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which do you enjoy
    #6978809 - 05/28/07 06:43 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

people who grow - do you enjoy growing shrooms or taking shrooms more?

its a hard call for me. i think i enjoy growing them more though. i like the mad scientist-ness of it all. i enjoy taking them, but i know i would enjoy them alot less if i had to pay for them by the 1/8 :thumbdown:

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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: moon_glue]
    #6978831 - 05/28/07 06:46 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

i hate growing them its such a bitch and so much waiting

i also hate paying for them :thumbdown:

but i looooove eating them :mushroom2:

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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: Atheist]
    #6978865 - 05/28/07 06:50 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Yea i love to grow them but i also love to eat em'.I hate waiting for the jars to colonize and start to pin but I like the fruting stage of growin,who doesnt? So Id say both equally for me.

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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: Atheist]
    #6978866 - 05/28/07 06:50 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

im hoping to get a lot of fun out of growing them.. ill be starting here very soon, just picked a lot of supplies up cheap as hell at a discount store.

got my incubator pretty much done, just need a fish tank heater and thermometer.. these two 16 gallon storage bins for 6$.. and this nice 16 quart pot to take the place of a pressure cooker for like 8$


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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: Banez]
    #6978893 - 05/28/07 06:54 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

My jars colonized just fine w/o an incubator in a room at around 73F.Im sure itll reduce colonization time a bit though.I also found that steam sterilizing in a boiling pot of water works fine if you boil long enough at a slow boil.

Edited by OGkush420 (05/28/07 07:03 PM)

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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: Banez]
    #6978900 - 05/28/07 06:56 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

it definitely colonizes faster if incubated

and harvesting is the BEST but waiting for them to dry sucks

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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: OGkush420]
    #6978911 - 05/28/07 06:59 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

yeah i was about to say you dont really need an incubator except for the winter.

just keep in the top shelf of a closet. my popcorn is doing MUCH better since i quit using my incubator. i had a TiT. now they have been made into two FC's =)

i could sell you a 100 watt fish tank heater!

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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: moon_glue]
    #6978957 - 05/28/07 07:11 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

how much are those things? i was just going to pick one up when i got the vermiculite next week.

im making a TiT as well and hopefully will be upgrading in the near future.. but my FC will probably be a 10-20 gallon fish tank with some flouros set up

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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: Banez]
    #6979009 - 05/28/07 07:21 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

10 gal. is good depending on how many jars u plan on colonizing.
Ive got 5 in a 10 gal with a 3 inch layer of perlite and a PF style lid.

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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: OGkush420]
    #6979032 - 05/28/07 07:25 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

yeah see i plan on doing 12 jars at a time, thats the plan atleast.. im thinking a 20 gallon tank with a 2 inch layer of perlite.

for the lid i was going to make something by hand, involving plexi-glass and attaching a light to it... still havent decided what kind of light ill use, prolly just a basic flouro.


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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: OGkush420]
    #6979038 - 05/28/07 07:27 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Btw,youll most likely only need one flouro,although flouros arent completely necessary as long as the cakes get some indirect light, I prefer indirect sunlight coming mostly from the top of my terrarium.(Its underneath a window with a blind)

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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: OGkush420]
    #6979049 - 05/28/07 07:29 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

thats the plan right now.

id rather have a light so i can regulate the exact amount of light the cakes get and chart my results. that way i can determine optimal conditions.


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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: OGkush420]
    #6979061 - 05/28/07 07:31 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Id go with the 20 gal then and a 2 inch layer should do fine.Any airtight lid should work as long as it lets some light through.As for the light source thats ur call but natural sunlight works good IMO.

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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: OGkush420]
    #6979087 - 05/28/07 07:36 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

That sounds like a pretty good plan.Good luck with your grow and hopefully u dont get any contaminated jars.

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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: OGkush420]
    #6979109 - 05/28/07 07:40 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

yeah the light will more than likely be mounted on the inside of the tank therefor it will be airtight and be able to keep the humidity level up.. which reminds me i need a multi-function thermometer for inside the FC


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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: Banez]
    #6979146 - 05/28/07 07:47 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

That might create heat problems and its gonna be pretty humid inside there.It'll be fine if u rest a flourescent strip light across the top of the tank over the lid.(doesnt give off much heat)

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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: OGkush420]
    #6979197 - 05/28/07 08:02 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

dont i want humidity near 90-100%>?


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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: Banez]
    #6979201 - 05/28/07 08:03 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

yes

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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: Atheist]
    #6979219 - 05/28/07 08:08 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

The best fruting temp is 86 F ,but any warm room temperature is fine as long as it doesnt get much hotter than that.Yea,You want 100% humidity ,but u dont want ur light inside the humid enviroment.The high humidity and dew drops are def bad for the light and can be dangerous.

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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: OGkush420]
    #6979252 - 05/28/07 08:16 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

is there a good way to keep my FC at a constant temperature.. what are your suggestions for that.


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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: Banez]
    #6979269 - 05/28/07 08:21 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I just let it fluctuate a little.Where im at it stays mostly the same all day and goes down a little at night.I think thats ok that my temps arent always constant,just like in nature.But if u want steady,optimal conditions then id get some kind of heating pad or somethin of the sort with a digital temp control maybe?

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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: OGkush420]
    #6979306 - 05/28/07 08:27 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

yeah and with an airtight lid it should retain heat pretty well.. if i get bored i might put some tint on the glass of the tank, that might help as well.


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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: OGkush420]
    #6979710 - 05/28/07 09:44 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

OGkush420 said:
The best fruting temp is 86 F 




are you growing contam?
the substrate alone will bring up the temp at least 5 degrees
90+ degrees fruiting????

I actually enjoy growing more then eating
I love achieving higher and higher BE
I challenge myself to do so

After picking so many shrooms from hpoo I kind of lost my apetite for them... I ate them only 3x all of 2006 and I am yet to try some for 2007... I just may have to make a tea lol

:mushroom2:

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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: tonyperez420]
    #6979743 - 05/28/07 09:54 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

No im growing ecuadors at the moment and 86F is proven to be the optimal fruiting temp and thermal death occurs at 120F.Lately my fc has been at 80-84F.(no digi thermometer)

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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: OGkush420]
    #6979781 - 05/28/07 10:03 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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No im growing ecuadors at the moment and 86F is proven to be the optimal fruiting temp and thermal death occurs at 120F.Lately my fc has been at 80-84F.(no digi thermometer)




I dont know where you got thermal death being 120F, BUT Stamets states thermal death at 106F for cubes during spawn run
(could you quote your source?)

In the cultivating forum it is said that 74-77 is best fruiting temp for cubes... and if your substrate is deeper prob even less temp

I remember reading a post in which agar says he keeps fruiting temp at 70

Can somebody else chime in with an opinion

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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: tonyperez420]
    #6979811 - 05/28/07 10:09 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I def remember reading that it was proven psilocybe cubensis fruits best at 86F,not 100% about the thermal death now that u mention it though.

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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: OGkush420]
    #6979814 - 05/28/07 10:11 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

im also talkin about pf cakes

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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: tonyperez420]
    #6979862 - 05/28/07 10:23 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

tonyperez420 said:


Can somebody else chime in with an opinion


fruiting at 80+ deg

RogerRabbit says it's ok.  I'm sold.  :plur:


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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: mushbaby]
    #6979924 - 05/28/07 10:32 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

thanks :peace:

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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: OGkush420]
    #6979947 - 05/28/07 10:35 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

hmmm well if you always have growing in everystage going on granted you keep up with it you should be harvesting shrooms all the time once you get into a cycle. Constantly making sure you have no down time. (this would mean you have multiple projects always going on)


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Re: which do you enjoy [Re: mushbaby]
    #6979957 - 05/28/07 10:37 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

oh really?

I guess I gotta eat my words

I ordered his video...

IME 74-77 is best and at lower temps more pins are intiated
if you shoot your substrate with a heat gun it will be 5-10 degrees higher then surrounding temp (read an agar post)
so I guess its about 80 or so...

sorry for hijacking

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