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Re: opinions [Re: Innvertigo]
    #717683 - 07/02/02 09:03 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

I think you would be harder pressed to find an intelligent "right winger"...if your best example is Rush Limbaugh then we better just stop this debate now...

And just for the record the link you provided would hardly be considered an impartial and unbiased web site...."Welcome to LeftWatch.Com. This main purpose of this site is to debunk claims made by Leftists" "Debunk" apparently means warping the truth to their own means...although I agree Chomsky is guilty of this as well on occasion, but he is human after all...in other words, he has flaws like anybody else...but to say that he is not intelligent would simpy be not true. He is a professor at MIT...one the most respected schools in the world...I doubt they just give that kind of position to anybody.


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Re: opinions [Re: Rono]
    #717698 - 07/02/02 09:09 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

***I think you would be harder pressed to find an intelligent "right winger"...****

why do people assume if you dispise liberals then you are a right winger? I'm a libertarian that thinks liberals and conservatives are the opposite sides of the same coin and equally useless.

It's funny how Noam Chomsky is smart until he expresses his opinion on his leftist views. It goes to show you that you can read all the books in the world and still be stupid.


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Re: opinions [Re: Innvertigo]
    #717703 - 07/02/02 09:10 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

It shows you that your just bringing up other people, why don't you talk about the linguist you support, and his right wing political theory.


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Re: opinions [Re: nugsarenice]
    #717707 - 07/02/02 09:12 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

****It shows you that your just bringing up other people, why don't you talk about the linguist you support****

Who said that i support a linquist you dope?

****and his right wing political theory. ****

eh?..you dope


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Re: opinions [Re: Innvertigo]
    #717712 - 07/02/02 09:13 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

I'm just saying, you slamming this left wing linguist,, you label him a linguist,, and you are trying to argue against his work, without talking about his linguistic study.


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Re: opinions [Re: nugsarenice]
    #717716 - 07/02/02 09:15 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Does he even have a linguistic study book?


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Re: opinions [Re: Innvertigo]
    #717717 - 07/02/02 09:15 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

why do people assume if you dispise liberals then you are a right winger? I'm a libertarian that thinks liberals and conservatives are the opposite sides of the same coin and equally useless.
For the same reason people assume that I am a Left Wing person...I have no politcal affiliations whatsoever...I simply stated that in General I find "Left" wing people to be highly intelligent and well read.


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Re: opinions [Re: nugsarenice]
    #717720 - 07/02/02 09:16 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

****I'm just saying, you slamming this left wing linguist****

I'm not slamming him...that web site is.

***you label him a linguist***

Are you high right now? He is a linquist you dope.

****and you are trying to argue against his work, without talking about his linguistic study. ***

Rono and I aren't discussing his linquistics ability rather his leftist stances....keep up...


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Re: opinions [Re: Innvertigo]
    #717726 - 07/02/02 09:20 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

That reading sounds way too intelligent for me. Have you read any? Which book does he talk about math?


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Re: opinions [Re: Rono]
    #717732 - 07/02/02 09:22 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

***For the same reason people assume that I am a Left Wing person...I have no politcal affiliations whatsoever...I simply stated that in General I find "Left" wing people to be highly intelligent and well read. ****

I've seen quite the opposite in my observations. I see too many "enlightened" liberals and republicrates giving their opinions while there philosophical base crumbles beneath them. Being well read means nothing if you can't use common sense to make decisions. Liberals are the worst of the lot where they base every decision in their being on feelings. This is a road liberals take and those roads tend to smack right into a dead end. ie: Klinton.


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Re: opinions [Re: Innvertigo]
    #717739 - 07/02/02 09:23 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

He definitely has a poltical opinion different from the two party systems', because he believes that trade embargos are the wrong way towards world peace, and stopping war.


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Re: opinions [Re: nugsarenice]
    #717746 - 07/02/02 09:26 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

****That reading sounds way too intelligent for me****

you don't say....

****Have you read any? Which book does he talk about math? ****

I haven't the will nor interest. Liberals don't inspire me in the least...


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Re: opinions [Re: Innvertigo]
    #717771 - 07/02/02 09:41 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Innvertigo....

Trying to get a sensible response from nugs, is like trying to pull a full grown elephant out of a newborn baby?s ass. It just can't be done.

At least with Rono, while his opinions and view of the world are ludicrous at best, he at least can express them well and he writes a coherent sentence.

Thanks for the link on Chomsky, I?d seen some of his crap but to see so much of it in one place was amazingly informative.

Nugs, give up drugs for awhile, they?re not helping.


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Re: opinions [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #717810 - 07/02/02 10:00 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

***Trying to get a sensible response from nugs, is like trying to pull a full grown elephant out of a newborn baby?s ass***

true..i still don't know why i try....i wonder if it is our education system?

****At least with Rono, while his opinions and view of the world are ludicrous at best, he at least can express them well and he writes a coherent sentence****

true, and we haven't got personal with the insults, however i can't help but rip on nugs..he needs it

****Thanks for the link on Chomsky****

I think there should be a disclaimer when someone is perceived to be smart. Yes he's book smart but he's in the shallow end of the gene pool when it comes to common sense.


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Re: opinions [Re: Innvertigo]
    #717846 - 07/02/02 10:23 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

At least with Rono, while his opinions and view of the world are ludicrous at best, he at least can express them well and he writes a coherent sentence.

Luvdemshrooms, Although I appreciate the fact that you like my sentence structure...It would seem that a large percentage of the worlds population agree with my "ludicrous" views...considering you aren't exposed to anything outside of the heavily censored U.S. media, your opinion of me carries little weight.


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Re: opinions [Re: Rono]
    #717925 - 07/02/02 11:09 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

why do those that live outside the US always think that they are enlightened by their media? If you listen to the BBC it's just as trashy as CNN....


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Re: opinions [Re: Innvertigo]
    #717952 - 07/02/02 11:27 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Perhaps it is...but considering the U.S is censored, you need to rely on the media from the other countries for information on what the U.S. is REALLY like, since CNN won't broadcast anything that is "Anti-American". It's a sad fact, but it is true.


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Re: opinions [Re: Rono]
    #717958 - 07/02/02 11:30 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

The way I feel about corporate media is that is sometimes privately hijacked to promote ideas outside of what the corporation expects. Take for an example a small radio station that got bought out last year. They broadcasted the Nader, and Ventura interviews, no other station got that. But after it happened they were bought out, so that was a one time occurence. So now the only way to find out about these people is on the internet.


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Re: opinions [Re: Rono]
    #718047 - 07/02/02 12:28 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

That's why i don't get my information from CNN...but to say that CNN is any more useless than Canadian or the ever popular socialist slanted french media is absurd. As for CNN never being anti american that couldn't be further from the truth..you should know that.


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Re: opinions [Re: Rono]
    #718112 - 07/02/02 01:20 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

I think you would be harder pressed to find an intelligent "right winger"

There are quite a few, but they tend to be more libertarian than what is commonly passed off on the public as "conservative" these days. William F. Buckley is fairly intelligent. Milton Friedman is a Nobel Prize winner. The governor of New Mexico, Gary Johnson seems pretty intelligent.

I used to attend a local libertarian supper club in my area. The first time I had a friend go along with me, he noticed people's college rings on their fingers at our table, there were two graduates of MIT and one from Cal Tech seated with us. One of the founders of the Libertarian Party, David Nolan is a graduate of MIT. Robert Poole who used to edit Reason magazine is a graduate of MIT. Durk Pearson who my wife met at a libertarian function, graduated from MIT with a degree in physics and enough extra credits for degrees in biology and psychology as well. I would be willing to wager any amount of money that the average I.Q. of Libertarians is higher than that of Democrats, Republicans, Socialists, Greens, Reform Party members, Natural Law Party members or Communists.


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