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200mg DMT session
    #7018933 - 06/07/07 11:28 AM (18 years, 20 days ago)

Completely inexplicable to say the least.

I "died"

It was very personalized; which I found to be strange.

It took many things from my life and turned them into a movie culminating in the unfolding of the universe in my head.

I highly recommend this high of a dose.

You WILL come back.

I promise.


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Re: 200mg DMT session [Re: Around In Circles]
    #7018938 - 06/07/07 11:31 AM (18 years, 20 days ago)

Let me note that I didn't see the self transforming machine elves.

I burst through all of the imagery and trans-mutating scenery of consciousness.

I feel as though I traveled through time to the last time I tripped this hard; which was on 8 grams of mushrooms.

I'm still in awe.


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Re: 200mg DMT session [Re: Around In Circles]
    #7018946 - 06/07/07 11:32 AM (18 years, 20 days ago)

How long in consensus reality did your trip last?


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Re: 200mg DMT session [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7018983 - 06/07/07 11:41 AM (18 years, 20 days ago)

The "movie" played out; eyes closed for about 5 minutes continuously.

Then I opened my eyes and slowly came back into my body via the top of my head.

I remember seeing myself sitting on my bed; in my head.

It was unbelievable.

I was prepared for it and didn't freak out.

I could see how some people would if they weren't ready for it.

I felt myself dissipate into pure photons with everything around me at one point.

Unbelievable.

It told me I created this universe and the movie was flooded with archetypal imagery. "DMT" kept on being said in the "movie" Along with family members and moments throughout my life.

I believe it was a NDE.


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Re: 200mg DMT session [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7018996 - 06/07/07 11:43 AM (18 years, 20 days ago)

pretty amazing huh :thumbup:

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Re: 200mg DMT session [Re: Divinatory]
    #7019019 - 06/07/07 11:49 AM (18 years, 20 days ago)

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Divinatory said:
pretty amazing huh :thumbup:




Have you had a similar experience?

I haven't talked to anyone that has experienced this kind of "personal movie" type of thing.

I'm very curious to hear from others about this.

Before I had only seen the incredible conscious energies/machine elves, but this went right through that to something very much more idiosyncratic and personalized.

It made me think a lot about NDEs.


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Re: 200mg DMT session [Re: Around In Circles]
    #7019023 - 06/07/07 11:50 AM (18 years, 20 days ago)

Wow. I have never done DMT - was thinking about having my first experience tomorrow, I have the DMT.

Question for you: How many times had you done it prior, at what dosages? You say you were "prepared" for it I just wonder how much experiential preparation youhad.

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Re: 200mg DMT session [Re: Around In Circles]
    #7019035 - 06/07/07 11:52 AM (18 years, 20 days ago)

i dont have a scale, so i just eye out my dmt doses. one time i put some extra in, maybe between 125-150mgs i'd estimate. mixed it with a tiny amount of weed. i didnt remember it at all. i only remember coming down from it, shaking, wondering what the fuck just happened to me. took me a solid 5 minutes of staring at the bowl in front of me to realize that i had smoked something.

i'd be very hesitant to smoke that much again. i stayed away from dmt for a couple months after that happened. while i don't really know if the weed was a factor in what had happened, i still don't think i would recommend that dose to anyone.

this is also coming from someone who has had a lot of experience tripping, and i take dmt pretty seriously. usually do it alone, meditate beforehand. i feel pretty comfortable with ego loss.

not trying to rain on your parade or anything, just want people to know that not all high dose experiences come out like yours did, and allow people to see both sides.


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Re: 200mg DMT session [Re: breakableweed]
    #7019070 - 06/07/07 12:00 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

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breakableweed said:
Wow. I have never done DMT - was thinking about having my first experience tomorrow, I have the DMT.

Question for you: How many times had you done it prior, at what dosages? You say you were "prepared" for it I just wonder how much experiential preparation youhad.





I had smoked it prior about 12-15 times.

I upped my doses as I went along.

It is very good to start small first, then gradually get "there"

And to the person who posted below this; I do agree with your opinion, but I had an experience such as yours before I broke through completely.

I agree that it can be absolutely terrifying, but once you realize that you will come back to base line in less than 10 minutes; you can enjoy the experience and take much more from it.

It is all about preparation.

I am a very experienced tripper as well.


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Re: 200mg DMT session [Re: nightkrawler]
    #7019079 - 06/07/07 12:02 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

yea i've had a very similar experience.

when i was actually born, I came out half way and then for some reason went back inside my mom, came out again and went back in, then finally came all the way out.

on one trip i had this exact feeling like i was being reborn again the same way i was actually born. i had sensations of wanting to be born but something was holding me back. and then the feeling of actually being born was overwhelming. from there I had a movie like experience, kinda hard to explain, but it was like each frame of the movie held a specific experience in my life and i was watching these frames at the speed they would actually be played on a real movie, but yet i saw and understood each frame. i was seeing the frames go by at lightspeeds, but it felt like i was reliving the frame for years. the peak ended at seeing myself smoke some DMT.

there's a lot more to it than that, but you get the idea. you can't really put a DMT trip into words..

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Re: 200mg DMT session [Re: Around In Circles]
    #7019110 - 06/07/07 12:09 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

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BrainFood said:

And to the person who posted below this; I do agree with your opinion, but I had an experience such as yours before I broke through completely. 

I agree that it can be absolutely terrifying, but once you realize that you will come back to base line in less than 10 minutes; you can enjoy the experience and take much more from it.

It is all about preparation.

I am a very experienced tripper as well.




the thing is, the higher the dose, the harder it is to remember coming out of it. when i come out of it, and am back in the world as i know it, i have to revisualize what happened so i remember it. i think, looking back on all my experiences, i'm not remembering the experiences themselves, i'm remembering the revisualization i've done of the experiences.

on my high dose experience of dmt, i know that i didn't know that i had smoked dmt. much like higher doses of other psychedelics, you forget that you ever took a drug. i've found that you can't really know that it's going to wear off, because time doesn't mean anything. you're in infinity. there's no such thing as wearing off, because there is only the "right now."


edit: after reading Polyrhythmanaut's post, i see more what you're talking about now. i've been there before, just not with DMT. keep up the reports :thumbup: . i dont want to derail the thread at all.


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Re: 200mg DMT session [Re: Around In Circles]
    #7019138 - 06/07/07 12:16 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

wow! that sounds very similar to my only trip that i would consider an NDE. It was a very naive undertaking at my age, as i was only 18 and completely unprepared. But i was blown away by your description of the "movie" created by your own personal life. Thats what i experienced on the climb up to, well, what i would later realize to be ego death. It was my first real trip and i had found the shrooms at my friend's horse stable. We ate a huge fist full each of half dried, golden capped cubes that were turning our teeth and tongues purple. I somehow managed to ride out the most terrifying hour of my life. time passed but only barely.
Right before i dissolved into some strange expanse of space filled with spinning fractals,( which i believed was death ) I saw every aspect of my conditioned identity in the space before me. My car, my girlfriend at the time, my pet lab, my house, my hopes and dreams, my bad repressed memories. they were all somehow visible in the endless space before me but slowly retreating into the void. This is where i learned humility. I fought and fought to hold on, as many do, and quickly recognized the futility of doing so. Then I was in this state of being where i pondered the nature of dualities, because in this place there were none. I though of my brother who joined the marines and was in Iraq ( this is back in 2001 after 9/11). In life i was a mess over him..i missed him dearly and worried for his life everyday. But here, i was at peace knowing that it doesn't matter because THIS is death..and it was amazing. I felt connected to everything passed and present and yet to come! Turned my life in a direction that i would have never predicted. I was completely reborn. Very bizarre.

thats the first Ive ever written about it because it was so hard to dilute with words. But with DMT? Can i expect that to happen in the first 10 seconds on a dose like you had? Ive been obsessed with DMT for about a year and half now but still haven't had the experience. I was aiming at 30 or 40 mgs my first time..with reservations haha. I cant even imagine the 200 mg leap. anyways, was that at all similar to your experience?
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Re: 200mg DMT session [Re: Polyrhythmanaut]
    #7019905 - 06/07/07 04:20 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

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But with DMT? Can i expect that to happen in the first 10 seconds on a dose like you had? Ive been obsessed with DMT for about a year and half now but still haven't had the experience. I was aiming at 30 or 40 mgs my first time..with reservations haha. I cant even imagine the 200 mg leap. anyways, was that at all similar to your experience?
-dave




It really is so extremely idiosyncratic that I cannot really put it to words.

The first few times I smoked I just felt like I was tripping with fractal imagery and visual shimmering. Closed eyes revealed a bright light, much like looking at the sun and then closing your eyes.

I had this about 5 times.

Then I got to the distinct visuals that keep moving toward you and through you; in the most amazing colors imaginable, with "alien" symbols of strange lettering and endless grids of energy. This gave way to the self-transforming machine-elves. These tried communicating and conveying a message to me.

I got those visuals for about 3-4 trips.

Then I got to my large dose.

Immediately after my second toke I sat down on my bed and put my head into my hands and began falling through the very fabric of time/space, like melting through a crack, as if I passed through a black hole. This falling, ever-moving spiral gave way to memories running in full reality, with communicating friends and relatives. I was shot back to the last time I tripped on 8 grams and it was as if I was really there again for about 30-35 seconds. As if the DMT allowed me to travel back in time to the last time I tripped that hard and had a DMT experience. This all astounded me, I believed "this is it, I did it this time, I've died, but; this is okay, this is amazing" I didn't give way to astonishment, I just continued to fall through this looping pattern of memories and scenes, as if I was floating.

In one of the visuals I had was that I melted completely back into pure photons with everything around me. I was connected with everything and it was very strange, because people began to walk on and through me.

It was absolutely amazing and I keep remembering more of it as I go on.

There was a being with the head of a mushroom, brown and quite small, he just kept saying, "Yes! You have figured it out, you did it! You figured it out" And it seemed as if he followed me throughout the imagery, along with friends and family who were "waiting" for me.

The whole thing was astonishingly real. People speak of breaking through and seeing the machine elves. Well the machine elves aren't exactly what I would call "real" As they seem to be a morphing shape of energy that communicates.

I saw actual people.

It was the most incredible experience of my life; coupled with the last time I was there. It grew in intensity with each moment for the better of 5 minutes. Then I was slowly sucked back into my body, my head in my hands; but now with my fingers through my hair.

I looked into the mirror and I was back.

Cheers.


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Re: 200mg DMT session [Re: Around In Circles]
    #7019981 - 06/07/07 04:46 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

Welcome to the spice club. :thumbup:

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Re: 200mg DMT session [Re: slamdunk]
    #7020248 - 06/07/07 06:22 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

just out of curiosity was this with extracted or synthetic DMT?

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Re: 200mg DMT session [Re: Divinatory]
    #7020298 - 06/07/07 06:32 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

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yea i've had a very similar experience.

when i was actually born, I came out half way and then for some reason went back inside my mom, came out again and went back in, then finally came all the way out.





  lmfao  :laugh:
  I have had a similar experience with your mom too but I wasn't being born  :crazy2:  lol just kidding bro

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Re: 200mg DMT session [Re: cpw1971]
    #7020425 - 06/07/07 07:05 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

^^^ HAHAH ohhh man :smile:

but wait, we're long lost bros remember!
you fucked mom!!?
how was she? pretty good I'm guessing :thumbup:

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Re: 200mg DMT session [Re: Divinatory]
    #7020471 - 06/07/07 07:15 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

hehe I was wondering if you were gonna say that lol

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Re: 200mg DMT session [Re: cpw1971]
    #7021248 - 06/07/07 10:41 PM (18 years, 20 days ago)

Another word of extreme caution-- I agree with the post author and others that this is what almost all would consider a herculean dose-- it's like 4x the "standard" full-effect amount... though of course it will vary from person to person, remember how extreme this amount is before you decide to attempt it... this isn't like eating a quarter of shrooms...

Just be careful, whatever you decide. This is some reality-shattering stuff at 50-75mg... 200mg is... well-- I'll leave my thoughts at at that....


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Re: 200mg DMT session [Re: coAsTal]
    #7021651 - 06/08/07 12:56 AM (18 years, 20 days ago)

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coAsTal said:
Another word of extreme caution-- I agree with the post author and others that this is what almost all would consider a herculean dose-- it's like 4x the "standard" full-effect amount... though of course it will vary from person to person, remember how extreme this amount is before you decide to attempt it... this isn't like eating a quarter of shrooms...

Just be careful, whatever you decide. This is some reality-shattering stuff at 50-75mg... 200mg is... well-- I'll leave my thoughts at at that....




good post,


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