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Do cakes spawn faster in the dark or light?
    #7003840 - 06/03/07 04:02 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I want the little f'ers to PIN!!!


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Re: Do cakes spawn faster in the dark or light? [Re: XxWaltarxX]
    #7004078 - 06/03/07 04:45 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

You question doesn't match your title. What are you trying to ask?
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Re: Do cakes spawn faster in the dark or light? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7004136 - 06/03/07 04:55 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

your cake isnt going to fruit untill its fully colonized
the spawn will run best in the dark...


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Re: Do cakes spawn faster in the dark or light? [Re: LesChanga]
    #7004543 - 06/03/07 06:45 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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LesChanga said:
your cake isnt going to fruit untill its fully colonized
the spawn will run best in the dark...


Thats what I needed to know.


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Re: Do cakes spawn faster in the dark or light? [Re: XxWaltarxX]
    #7004679 - 06/03/07 07:16 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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the spawn will run best in the dark...



Normal room lighting has no effect on colonizing mycelium, either good or bad. This is one of the old myths perpetuated by stamets 'The Mushroom Cultivator', that was incorrect 20 years ago when it was written. He corrected his own mistake in GGMM, but fewer people have read that one because it centers more on edibles, than on psilocybe mushrooms. My own research says light doesn't make one whit of difference to colonizing mycelium in jars.

The time to protect from light is during spawn run of bulk substrates and casing layers. During the initial colonization of grains or brf cakes, it doesn't matter.
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Re: Do cakes spawn faster in the dark or light? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7005077 - 06/03/07 08:24 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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the spawn will run best in the dark...



Normal room lighting has no effect on colonizing mycelium, either good or bad. This is one of the old myths perpetuated by stamets 'The Mushroom Cultivator', that was incorrect 20 years ago when it was written. He corrected his own mistake in GGMM, but fewer people have read that one because it centers more on edibles, than on psilocybe mushrooms. My own research says light doesn't make one whit of difference to colonizing mycelium in jars.

The time to protect from light is during spawn run of bulk substrates and casing layers. During the initial colonization of grains or brf cakes, it doesn't matter.
RR


Light only matters, then in the growth of shrooms right after pinning, correct?


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Re: Do cakes spawn faster in the dark or light? [Re: XxWaltarxX]
    #7005395 - 06/03/07 09:38 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Incorrect. Light is required for primordia formation as well.
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Re: Do cakes spawn faster in the dark or light? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7006367 - 06/04/07 03:40 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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the spawn will run best in the dark...



Normal room lighting has no effect on colonizing mycelium, either good or bad. This is one of the old myths perpetuated by stamets 'The Mushroom Cultivator', that was incorrect 20 years ago when it was written. He corrected his own mistake in GGMM, but fewer people have read that one because it centers more on edibles, than on psilocybe mushrooms. My own research says light doesn't make one whit of difference to colonizing mycelium in jars.

The time to protect from light is during spawn run of bulk substrates and casing layers. During the initial colonization of grains or brf cakes, it doesn't matter.
RR




So how does that work? Why is some kinds of colonisation not affected by light while bulk substrate colonisation is?


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Re: Do cakes spawn faster in the dark or light? [Re: Nibin]
    #7006568 - 06/04/07 07:01 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Bulk substrate colonization is the last step prior to fruiting. The only reason for keeping a bulk substrate, and especially the casing layer dark during colonization is for the timing of the pinset initiation. It allows you to introduce all the major pinning triggers simultaneously, resulting in an explosion of pins. A bulk substrate will colonize just fine if exposed to light from day one, but then you aren't maximizing potential by synchronizing the pinning triggers.
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