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really need some help and info here....
    #7011520 - 06/05/07 01:10 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Okay, I am hoping to get an answer to this post before i go out and buy uneeded items... i wanna grow again and wanna do it this weekend... except i am confused on which method to use...

I have tried corn and 60/40 casing

I would like to try wild bird seed ---except--- i am not sure to use the Alien method for substrate and casings

or

should i just go with wild bird seed and use jiffy mix for a casing??? i wanted to try Miracle grow moisture control but not sure which is better jiffy mix or the Miracle grow moisture control..

please help thanks..


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Re: really need some help and info here.... [Re: tony8404]
    #7011526 - 06/05/07 01:14 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

GO with wbs, more people have used this method and if you have questions theyll be awensered quickly and you can be sure that your given the right info.


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Re: really need some help and info here.... [Re: tony8404]
    #7011527 - 06/05/07 01:14 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I would do bird seed. I would fill a jar with 280 ml bird seed and 140 ml water and let sit for 24 hours and then pc. Spawn to poo and reap rewards.


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Re: really need some help and info here.... [Re: budmanman]
    #7011535 - 06/05/07 01:17 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

okay i will go with bird seed but i dont do the poo thing sorry,...

but if i go with the birdseed should i just use the jiffy mix or miracle grow moisutre control or should i go with aliens casing formula?


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Re: really need some help and info here.... [Re: tony8404]
    #7011547 - 06/05/07 01:22 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)



You gots to be down with the doo doo.


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Re: really need some help and info here.... [Re: budmanman]
    #7011559 - 06/05/07 01:28 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

So what should i do for casing?

1. Jiffy mix
2. Miracle grow moisture control
3. Aliens casing formula ---just incase here is the link to the formula http://www.shroomery.org/9036/Alien-Substrate-Formula


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Re: really need some help and info here.... [Re: tony8404]
    #7011570 - 06/05/07 01:34 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

bird seed is not going to work very well AS a substrate. to get good results from it, you're going to need to spawn it to something (poo, straw, coir). or use rye instead of wbs


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Re: really need some help and info here.... [Re: fish42]
    #7011587 - 06/05/07 01:42 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

So what should i do for casing?

1. Jiffy mix
2. Miracle grow moisture control
3. Aliens casing formula ---just incase here is the link to the formula http://www.shroomery.org/9036/Alien-Substrate-Formula


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Re: really need some help and info here.... [Re: tony8404]
    #7012470 - 06/05/07 06:28 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Not one or 2, and i dont know about 3. but read this http://www.shroomery.org/55/60-40-Vermiculite-and-Coco-Coir-Casing-Tek

Definatkly what i would case with:grin:


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Re: really need some help and info here.... [Re: budmanman]
    #7012934 - 06/05/07 08:18 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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I would do bird seed. I would fill a jar with 280 ml bird seed and 140 ml water and let sit for 24 hours and then pc. Spawn to poo and reap rewards.




That's bad advice, sorry. You want to soak the birdseed completely. Endospores that are heat resistant (i.e. cannot be pressure cooked away) need to hatch and become vulnerable. Filling jars up halfway with water means half the WBS will be inoculated with active bacteria inside. Not a good thing.

jccc...jiffy mix is just peat. Should accomplish the task at hand, mixed with verm, no?


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Re: really need some help and info here.... [Re: CaptainLinger]
    #7013217 - 06/05/07 09:55 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

yeh but i was going off the fact that he didnt say mixing with verm....but if he does... sure

Also when you let it soak in jars you cant just drain and pc....

you need to pour it all out and rinse one more time...this rinses of 'the slime' that is on the seeds if you dont rinse this slime off it will deffinatlly slow colonization


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Re: really need some help and info here.... [Re: jccc]
    #7013358 - 06/05/07 10:23 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

so if i go with birdseed and the jiffy mix what do i add or use with the jiffy mix?


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Re: really need some help and info here.... [Re: tony8404]
    #7013402 - 06/05/07 10:32 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You should add vermiculite. Jiffy mix/verm. as the casing and if your going to spawn spawn to your prefrence.(straw and poo :headbanger:)


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Re: really need some help and info here.... [Re: jccc]
    #7013426 - 06/05/07 10:37 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

what about hydrated lime and oyster shells


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Re: really need some help and info here.... [Re: tony8404]
    #7014827 - 06/06/07 09:16 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

yeh youll nedd the lime to adjust your ph level....

also while your out buy a ph level measurment device


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Re: really need some help and info here.... [Re: jccc]
    #7015294 - 06/06/07 01:12 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

will i need to add crushed oyster shells??


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Re: really need some help and info here.... [Re: tony8404]
    #7015299 - 06/06/07 01:14 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

bah it's not rocket science, and all that really isn't needed, if you get jiffy mix with vermiculite you have a perfect casing layer and you have to mix nothing...

and Lyme, not the lime, the fruit, but lymestone powder, i think i've even seen it spelled Lhym, and Lhime, to avoid confusion.

I have excellent success using straight vermiculite.


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