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Re: Bad news for profit-seeking psychics [Re: daytripper23]
    #6975349 - 05/27/07 09:41 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

In philisophical discussion, if someone is stating that psychic phenomena is direct evidence of something, I can understand if someone contends this. But if someone is trying to express something deeper, and is continually derailed in the same way,

That's why we have two forums for this. If you just want to state your ideas without challenge there is a forum to post in. So there should be no problem.


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Re: Bad news for profit-seeking psychics [Re: Icelander]
    #6975355 - 05/27/07 09:43 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

And yet I've seen people use the Randi card in MR&P as well.


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Re: Bad news for profit-seeking psychics [Re: Silversoul]
    #6975387 - 05/27/07 09:52 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Then they're being naughty.:shrug:


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Re: Bad news for profit-seeking psychics [Re: Icelander]
    #6975482 - 05/27/07 10:16 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

No one ever monitors that forum to spank them. Perhaps Diploid should moderate that forum as well? :smirk:


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Re: Bad news for profit-seeking psychics [Re: Icelander]
    #6975485 - 05/27/07 10:18 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

This is exactly what im talking about! Dont you see? Psychic phenomena really doesnt have anything to do with what im really trying to say right now. Im just using this concept to explain something bigger. So, challenge it all you want, i dont think anybodies even asserted that they have psychic ability though.

Also, its not like its a law of nature that these forums must be seperate. Its only because we tend to fall in to extremes by that these forums are seprate. Its human nature. I could sit around in the philosophy forum and continually type "how can you assert that if there is no proof of any existance?" to anything and everything anybody types without breaking any rules. Would that be productive? I think we should be more mature than that. If someone says they are psychic, if someone says they believe theres a god, whats the point in argument? Let it go if you disagree, instead of derailing the discussion. Everybody is stuck in their own spot on these sorts of things.

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Re: Bad news for profit-seeking psychics [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6975487 - 05/27/07 10:18 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

There are mods for that forum right? Then if they can't do the job they should be dumped.


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Re: Bad news for profit-seeking psychics [Re: daytripper23]
    #6975504 - 05/27/07 10:24 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I think it would be easy to moderate a combined philosophy and mysticism forum. I challenge you all give to me an instance or scenario.

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Re: Bad news for profit-seeking psychics [Re: Icelander]
    #6975505 - 05/27/07 10:24 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I thought that was the dump. :rofl2:


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Re: Bad news for profit-seeking psychics [Re: daytripper23]
    #6975510 - 05/27/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

how can you assert that if there is no proof of any existance?" to anything and everything anybody types without breaking any rules. Would that be productive? I think we should be more mature than that. If someone says they are psychic, if someone says they believe theres a god, whats the point in argument? Let it go if you disagree, instead of derailing the discussion. Everybody is stuck in their own spot on these sorts of things.

Look at it this way. If you ignore any post you think is irrelevant then you can't be derailed.

If someone claims there's a God and he's going to send all the non-believers to hell then there is a good reason to debate it. Everything here is open to debate by anyone for any reason. I suggest you ignore the posts you don't think relevant and get on with it.

And the point in argument/debate is for fun and education. This forum is open to debate and argument and that's why we are here. I don't like a lot of it and think it's meaningless, but others must think it's valuable. Who is correct?


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Re: Bad news for profit-seeking psychics [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6975516 - 05/27/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Its a straightfoward policy, methinks. God and Neitche united.:grin:

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Re: Bad news for profit-seeking psychics [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6975517 - 05/27/07 10:27 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

fireworks_god said:
I thought that was the dump. :rofl2:




Some think of it that way. I'm glad it's there.


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Re: Bad news for profit-seeking psychics [Re: Icelander]
    #6975519 - 05/27/07 10:28 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, no doubt - this is P&S. Anything presented for discussion is subject to critical viewpoints and dissent. That's why this forum is here. There are other alternatives for different manners of discussion...


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Re: Bad news for profit-seeking psychics [Re: Icelander]
    #6975532 - 05/27/07 10:33 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

But there is no convincing a believer that there isnt a god, and he isnt going to convince us we are going to hell

Why would anyone argue over this?

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Re: Bad news for profit-seeking psychics [Re: daytripper23]
    #6975538 - 05/27/07 10:34 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

What are you talking about? :what:


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Re: Bad news for profit-seeking psychics [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6975540 - 05/27/07 10:35 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Dont you think thats an extreme outlook?

Again, if i wanted, by this rule i could deny anything anyone says because there is no proof of reality. Over, and over, and over, and over.

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Re: Bad news for profit-seeking psychics [Re: daytripper23]
    #6975543 - 05/27/07 10:36 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Feel free to be as tedious as you desire. We choose who we are.


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Re: Bad news for profit-seeking psychics [Re: daytripper23]
    #6975550 - 05/27/07 10:38 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Regarding that "extreme" outlook, feel free to peruse the forum rules and guidelines. I essentially quoted it in describing the purpose and intention of this forum. You propose a slippery slope fallacy when you refer to someone questioning every aspect of every statement over and over and over again. That is not the purpose and intention of the forum as outlined - that is not the spirit of the letter.

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Re: Bad news for profit-seeking psychics [Re: daytripper23]
    #6975551 - 05/27/07 10:38 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)


But there is no convincing a believer that there isnt a god, and he isnt going to convince us we are going to hell

Why would anyone argue over this?


I was refering to what Icelander said:

Look at it this way. If you ignore any post you think is irrelevant then you can't be derailed.

If someone claims there's a God and he's going to send all the non-believers to hell then there is a good reason to debate it. Everything here is open to debate by anyone for any reason. I suggest you ignore the posts you don't think relevant and get on with it.

And the point in argument/debate is for fun and education. This forum is open to debate and argument and that's why we are here. I don't like a lot of it and think it's meaningless, but others must think it's valuable. Who is correct?


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Re: Bad news for profit-seeking psychics [Re: daytripper23]
    #6975560 - 05/27/07 10:39 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Why do anything?


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Re: Bad news for profit-seeking psychics [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6975572 - 05/27/07 10:42 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Why ask Why?












Shit.


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