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OfflineElectricGnome
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jar question.... both are 1/2 pint but.....
    #699843 - 06/25/02 09:35 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

ok as you see i am new... anyway i have 1/2 pints 2 kinds...wide mouth 1/2 pints and the Tapered 1/2 pints. what is the difference other than the wide mouths are really really wide, so they aren?t as tall, they both are wider at the top. so which ones are better to use? any help would be appreciated.

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Re: jar question.... both are 1/2 pint but..... [Re: ElectricGnome]
    #699918 - 06/25/02 10:27 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

There is 1/2 pint Tall and 1/2 wide-mouth (which are shorter and wider) Both are the equal amount of volume. However, IMO the wide mouths colonize faster because there is more 'surface' area then the taller ones. I've had great success with both tho but I like the wide mouths because they are 'smaller'.


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Re: jar question.... both are 1/2 pint but..... [Re: ElectricGnome]
    #699930 - 06/25/02 10:35 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I've used both too. And like goolag said the shorter ones did colonize faster. However I like the tall ones better because I can fit 10 jars in my fish tank. With the short ones I can only fit 6.


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Re: jar question.... both are 1/2 pint but..... [Re: goolag]
    #699931 - 06/25/02 10:35 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Two containers of equal volume have the same internal surface area!

One compelling reason to go with the wide-mouths is that they'll produce cakes with a wider base which adds stability when they're birthing (if you're not casing).

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Re: jar question.... both are 1/2 pint but..... [Re: psyconaut]
    #700012 - 06/25/02 11:22 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

>Two containers of equal volume have the same internal surface area!

Is this so?
I think you are inventing new math here....


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Re: jar question.... both are 1/2 pint but..... [Re: Anno]
    #700029 - 06/25/02 11:31 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

hmm.... i don?t know........the surface area of the jars should be the same but if you mean surface area of the cakes.... then i?m not sure becuase the widemouth seems like it would have more area on that side...... hmmmmm now i think about it out loud as i write i?m thinking they all have the same surface area no matter what!
hmmmm.....something to think about.......



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Re: jar question.... both are 1/2 pint but..... [Re: ElectricGnome]
    #700036 - 06/25/02 11:35 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

forgot to add...... thanks for the advice on the cans. Most appreciated.

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Re: jar question.... both are 1/2 pint but..... [Re: ElectricGnome]
    #700073 - 06/25/02 11:46 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Let?s take 2 cylinders.
The first has a radus of 1 inch, and a height of 5 inches.
The volume of this cylinder is 1^2 *PI * 5 = 15,708 cubic inches.
It?s inner surface is 2*1*PI*5 + 2*1^2*PI = 37,699 square inches.

The second has double that radius, 2 inches, but it?s only 1.25 inches high.

The volume of this cylinder is 2^2 *PI * 1.25 = 15,708 cubic inches.
It?s inner surface is 2*2*PI*1.25 + 2*2^2*PI = 40.841 square inches.


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Re: jar question.... both are 1/2 pint but..... [Re: Anno]
    #700134 - 06/25/02 12:04 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

good calculations my friend!
basically the same. it is just an eye / mental illusion.


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Re: jar question.... both are 1/2 pint but..... [Re: ElectricGnome]
    #700177 - 06/25/02 12:24 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

If you are using the pf double ended casing tek. then ultimately the skinny ones will have more surface area. But on the downside they wont be able to absorb as much water thought the casing.


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Re: jar question.... both are 1/2 pint but..... [Re: Squid]
    #700202 - 06/25/02 12:33 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I like to use wide mouth jars because the cake just slides out when colonized.


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Re: jar question.... both are 1/2 pint but..... [Re: Anno]
    #700217 - 06/25/02 12:38 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

haha thats great anno i was about to do the math for him myself till i scrolled down and saw your post.

as always your on the ball.


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Re: jar question.... both are 1/2 pint but..... [Re: L3D]
    #700281 - 06/25/02 12:54 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

look at those skills, Anno is a genious!


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Re: jar question.... both are 1/2 pint but..... [Re: Mycelium]
    #700366 - 06/25/02 01:22 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

>look at those skills, Anno is a genious!

This is school math, everybody should be able to calculate this....


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Re: jar question.... both are 1/2 pint but..... [Re: Anno]
    #700604 - 06/25/02 02:47 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I even know the website where Anno copied the formula from ;-)

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Re: jar question.... both are 1/2 pint but..... [Re: ElectricGnome]
    #700909 - 06/25/02 04:30 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

ok my 2 cents worth.

I have used both.

the wide mouth jars do colonize faster without a doubt.
I also believe that the wide mouth jars colonizing so much faster, might cut down on a few contams....which can be a real plus too.

but.... the tall 1/2 pints have fruited better for me.....as cakes.
they do take up less space in a fruiting chamber....which can be benificial if you don't want to lose precious space.

now if you are using these for casing.....there shouldn't be much difference.
except the time element.....wide mouths are faster!

good luck!


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Re: jar question.... both are 1/2 pint but..... [Re: Anno]
    #702506 - 06/26/02 09:08 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

>This is school math, everybody should be able to calculate this....


Anno, you forget that there are some Americans that finish 12 years of school and still cannot read English (Or any other language for that matter)!



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Re: jar question.... both are 1/2 pint but..... [Re: Frog31337]
    #702568 - 06/26/02 09:28 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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