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Offlinehongomon
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    #701769 - 06/25/02 07:33 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

Just wondering, how do you guys form your opinions? How do you test your opinions out to be sure they're good?

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Re: opinions [Re: hongomon]
    #701849 - 06/25/02 08:12 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

Generally from observations and learing about life. For instance when I met a cattle rancher from texas with a 5,000 acre rance that makes $45 per acre and the taxes he has to pay on his land are $38 an acre just from the property tax and he sold his ranch because the taxes were too damned high I learned that high taxes are bad for business. Low taxes make people prosperous and the economy grow, high taxes make people lose their farms and companies.


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Re: opinions [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #701969 - 06/25/02 09:44 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

I ask my mom.


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Re: opinions [Re: hongomon]
    #702032 - 06/25/02 10:57 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

thas a a pretty general question, let's take mary j want to, as an example. I was born, then I went to school, then I met my unclen when I was 11, who has very long hair, beard, (like god, I seen pictures of god before this time) was very good at the guitar, was very funny, had a young attractive girlfriend, had the big vw bus, not the trendy one, and yeah. So then I formed an opinon that I like people with long hair,who play the guitar, and drive vw bus, cuz I don't like my parents, the petifile, murder, money oriented, etc. , so I guess you can tell where the rest went, all up to present day, where I don't really trust anyone who does'nt smoke, I do have friends who don't smoke, but they support my right of indian heritage, so we still chill, do stuff like hackeysack.


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Re: opinions [Re: hongomon]
    #702166 - 06/26/02 03:00 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

I think this is a test. If so, I didn't study.
How do I form my opinions? Rational thought, reason, with my basic premise, ALWAYS, individual liberty. I disagree with my parents with just about everything, but I bow to their, much greater, life experience than I and so I listen to them.

I abhore ignorance, especialy in myself, so I read everything that I can relating to whatever it is that I have a question on; if the FBI actually does monitor reading habits at the library then I am driving them nuts.

I listen to other people's opinions but reserve the right to reject them out of hand if they are not considerate of a rational stance. Meaning, the statement "it's my opinion and I have a right to it" is no exercise in rational consideration of any argument and I would dismiss this statement out of hand. It is a must that one consider WHERE they got their opinion, just because you have the right to have one, does not make that opinion correct.

It is also not relevant that I respect your opinion. I may respect your person, but not your ignorance, that is my right.

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Re: opinions [Re: hongomon]
    #716590 - 07/01/02 07:00 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

I have a basic moral precept which governs and colors all my opinions of political philosophy. It is this, it is wrong to initiate the use of physical force to achieve political or social goals. I couple this with an adherence to rational thought processes in an examination of the possible consequences (especially unintended consequences) that can be shown or deduced as resulting from any state policy or activity.

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Re: opinions [Re: hongomon]
    #717502 - 07/02/02 07:46 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

****Just wondering, how do you guys form your opinions****

I form my opinions through common sense with a foundation structure of individual rights. If a situation presents itself whereas it contradicts this foundation then i oppose it.

****How do you test your opinions out to be sure they're good? ***

I look at things with my mind, NOT with my feelings that is how i find out if they are good. The quickest way to have your opinions faulter is to base them on your heart instead of your brain. Therefore I back up my opinions with research and basic human thought process, that sooooo many people (liberals) lack


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Re: opinions [Re: Innvertigo]
    #717568 - 07/02/02 08:15 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

Therefore I back up my opinions with research and basic human thought process, that sooooo many people (liberals) lack
That's a pretty broad not to mention extremely inaccurate statement...I've found "Liberals" to be the most intelligent people I've ever met..they are usually very well read, and up to date on world events..not just what is happening in their own city.


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Re: opinions [Re: Rono]
    #717605 - 07/02/02 08:31 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

****I've found "Liberals" to be the most intelligent people I've ever met..they are usually very well read, and up to date on world events..not just what is happening in their own city****

Name one


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Re: opinions [Re: Innvertigo]
    #717618 - 07/02/02 08:34 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

Noam Chomsky


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Re: opinions [Re: Rono]
    #717634 - 07/02/02 08:42 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

if he's a liberal he can't be smart..that was my point


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Re: opinions [Re: Innvertigo]
    #717639 - 07/02/02 08:44 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

you ever seen linguistic research invert?

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Re: opinions [Re: Rono]
    #717643 - 07/02/02 08:45 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

I'm sure you'll like this site then

http://www.leftwatch.com/FAQ/People/noam_chomsky.html


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Re: opinions [Re: nugsarenice]
    #717646 - 07/02/02 08:46 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

you're the wrong person to be discussing research you dope.


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Re: opinions [Re: Innvertigo]
    #717648 - 07/02/02 08:47 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

I never seen chomsky's.

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Re: opinions [Re: nugsarenice]
    #717650 - 07/02/02 08:47 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

well here's your chance you dope


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Re: opinions [Re: ]
    #717652 - 07/02/02 08:49 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

Isak Asimove in one of his books use to say.
"The use of force or violence, is the recourse of the incompetent"


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Re: opinions [Re: Innvertigo]
    #717656 - 07/02/02 08:50 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

that does'nt mention any of his linguistic studies.

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Re: opinions [Re: Rono]
    #717657 - 07/02/02 08:50 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

.......Noam Chomsky, a linguist at the Massachussetts Institute of Technology, revolutionized linguistics with his innatist theory of language, but he is perhaps best known for his left wing political views. Although rarely receiving much attention from mainstream media, Chomsky is an icon on college campuses and within the radical political movement which formed from the ashes of the New Left.

There is plenty of material on the web about Chomsky, but unfortunately almost all of it is bland hero worship which ignores the fact that while Chomsky is certainly right about many things, he is wrong about numerous others and is ultimately not all that far from those he subjects to intense scrutiny and criticism.

This page contains original essays pointing out some of Chomsky?s factual errors and his tendency to not apply the same standards to the Left that he applies (for the most part correctly) to the Right........

use my link to get more


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Re: opinions [Re: nugsarenice]
    #717664 - 07/02/02 08:53 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

you were dropped as a kid...weren't you?


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