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ayahuasca?
    #6938577 - 05/19/07 12:19 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Someone said on another sites' forum that he recommends Aya because the trip only last about 2 hours!?

I don't really believe that...but i don't know.
can anyone confirm this?

Can anyone tell me about any pros and cons of ayahuasca over other psychedelics?



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Re: ayahuasca? [Re: spacelord]
    #6938642 - 05/19/07 12:45 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Aya lasts 5-8 hours usually.

Please check out ayahuasca.com.

It's a great teacher-plant, and should not be used recreationally as some do with mushrooms.

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Re: ayahuasca? [Re: myndreach]
    #6938695 - 05/19/07 01:01 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Trips can last as little as two hours, but also as long as six, with slight effects perceptible until as long as eight hours after ingestion. A low dose of MAOI with a moderate dose of whatever DMT containing plant you're using can result on a shorter trip. Tripping if you have something to do afterwards isn't intelligent regardless of how short you think the trip is going to be.

I hate to put normative terms on aspects of psychedelic experience, so I won't make a pros and cons list, but a few points about ayahuasca:

It will usuaully cause vomitting "The purge" and even if you don't actually throw up, an uneasy stomach is to be expected. Usually, this is early on in the experience and can be forgotten once the trip has really kicked in.

It feels very different to a lot of other psychedelics in that, at higher doses, it can feel like you're in a different reality, rather than simply experiencing a heightened state of mind.

The experience can easily get very intense, and can go wrong very, very easily if you don't mentally prepare yourself. If you've often run into nasty situations while on psychedelics, then proceed with caution.

Ayahuasca has a very spiritual feel to it; in my experience, one matched only by LSD. The experiences can be very enjoyable, it's just not a substance to be taken lightly. Research into the doses of whatever plants you're using and weigh them out carefully.


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Re: ayahuasca? [Re: spacelord]
    #6939631 - 05/19/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

i just made a batch of some today. i've never injested ayahuasca brew before and im looking forward to doing so tonight. i boiled about 6 grams of chacruna foilage for an hour and a half and i was actually just wondering how long the typical trip lasts.

i read that some guy had a 34 hour trip and i got scared of that happening because though i have nothing to do tomorrow, i dont think im prepared for anything like that in the least.

this thread has reassured me. :grin:

but yeah, i thought the typical time was around 6 hours until i read that one trip report and i was scared.

can anyone tell me how long before and after drinking the brew should I refrain from eating the restricted foods? ive heard a few numbers tossed around and i want to set this straight.


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Re: ayahuasca? [Re: Drewwyann]
    #6939852 - 05/19/07 07:22 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

some would say 6 hours before and after.

Id say 12 hours(especially before).
I always chose to be on the safe side.
You might want to do the same, or fast if you want to.


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Re: ayahuasca? [Re: yageman]
    #6940179 - 05/19/07 09:01 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

my trip lasted 2 hours
  only did it once so far though
  wanted to today but instead had some mushies and laid in bed for some awesome CEV's :thumbup:

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Re: ayahuasca? [Re: Drewwyann]
    #6940378 - 05/19/07 10:01 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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Drewwyann said:
i just made a batch of some today. i've never injested ayahuasca brew before and im looking forward to doing so tonight. i boiled about 6 grams of chacruna foilage for an hour and a half and i was actually just wondering how long the typical trip lasts.




6 grams?

I usually go from 30g to 75 depending on the circumstance, many factors can take into the strength of a brew but only 6 grams?

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Re: ayahuasca? [Re: Wwwyzzerdd]
    #6940411 - 05/19/07 10:10 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

its 6 grams of dried foilage. not fresh. is 6 grams of dry underdoing it?


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Re: ayahuasca? [Re: Drewwyann]
    #6940441 - 05/19/07 10:16 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I ordered a bag of 250g of chac and used 50g with little to no effects, but I am assuming that there was another factor to that particular "dud brew".

Yes, 6grams is very little. Maybe if you were using MHRB then it would be sufficient but with Chacruna its very sketchy plants can be very weak and very strong(although rarely)

Where did you get this Chac from and I'm assuming you aren't going to drink it by itself.




EDIT: check out www.ayahuasca.com in the prep forum one of the stickies has lots of good recipes.

Edited by Wwwyzzerdd (05/19/07 10:17 PM)

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Re: ayahuasca? [Re: Wwwyzzerdd]
    #6940446 - 05/19/07 10:17 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Wwwyzzerdd said:
Quote:

Drewwyann said:
i just made a batch of some today. i've never injested ayahuasca brew before and im looking forward to doing so tonight. i boiled about 6 grams of chacruna foilage for an hour and a half and i was actually just wondering how long the typical trip lasts.




6 grams?

I usually go from 30g to 75 depending on the circumstance, many factors can take into the strength of a brew but only 6 grams?




Thats just you man, the plants you have had, and how you brewed them.

Dont fuck around with dose advise if you find a reason to act so confused about his statements.
Seriously..........

This guy is *trying ayahuasca, doesnt know how he will react, and probably doesnt want his brain to explode......lol

Im just not so sure you have any idea what those doses you mentioned could do to some people depending on the dose of maois, and if their dmt plants were good etc etc.

Its all good though. Im sure you puke pretty damn quick, or just have a very high tolerance. Ya, and etc etc.


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Re: ayahuasca? [Re: yageman]
    #6940456 - 05/19/07 10:19 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Whatever floats your boat it doesen't matter to me what goes on in other peoples heads.  :wink:

Thats why I say its sketchy tons of shit can mess it up or can make it very strong I dunno anything about his plants therefore my advice is irrelevant, just saying what I happen to use that is all.

Edited by Wwwyzzerdd (05/19/07 10:25 PM)

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Re: ayahuasca? [Re: Drewwyann]
    #6940468 - 05/19/07 10:22 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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Drewwyann said:
its 6 grams of dried foilage. not fresh. is 6 grams of dry underdoing it?




try 10.

It is a bit "safe".
You are using 6 grams of rue though.

I dont know how many serious trips you have been on, and what drugs you liked or got the most out of.

All I can say is that your history of psychedelic experiences can make GREAT difference.

Reverse tolerance is an understatement.
I trip balls off of 1 giant hit of smoked salvia leaf, yet some people cant see how one hit of 20x can resemble a trip.

Same goes with mushrooms.
For some people 3.5 grams can "let them down".

It depends on who you are, and I think you are taking the right approach to ayahuasca.


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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
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Edited by yageman (05/19/07 10:25 PM)

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Re: ayahuasca? [Re: yageman]
    #6940517 - 05/19/07 10:34 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

i've got a pretty good backround with psychedelics. i can do high dose shroom trips 6 grams being my highest so far (with salvia on the comedown), acid and salvia extract with acid, (salvia seems to be a trend) and countless other psychedelics. But i can handle extremely intense psychedelic sessions, and im confident i can handle myself on ayahuasca.

I did however brew up 8 grams of mimosa in a pot. i let all the water steam off, and scraped the bottom of the pot and got a sticky resinous film mixed with some larger chunks of bark. would it be wise to add hot water to this and drink accordingly during my trip? i think im going to do that if the viridis proves to be less than expected. though im not too sure how well the stuff is going to turn back into liquid. i guess i'll boil it again.

could the resinous goop be smoked rather than taken orally? im hesitant because i dont know the concentration of DMT in it, but if its in a cup i would be able to calculate dosage better.


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Re: ayahuasca? [Re: Drewwyann]
    #6941588 - 05/20/07 05:20 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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i read that some guy had a 34 hour trip and i got scared of that happening because though i have nothing to do tomorrow, i dont think im prepared for anything like that in the least.




34 hours? That would probably be caused by MAOI anti depressants.


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Re: ayahuasca? [Re: EllisDSox]
    #6942571 - 05/20/07 11:55 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

it is wise from my expierences to dose the maoi a good time before the brew you made. This may be common knowledge but it's good to know. I usually do about 1/4lbs of b caapi, boiled for about 6hours, then I'll use a liquid syiran rue tincture.


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