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OfflineRipVanWinkle
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Ordering some seeds, need advice...
    #6957270 - 05/23/07 03:11 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Ok so I've been doing some reading and browsing and I've decided I'd like to grow Kratom, Datura, Sinicuichi, and Calea "Dream Herb". The thing is, I would like to grow from seeds if possible but I have read that Kratom and Calea are pretty hard to grow from seeds.

I can't decide whether I should go ahead and order some Kratom and Calea seeds to try it out or if I should save my money and look for some cuttings of those two plants to get me started. NOTE: The calea seeds are being sold inside of their "fresh" pods, so maybe they will still be viable? Any suggestions?

Any advice on starting out with any of these plants, or recommendations for growing other ethnos will be greatly appreciated also. (Not interested in growing morning glories or salvia though.)


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Re: Ordering some seeds, need advice... [Re: RipVanWinkle]
    #6957608 - 05/23/07 04:49 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

finding viable kratom seed can be tricky, as it dosent last very long...

but if u can get viable seed than its not hard to get it to pop!


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Re: Ordering some seeds, need advice... [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #6957858 - 05/23/07 05:55 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Starting datura seeds in plastic bags with wet paper towels did not work for me. I had much better success just planting them in pots and keeping the soil moist.

I planted kratom seeds this month and had good germination. I just filled a couple of plastic pots with soil, wet the soil, sprinkled the seeds gently on the top of the soil, misted to give the seeds moisture, and then covered with clear plastic wrap held down with a rubber band. I put them outside in a shady place and left them. Nothing sprouted the first week and after a few more days I was a bit worried. I thought the soil looked too wet. I took the plastic off and let it air out for a while and then put the plastic back on and set the pots in a place that gets bright light most of the day. In a week the seeds began to sprout and are still sprouting. Hope this helps some.


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Re: Ordering some seeds, need advice... [Re: plainswalker]
    #6959902 - 05/24/07 01:29 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I have 18 holes of one of my 72 hole tray dedicated to kratom, and I had put at least 10 seeds in each hole. After about 3 weeks(maybe 2 weeks, I can't remember:shrug:) I've only got 3 tiny sprouts. I had nothing until I moved it a lot closer to the light, then it just took a few days for them to pop up. Hopefully I get more and they actually survive.


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Re: Ordering some seeds, need advice... [Re: TheEnd]
    #6961065 - 05/24/07 10:47 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

u should lay kratom seeds on top of the soil, dont bury them at all, as they require light to trigger germination...

high temps help too :thumbup:


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Re: Ordering some seeds, need advice... [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #6961750 - 05/24/07 01:54 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Mmmm kratom...

PM me if you want a source for viable kratom seeds. They have all the seeds for the plants you mentioned BTW. I did what TheEnd did with his kratom. I have plenty of red and white vein!

There is also a guy on ebay that has awesome, bushy rifat strain clones. I can't remember his full user name, but it ends with "sweet". I bought a couple of them a while back. I have some of my very own clones started now. And there is a good vendor that just started carrying small kratom plants again. They aren't very specific about it though, and they look like they need to be pinched. I can say they have some good kratom foliage.

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Re: Ordering some seeds, need advice... [Re: mikemushroom]
    #6962043 - 05/24/07 03:26 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I still have a small amount of the kratom seeds left, so I'm thinking of just sprinkling them on top of the soil in just a regular pot instead of the tray. Easier for me that way, and also easier on my little indoor greenhouse. Those trays take up half a shelf and hog all the light so that plants on lower shelves get hardly anything.:rolleyes:


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Re: Ordering some seeds, need advice... [Re: TheEnd]
    #6963033 - 05/24/07 08:38 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, I still have a ton. I guess I will germinate them too. I don't know wtf I am going to do with them all. eBay?

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Re: Ordering some seeds, need advice... [Re: mikemushroom]
    #6963710 - 05/24/07 10:46 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Just start a Kratom forest in your yard.:crazy2:


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Re: Ordering some seeds, need advice... [Re: TheEnd]
    #6963876 - 05/24/07 11:33 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I'll send you some Datura seeds if you want. They are the kind with the small purple flowers though, instead of the big white ones. If you're interested, just pm me.

Edited by AgingHippy (05/24/07 11:34 PM)

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