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Australian astronomers expect Martian invasion
    #7003211 - 06/03/07 02:55 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Australian astronomers expect Martian invasion

* 23 February 2007
* From New Scientist Print Edition.

Australia's astronomers are expecting an invasion from Mars. In a poll, fewer than half of respondents said they trust NASA to protect Earth from organisms brought here in Martian soil.

Sarah Joyce and colleagues at the University of Western Australia in Perth polled 74 people belonging to four Australian astronomical societies about a NASA mission that aims to return soil from Mars after 2020.

Only 36 of the astronomers had "complete confidence" that NASA would protect Earth from contamination - while 1 in 10 had no confidence at all. And more than a fifth do not believe that NASA will "honestly inform the public of the risks" of the mission (Advances in Space Research, DOI: 10.1016/j.asr.2007.02.009).

"NASA must realise the importance of international risk communication," says Joyce.
From issue 2592 of New Scientist magazine, 23 February 2007, page 5


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Re: Australian astronomers expect Martian invasion [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #7003224 - 06/03/07 03:00 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

WTF!?!?!?!?!?!?


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Re: Australian astronomers expect Martian invasion [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #7003272 - 06/03/07 03:22 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah :lol: WTF seems the right thing to say.


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Re: Australian astronomers expect Martian invasion [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #7003291 - 06/03/07 03:28 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah I expect NASA is going to start an outdoor garden with the soil or start a new brand of potting soil and distribute it at Wal*Mart. :lol:

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Re: Australian astronomers expect Martian invasion [Re: Ellezdey]
    #7003311 - 06/03/07 03:35 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

The Bush administration has severely tainted any honesty that the U.S. government once had. I completely agree in that, as things are right now, I wouldn't trust any U.S. agency to accurately inform the world of anything.

Hopefully, with the election, we will finally get an administration interested in something other than personal pride. Even still, it will take a long time to earn back any credibility as far as the rest of the world is concerned.


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Re: Australian astronomers expect Martian invasion [Re: funknsoul]
    #7003326 - 06/03/07 03:40 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

So, what exactly is NASA suspossed to inform the world regarding? :what:

What does Bush have to do with anything, as well? :wtf:


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Re: Australian astronomers expect Martian invasion [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7003391 - 06/03/07 03:53 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Apparently they are afraid NASA won't inform the world about anything in the martian soil that could be harmful to us here on earth, or they won't discover the problem.

I only mentioned Bush because I think his administration has severely lessened the world's trust in any U.S. agency. Decades ago, I don't believe scientists in other parts of the would would expect NASA to flat out lie or make a huge mistake.

I do not agree that NASA is anything to worry about as they have no political agenda, and I do agree that NASA and Bush really don't have anything to do with each other. But I can see why these people are so untrusting... the mistrust is just poorly placed.


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Re: Australian astronomers expect Martian invasion [Re: funknsoul]
    #7003414 - 06/03/07 03:58 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Well, I think NASA is pretty distinct from most government agencies in that regard. As far as Australia's astronomers are concerned, it is easy for them to have no confidence when they aren't the ones engaging in these kinds of missions. Maybe they are jealous. :wink:


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Re: Australian astronomers expect Martian invasion [Re: funknsoul]
    #7003694 - 06/03/07 05:17 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

funknsoul said:
The Bush administration has severely tainted any honesty that the U.S. government once had. I completely agree in that, as things are right now, I wouldn't trust any U.S. agency to accurately inform the world of anything.

Hopefully, with the election, we will finally get an administration interested in something other than personal pride. Even still, it will take a long time to earn back any credibility as far as the rest of the world is concerned.




you are a moron, not everything wrong with the world is bushs fault.

freakin dem liberals


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Re: Australian astronomers expect Martian invasion [Re: Leanin]
    #7004095 - 06/03/07 06:49 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

enviornmental contamination from another world is a very legitimate concern.


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Re: Australian astronomers expect Martian invasion [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #7004171 - 06/03/07 07:03 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Meanwhile, China covers up the initial outbreak of SARS and almost causes a worldwide pandemic before the rest of the world figures it out. But let's not criticise China. Unlike NASA, they keep our Walmarts full of cheap stuff.

BTW, this belongs in S&T, not news. I'm moving it there.


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Re: Australian astronomers expect Martian invasion [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #7004198 - 06/03/07 07:12 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Wow you Americans sure do cry allot..... :lol::crying:

Jesus Christ it's just a news story.


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Re: Australian astronomers expect Martian invasion [Re: Leanin]
    #7004368 - 06/03/07 08:02 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Hmm I disagree look how fucking bad it has got since bush came into office. Not everything is his fault but a majority of the problems the usa is having is bush's fault. Shit terriosists probably wouldn't have attacked if we wouldn't have elected the son of the man who started the previous war in iraq to be president.


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Re: Australian astronomers expect Martian invasion [Re: jeverden]
    #7004409 - 06/03/07 08:11 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Guys, this would be a great debate if the thing being debated wasn't absolute nonsense. The samples brought back spend their entire life after being picked up off Mars in a perfectly sealed and controlled environment. There is no plausible way that a Martian bacteria could live on Earth. The Oxygen alone would probably kill it ( Oxygen is quite dangerous to most things, the reason we breathe it is because its so reactive), then the fact that the other 70something percent of the atmosphere is COMPLETELY INERT. The fact of the matter is that the US Govn't could lie out their ass as they usually do and we wont be in any more or less danger than usual.


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Re: Australian astronomers expect Martian invasion [Re: TheConman]
    #7005161 - 06/03/07 10:41 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Guys, this would be a great debate if the thing being debated wasn't absolute nonsense. The samples brought back spend their entire life after being picked up off Mars in a perfectly sealed and controlled environment.




Thats what I was thinking, I think the greatest risk of contamination will be re-entry. Besides do you know how valuable this stuff is gunna be, no one but Nasa is gunna get their hands on it.


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Re: Australian astronomers expect Martian invasion [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #7005385 - 06/03/07 11:36 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I found
this related information interesting as well.


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Re: Australian astronomers expect Martian invasion [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #7005664 - 06/04/07 12:42 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Actually, the real danger is of us contaminating Mars. NASA takes great pains to make sure everything sent there is sterile. Introducing Earth bugs would fuck up future experiments.


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Re: Australian astronomers expect Martian invasion [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #7006825 - 06/04/07 11:26 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Wow you American sure do cry allot.....
Jesus Christ it's just a news story.




I happen to resent that statement. Just a news story? That's not news. Thats not even close to news. News should consist of relevent, and accurate information. It's definetely not accurate, anyone who fears of a martain invasion needs to be removed from whatever position they hold, shot, and threw in a big, deep hole in the ground because they are not mentally stable enough to co-exist with normal people.

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Re: Australian astronomers expect Martian invasion [Re: jdirty]
    #7008350 - 06/04/07 05:29 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

NASA isn't anything to be worried about and this article is ridiculous. However, even if it is a ridiculous thing, there is a reason why NASA is coming under that kind of wild scrutiny at this point in time. It's not like they have a history of being untrustworty. I don't think they've ever sided with martians before.

Leanin: Who blamed Bush for everything? I blamed his -administration- as a whole for one thing, dishonesty. I'm a moron and your projecting a whole bunch of shit you've apparently heard others say onto me? Right buddy.


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Re: Australian astronomers expect Martian invasion [Re: Leanin]
    #7009458 - 06/04/07 09:41 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Leanin said:
Quote:

funknsoul said:
The Bush administration has severely tainted any honesty that the U.S. government once had. I completely agree in that, as things are right now, I wouldn't trust any U.S. agency to accurately inform the world of anything.

Hopefully, with the election, we will finally get an administration interested in something other than personal pride. Even still, it will take a long time to earn back any credibility as far as the rest of the world is concerned.




you are a moron, not everything wrong with the world is bushs fault.

freakin dem liberals




Why do you bash all liberals just cuz one guy says something you think is dumb? i don't think all republicans have nausea just cuz Bush Sr. barfed on some Japanese dude.


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