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Which foreign magic species would suit the Auckland NZ region best?
    #6956139 - 05/23/07 12:27 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I chucked this here because I feel it's more appropriate than the other forums, much more to do with habitat and locality than the other forums.

Anyways - what magic species would do best in Auckland? Note this is purely hypothetical. :smirk: Also note ease of inoculation would be another factor that one would have to think about hypothetically.

Auckland is classified as Plant hardiness zone 10.

An interesting side note, I think Cubensis would go NUTS up in Northland, man would that be a laugh.

Auckland is described as...
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Auckland has a warm-temperate climate, with warm, humid summers and mild, damp winters, and is the sunniest and warmest of New Zealand's main centres.[6] The average maximum temperature is 23°C in January and February, and 13°C in July.[7] The absolute maximum temperature is 30.5°C.[8] High levels of rainfall occur almost year-round (an average of 1249 mm per year), especially in winter. Climatic conditions vary in different parts of the city owing to geography such as hills, land cover and distance from the sea.




What are other magic species you guys find in plant hardiness zones 10? Can Cubensis live successfully in this?

This question was posed by another New Zealand hunter, I just figured I'd leave his name out unless he wishes to reply here.
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Re: Which foreign magic species would suit the Auckland NZ region best? [Re: Feelers]
    #6956837 - 05/23/07 03:27 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

pandas man,pandas.


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Re: Which foreign magic species would suit the Auckland NZ region best? [Re: coon]
    #6957191 - 05/23/07 04:56 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Greetings fellow hardiness zone ten earth inhabitant. Please allow me to recommend the beautiful, prolific, and potent species Psilocybe cyanescens.

It grows pretty well in a lot of different wood chip environments and I think it would take a liking to your country.

Since every mushroom occupies a different nitche and you don't really know exactly what that nitche will be when you are spraying spores or liquid culture everywhere, I think it would be a good idea to use many species of psilocybes at once when doing mass wild innoculations, allowing proper species will take hold in several different environments.

I can't wait for the day that Sporeworks has syringes that have spores from fifty wood loving psilocybe species, that would make one bad ass liquid culture or the worlds most interesting jar of grain.

How do you plan to perform the innoculations? Instead of borrowing paul stamets liquid culture from a helicopter idea, which is good, you could use mine instead - put a cup of spawn or spores in everyones yard waste container. Those are like garbage cans except that the city picks them up and puts the contents into the giant compost pile.

Maybe the old fashioned ways are best, there is always the old standby of spraying liquid culture from a pesticide sprayer on wood chips during the day while dressed as a yard guy, then turning on the sprinkeler system and programming it to activate three times as often. Or you could just toss colonized wood chips everywhere.


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Re: Which foreign magic species would suit the Auckland NZ region best? [Re: lineman]
    #6958068 - 05/23/07 08:42 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Actually more than likely, P. azuresecens.

However, I should note that most of the species transplanted form America to other countries grows for one season and never seem to return the following season.

Gartz has tried this on numerous occasions in Germany. Even the azures grow differently in their shapes in Germany. Others have tried growing azures in New Mexico, Arizona, Ohio, New York, Austria, Switzerland and Holland. They grow a season and never come back and never spread to other regions.

I have tried to plant Cubes into the Hawaiian environment with no Success. I would plant in the spring and spread spores in food troughs, with apples to the cattle, into manure in the fields, etc and never any cubes would come up, only copes.

Who knowns why one species grows in a particular place and others do not.

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Re: Which foreign magic species would suit the Auckland NZ region best? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #6959924 - 05/24/07 03:56 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I really agree about the cubensis and northland .. for those who dont know its pretty warm and humid up north of auckland most of the time .. the east and west coasts re really very close and there is so much open pastureland etc that seems just about perfect

And the notion of a mixed colony of cubensis and let them determine from that diverse strength the particualrs of where and when really is a great idea .

A laugh feeler .. yeah thats what i want to hear .. you've got me pointng in that direction now for sure . great stuff from all of you - so much better when we combine our thoughts


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Re: Which foreign magic species would suit the Auckland NZ region best? [Re: cleeen]
    #6959998 - 05/24/07 04:38 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

> And the notion of a mixed colony of cubensis and let them determine from that diverse strength the particualrs of where and when really is a great idea .

My idea was a mix of many wood lovers.

A mixed colony of cubensis is your idea, and it sounds like a good one if you plan to seed outdoor places where they would fruit and let the best strain for the particular area stick around.

Edit: Coon is right on target - Put some pandas in.


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Re: Which foreign magic species would suit the Auckland NZ region best? [Re: lineman]
    #6960099 - 05/24/07 06:08 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Pandas...is that a strain of shroom, or am I missing something?

For anyone interested in trying to introduce some shrooms (or anything else for that matter) into NZ, it pays to keep in mind that we do have a semi-fragile, or at least, semi-untainted, ecosystem here.

Dung lovers would not be a problem...because NZ has no native mammals, a dung-loving shroom is not going to be displacing any native mushroom or other organism. Woodlovers are a little riskier.

There are already a lot of different native and naturalised active species in NZ. You could always just foster along whats here rather than trying to introduce more stuff. Not that it's likely to be a huge risk but it pays to keep in mind.


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Re: Which foreign magic species would suit the Auckland NZ region best? [Re: zee_werp]
    #6960176 - 05/24/07 07:26 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

true true zee_werp ..

there are some stink ones out there already those red squid ones that burst out of the ground and smell like blown roadkill lol lol

There are nice copelandia's in the taranaki and new plymouth tho arent there isn't that what we call blue meanines in fact?
And that could be simple start too .. some places have microclimates that are similar to other regions too . Like colder sides of the hill - beside lakes and etc .. i actually recall the railway tracks being amongst the colder parts of the cities north or south


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Re: Which foreign magic species would suit the Auckland NZ region best? [Re: lineman]
    #6960181 - 05/24/07 07:34 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)


lol haha yeah i know you said woodlovers and im there too buddy .. the blue tea  is real nice one allright ..  :pirate:

but however there you go cause i was referring more directly to feelers mention of

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An interesting side note, I think Cubensis would go NUTS up in Northland, man would that be a laugh.


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having said that it was you mention of the mix of woodlovers  that got me thinking first ..


Edited by cleeen (05/24/07 08:17 AM)


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Re: Which foreign magic species would suit the Auckland NZ region best? [Re: cleeen]
    #6993243 - 05/31/07 10:30 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Mushroomer said:

> However, I should note that most of the species transplanted form America to other countries grows for one season and never seem to return the following season.

I think this is because of senescence. When you bring a new mushroom to a different part of the world, it has to mate with itself to produce offspring.

Two weeks ago workman said:

"Its not obvious, but when you do a multispore grow you are actually selfing the mushroom. The mushroom is basically breeding with itself. Every time a plant or mushroom is selfed it loses some genetic variability. I forget the percentage loss but I think its like 25% (trying to find my reference). So after several generations the genetic varibility is so low that the mushroom is considered true breeding from multispore."


To get a mushroom to take off in a different part of the world and breed well forever, you will need to provide genetic diversity from the start. In the wild this could happen when a bunch of dirt is moved to a new country with a tree, for example. If you can gather several mushrooms of the same species from different patches which are geographically separated, my theory is that you could make a culture that contains many genotypes and would be capable of introducing a new species that will last.


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Re: Which foreign magic species would suit the Auckland NZ region best? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #6993349 - 05/31/07 10:51 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe this could be accomplished by ordering spores for your target species from several vendors and mixing them.


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Re: Which foreign magic species would suit the Auckland NZ region best? [Re: lineman]
    #6993412 - 05/31/07 11:04 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds pricey lineman. How about finding a bunch from many different areas of the same mushroom then printing them and sending the overseas.


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