned off to the general public as indentured servants. They will be credited one dollar a day for labor and they (and their offspring) will be considered bound until all the income tax ever collected is paid back.

3. Declare natural disasters an illegal initiation of force against Americans by nature, thereby preventing them from ever occuring again. Nature would never dare contradict LP dogma.

4. Issue every citizen a color inkjet printer and computer workstation, allowing the nations currency to be created under ideal free-market conditions.

5. Pay for all of this with a one-cent/gallon gasoline tax.




http://skepticalcommunity.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=122


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Re: Hit me with some libertarian propaganda [Re: FrenchSocialist]
    #7025420 - 06/09/07 05:40 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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FrenchSocialist said:
You seem smart enough to eventually grow out of this crap. :thumbup:



If by "crap" you mean libertarianism, I already have, just as I did with socialism.


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Re: Hit me with some libertarian propaganda [Re: Silversoul]
    #7025434 - 06/09/07 05:48 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think socialism is ideal. But I think as our population and technological ability grow it becomes inevitable:

"[The dignity of the human species] will be completely destroyed [if the population growth continues at its present rate]. I use what I call the bathroom metaphor: if two people live in an apartment and there are two bathrooms, then both have freedom of the bathroom. You can go to the bathroom anytime you want to stay as long as you like for whatever you need. But if you have twenty people in the apartment and two bathrooms, no matter how much every person believes in freedom of the bathroom, there is no such thing. You have to set up times for each person; you have to bang on the door, “Aren’t you done yet?” In the same way, democracy cannot survive overpopulation. Human dignity cannot survive. Convenience and decency can’t survive. As you put more and more people onto the world, the value of life not only declines, it disappears. It doesn’t matter if someone dies, the more people there are, the less one person matters. – Isaac Asimov as guest of Bill Moyers on PBS"


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Re: Hit me with some libertarian propaganda [Re: FrenchSocialist]
    #7025799 - 06/09/07 10:44 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

FrenchSocialist writes:

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Not trying to insult you...but do you really think absolutely no coercion is really practical? Like no taxes, no regulations and no army? Because I really doubt it.




Ah. No wonder you refer to Libertarians as high schoolers.... you believe Anarchists and Libertarians are equivalent. The better educated readers of this forum recognize the differences between the two.



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Re: Hit me with some libertarian propaganda [Re: Arp]
    #7025826 - 06/09/07 10:56 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Arp said:
don't you read the threads here? :spank:




Yup. That's why I asked you guys for help.


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Re: Hit me with some libertarian propaganda [Re: implicitli]
    #7025841 - 06/09/07 11:01 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for all of the links, guys, I'm dealing with dial-up right now while I visit my mom, but I want to take a page out of Arp's book and do something with my shroomery webspace. I thought an exploration of some libertarian principles would be neat.

I'm not promising to be fast, though - since I haven't even started learning html yet. And I don't know what else to look into to make a pretty, working webpage.

Someday. . .


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Re: Hit me with some libertarian propaganda [Re: FrenchSocialist]
    #7025931 - 06/09/07 11:39 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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FrenchSocialist said:
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=25037




interesting thread well worth reading :thumbup:


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Re: Hit me with some libertarian propaganda [Re: FrenchSocialist]
    #7026023 - 06/09/07 12:09 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)


I think I'll make it a personal goal to secure the LP (Libertarian Party) nomination next year.

My platform will be as follows.

1. All citizens will be implanted with a device that allows them to kill anyone else merely by thinking about it.

2. All federal employees will be auctioned off to the general public as indentured servants. They will be credited one dollar a day for labor and they (and their offspring) will be considered bound until all the income tax ever collected is paid back.

3. Declare natural disasters an illegal initiation of force against Americans by nature, thereby preventing them from ever occuring again. Nature would never dare contradict LP dogma.

4. Issue every citizen a color inkjet printer and computer workstation, allowing the nations currency to be created under ideal free-market conditions.

5. Pay for all of this with a one-cent/gallon gasoline tax.


:yawn:


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Re: Hit me with some libertarian propaganda [Re: wilshire]
    #7027117 - 06/09/07 07:05 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

she said hit. not poke :gethigh:


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