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 OrgoneConclusion
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 Have you witnessed or performed 'real' magick? 
#6991766 - 05/31/07 04:23 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Please, no poetic answers like, "When I fell in love," or "When I saw my child being born," or "A beautiful sunrise."
No, I mean something mind-blowing and out of the realm of 'normal' human experience - something seemingly defying known physics.
And NO - tripping experiences do not count.
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 Re: Have you witnessed or performed 'real' magick? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#6991785 - 05/31/07 04:29 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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I was at a Toots and The Maytals concert, it was outdoors. Naturally the rains started falling. So Toots starts singing in his funky soulful reggae voice for the rains to go away, and THEY DID.
I put spells on people all the time.
The answer for me is most assuredly yes.
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: Have you witnessed or performed 'real' magick? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
#6991807 - 05/31/07 04:37 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
I put spells on people all the time.
For example? What kind of a spell could you put on me (good or evil)?
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nakors_junk_bag
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Re: Have you witnessed or performed 'real' magick? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#6991823 - 05/31/07 04:40 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, I don't consider it in that snese.
But let say you and I were to spend some time together. I would probably, most likely convince you that I am worth hanging out with and am a viable option as a friend. To me that is magick.
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Re: Have you witnessed or performed 'real' magick? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
#6992376 - 05/31/07 07:33 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
nakors_junk_bag said:
Well, I don't consider it in that snese.
But let say you and I were to spend some time together. I would probably, most likely convince you that I am worth hanging out with and am a viable option as a friend. To me that is magick.
The first thing Orgone said was:
"Please, no poetic answers like, 'When I fell in love,' or 'When I saw my child being born,' or 'A beautiful sunrise.'"
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Re: Have you witnessed or performed 'real' magick? [Re: JunkFood]
#6992434 - 05/31/07 07:49 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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when a caveman would turn on the TV it would be "real magick" to him but that's because he doesn't know (and me) how the TV actually works. unexplainable things aren't magical, it just means you are probably uneducated to a degree and with enough knowledge and understanding you could explain whatever you feel needs explaining.
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Re: Have you witnessed or performed 'real' magick? [Re: Bridgeburner]
#6992456 - 05/31/07 07:55 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not necessarily: what if something genuinely defies the laws of physics?
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: Have you witnessed or performed 'real' magick? [Re: Bridgeburner]
#6992459 - 05/31/07 07:55 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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How did the caveman get the TV?  Time travel?
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Re: Have you witnessed or performed 'real' magick? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#6992656 - 05/31/07 08:39 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
OrgoneConclusion said:
How did the caveman get the TV? Time travel?
I don't think the issue was about time travel, but about one's inability to understand.
We call magick the occult (hidden, beyond the realm of human comprehension).
There are many things that we didn't understood in the past and considered them as being magick and now we do.
Just as how we can't understand the soul right now but maybe in the future we will 
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Re: Have you witnessed or performed 'real' magick? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#6992691 - 05/31/07 08:45 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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I commonly manipulate the fabric of time and space with my thoughts and bend reality to my will. Such mastery is within my power.
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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Re: Have you witnessed or performed 'real' magick? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#6992700 - 05/31/07 08:47 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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And you are still home in time for supper. 
Mrs. Coyotl: Honey, wipe your shoes before coming in.
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thedudenj
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Re: Have you witnessed or performed 'real' magick? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#6992709 - 05/31/07 08:49 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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every day
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"You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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Re: Have you witnessed or performed 'real' magick? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#6992710 - 05/31/07 08:49 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, Dear.
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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Re: Have you witnessed or performed 'real' magick? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#6992719 - 05/31/07 08:50 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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For a small woman to humble a large and fierce warrior - now THAT is magick!
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Re: Have you witnessed or performed 'real' magick? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#6992729 - 05/31/07 08:52 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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if you consider NLP magick, then yes. all the time.
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Re: Have you witnessed or performed 'real' magick? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#6992730 - 05/31/07 08:52 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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My wife is over 6 foot...I am only 4 inches taller.
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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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thedudenj
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Re: Have you witnessed or performed 'real' magick? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#6992743 - 05/31/07 08:55 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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 and roll
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"You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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Re: Have you witnessed or performed 'real' magick? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#6992800 - 05/31/07 09:05 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Huehuecoyotl said:
My wife is over 6 foot...I am only 4 inches taller.
Most folks don't realize that the Kentucky variety of sasquatch is one of the smaller breeds. Here is Hue foraging in the woods:
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Re: Have you witnessed or performed 'real' magick? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#6992829 - 05/31/07 09:13 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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thats not the real one at all
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"You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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Re: Have you witnessed or performed 'real' magick? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#6993396 - 05/31/07 11:03 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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And just to make it clear, there is a difference between magic and magick.
The term magick, the latter, and also the one you are referring to is introduced by Aleister Crowley, and it's based on the Thelemic system. It is about using one's direct intention in manifesting a change. For him it is the REAL magick. The law of the Will.
So, if it THAT what you're talking about, let me tell that yes, it works, if you refer to plain magic, as in illusion, then well I guess that it does on the measure you rely on illusion 
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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
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