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Re: Earths elliptical orbit ... [Re: backfromthedead]
    #7016224 - 06/06/07 04:21 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

the ellipse is maybe like 1 or 2 % off of being a "true circle"...
mostly due to the gravitational influence of jupiter (almost a failed star (& of course, in a c clarke's _2001_ series, the obelisk(s) did ignite the big boy into another sun for our local system (& our instructions were to leave europa alone, 'cus the locals there had, ummm, "potential" eh?))

& ol' pluto (& its fellow-traveller charon) may be more of a captured comet-type snowball, with its marked elliptical orbit & tilt offa th' ecliptic plane & all that, mmmm?

(& heinlein used it for an advance base for the nasty wormfaces in his excellent juvi novel _have spacesuit, will travel_)


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Re: Earths elliptical orbit ... [Re: backfromthedead]
    #7017885 - 06/07/07 01:26 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

It's about earths axis-bent, but it's not the distance, that matters to summer and winter, but the angle of the sun rays.
If they hit earth surface in an 90 degree angle, they heat up earth the most.


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Re: Earths elliptical orbit ... [Re: backfromthedead]
    #7029474 - 06/10/07 09:16 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm lost but, since earth is tilted ~23 degrees on its axis...
Summer is the experience of being physically closer to the sun.
Tilted towards the sun, depending on where you are located not IMO, because we are actually closer due to an elliptical orbit.




But the earth takes a turn around its axis each day..

Would it not then be all seasons in one day, like at/on equator?


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Re: Earths elliptical orbit ... [Re: Gomp]
    #7029596 - 06/10/07 10:17 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

It doesn't wobble on its axis each day.



See how the earth on the left is tilted towards the sun?? (northern hemisphere)
It still spins true to the axis, but since the north is closer to the sun its summer.
The earth on the right is the opposite...  Winter.
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Re: Earths elliptical orbit ... [Re: Gomp]
    #7030279 - 06/10/07 02:17 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Did you graduate from high school??????

This is basic stuff


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Re: Earths elliptical orbit ... [Re: niteowl]
    #7030397 - 06/10/07 02:47 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

:shocked:LOL!!  Sorry.:crazy:

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Re: Earths elliptical orbit ... [Re: backfromthedead]
    #7030869 - 06/10/07 05:33 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

That was for Gomp.......not you  :bouncysmoke:


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Re: Earths elliptical orbit ... [Re: niteowl]
    #7032740 - 06/11/07 08:28 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I realize that.  I was actually apologizing to Gomp for you calling him stupid.:tongue:


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Re: Earths elliptical orbit ... [Re: backfromthedead]
    #7032805 - 06/11/07 09:11 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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It doesn't wobble on its axis each day.



See how the earth on the left is tilted towards the sun?? (northern hemisphere)
It still spins true to the axis, but since the north is closer to the sun its summer.
The earth on the right is the opposite...  Winter.
:confused:




Hum... Interesting!

I am starting to grasp this...

So, the earth does not take one spin around its own axis every day, at all?

I cannot understand why I cannot grasp this, but no teacher have ever bothered staying with me long enough.. I never intend on assuming, so I really need to get it in with a tea spoon...

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Re: Earths elliptical orbit ... [Re: Gomp]
    #7032902 - 06/11/07 09:46 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Gomp: "So, the earth does not take one spin around its own axis every day, at all?"

You are fucking with me??


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Re: Earths elliptical orbit ... [Re: backfromthedead]
    #7032907 - 06/11/07 09:49 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Why do you think he is? :lol:


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Re: Earths elliptical orbit ... [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7032910 - 06/11/07 09:51 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Yes and no.:thumbup::thumbdown:


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Re: Earths elliptical orbit ... [Re: backfromthedead]
    #7032917 - 06/11/07 09:53 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Glad we cleared that up :thumbup:


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Re: Earths elliptical orbit ... [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7032942 - 06/11/07 10:01 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Richard Dawkins on page 97 in his book The God Delusion says that one particular pulsar spins on its axis every 1.33 seconds. Then he says imagine if our days last for 1.33 seconds instead of 24 hours.

I got the impression that he was saying the sun takes 24 hours to rotate on its axis and that's why we have a 24-hour day.

Am I wrong?. I am damn confused


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Re: Earths elliptical orbit ... [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7032959 - 06/11/07 10:09 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Clear??


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Re: Earths elliptical orbit ... [Re: backfromthedead]
    #7032977 - 06/11/07 10:16 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Gomp!!  Are you tea spoonin around??:sad:


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Re: Earths elliptical orbit ... [Re: shakercee]
    #7033144 - 06/11/07 11:14 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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shakercee said:
Richard Dawkins on page 97 in his book The God Delusion says that one particular pulsar spins on its axis every 1.33 seconds. Then he says imagine if our days last for 1.33 seconds instead of 24 hours.

I got the impression that he was saying the sun takes 24 hours to rotate on its axis and that's why we have a 24-hour day.

Am I wrong?. I am damn confused




You are wrong!

The earth rotates on it's axis every 24 hours. It's axis is tilted, that is why we have different seasons.

The sun takes about 10 hours to make a rotation.


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Re: Earths elliptical orbit ... [Re: backfromthedead]
    #7033493 - 06/11/07 12:56 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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backfromthedead said:
Gomp: "So, the earth does not take one spin around its own axis every day, at all?"

You are fucking with me??




That is what I always get, hence;
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... but no teacher have ever bothered staying with me long enough..




No, kind sir, I am not...

It took me years to grasp how the moon orbits the earth, and I still cannot fully grasp it...

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Re: Earths elliptical orbit ... [Re: niteowl]
    #7033500 - 06/11/07 12:59 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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You are wrong!

The earth rotates on it's axis every 24 hours. It's axis is tilted, that is why we have different seasons.

The sun takes about 10 hours to make a rotation.




Then explain to me, (..and please do mind the fact that i got the mind of a 3 year old.) ...
How is it not all 4 seasons in one day, if that is the case?

[Like it is at equator.]

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Re: Earths elliptical orbit ... [Re: Gomp]
    #7033525 - 06/11/07 01:06 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I got a kick out of this but it might help...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuiQvPLWziQ

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