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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: undergrounder]
    #7233901 - 07/28/07 02:22 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

oh, i'm not worried, i still think it's pretty pure, i just think i'll have more trouble using it in this condition. that vial ain't going anywhere :crazy2:


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: shirley knott]
    #7233907 - 07/28/07 02:26 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

was it sitting in a warmer then normal spot? did you freeze precip those? Did you do a defat or any recrystallization steps?


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: enesi]
    #7233924 - 07/28/07 02:35 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

not so warm, no.
freeze-precipitated, yes.
defat, no.
recrystalisation, yes.


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: shirley knott]
    #7234304 - 07/28/07 04:38 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

hmm...i'm not real sure what happened then. how old is it?


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: enesi]
    #7236071 - 07/29/07 10:07 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

maybe a month or two - here's the production pictorial:link
and here's the trip report that went along with it: link


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: shirley knott]
    #7236825 - 07/29/07 03:37 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

i have no clue, i'd say try to recrystalize it again, and use it soon, lol


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: enesi]
    #7240239 - 07/30/07 02:46 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Your best bet is to continue CFC'ing until you get pure enough that it is room-temp stable.

I've never had a problem specifically like yours, but I suspect it has to do with one of two things (or both)

1) the solvent you used-- it might not have been as picky an extractor (as in "alkaloid-only") as some others, and pulled some gunk out with your spice.

and/or

2) there was too much heat applied during the extraction, which liquefies the fats that usually don't get loose from your base solution.

Again, as you said, you have good spice, I'd just CFC it clean (if desired) to get the sparkle spice :wink:

:goodluck:


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: coAsTal]
    #7760712 - 12/15/07 12:32 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I ordered ground up rootbark... do I still need the masher?


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: BrainChemicals]
    #7761009 - 12/15/07 06:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

thats silly to ask ovbiously not its already powder


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: BrainChemicals]
    #7772834 - 12/18/07 04:49 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

You might want something to stir the mixture with...


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: Mr E Guest]
    #7780358 - 12/20/07 03:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Hrmm... just read through this entire thread, interesting stuff... definitely has me interested in an extraction. Thanks for the information.


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: andrewss]
    #7807797 - 12/28/07 03:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

any one know if virola Bark needs a defatt? or is it just like mimosa


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: Sra_sephiroth0]
    #7808067 - 12/28/07 05:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i recommend recrystalizing with bestine...freezing, then pouring off the solvent. You are left with nice white powder/crystals. Scrpae into a filter and let the rest evaporate.


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: Sra_sephiroth0]
    #7926591 - 01/24/08 08:49 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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Sra_sephiroth0 said:

any one know if virola Bark needs a defatt? or is it just like mimosa





To find out if there are any fats in your virola bark, soak a small, preferably powdered, sample (~a teaspoonful) in some of your non-polar solvent, maybe 10ml, ie 2 teaspoons. Filter off the solvent into a clear glass dish and allow it to fully evaporate. Check for oily residue by wiping with a clean, blank piece of paper. (Of course, you have read here about checking your solvent is properly volatile and free from residue in the posts here, haven't you?)

If there is an oily residue then you need to do a defat which will be a similar procedure to the sample test. There of course would be no need to evaporate off to obtain the oily residue (unless you really want to???) Solvent recovery would be worth considering if you have some kind of SAFE distillation apparatus.

If there is no fatty residue - which seems fairly likely in my estimation - then just go ahead with the caustic bath. And remember to chuck in that teaspoonful of bark from the sample, it should contain a few micrograms of the spice.


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: Mr E Guest]
    #7992918 - 02/07/08 06:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry if this has been answered before, but I just received my order of MHRB plain, and instead of the bark I ordered it's in powder form. Will this make any difference?


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7992986 - 02/07/08 06:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Don't know why you're posting in an old thread, but no, it won't make any difference. In fact, powdered is better, since extraction efficiency is roughly proportional to surface area.


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8128139 - 03/10/08 04:22 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Is it silly to try this tek with only 56g inner MHBR? I can't procure any more as of now? Someone help me here and please tell me what to do with this amount of root bark.


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: rodox]
    #8128248 - 03/10/08 04:51 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Assuming the bark contains ~1% DMT, you'll get a few hundred milligrams. Probably worthwhile. Just be sure to scale everything down appropriately (i.e ~56 g NaOH, 56g rootbark, and 850 mL water).


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8140125 - 03/13/08 01:19 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

this tek works extreeemely well, i found out that if batches are done at 1/4lb at a time, the product is extremely pure and yields are very high. got up to 7 pulls from a 1/4lb at a time until there was any yellowing. i couldnt believe it myself! compared to doing a whole pound at once, the yields were almost doubled.


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: elfspice_isnice]
    #8359308 - 05/03/08 09:57 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

SWIM knows that this is an old thread (and I'm a newb at the shroomery), but I wanted to post that SWIM tried out this tek (SWIMs first, SWIM has never done any type of extraction before) and it worked much to SWIMs suprise.

SWIM used 56 grams of inner root bark. The first soak was in 1.6 tablespoons of lye and ~250ml of water for 2 1/2 hours or so. Then SWIM added ~90ml of naptha and stirred for around 25 minutes. The naptha didn't really appear to be seperating very well (rather, SWIM thought that the layer was so thing that it'd be tough to pour it off), so SWIM added ~90ml more naptha and stirred for a bit and this seemed to work better.

SWIM did 3 pulls and then covered the bowl for the night to let things soak more. From those 3 pulls, SWIM got .5g of mostly white spice and is hoping for more tomorrow.

Just to be sure SWIM had the right stuff, SWIM sampled the spice (a very small amount, like 4 tiny crystals) and it had a very noticable effect. Definitely a unique smell and taste. SWIM likes :smile:


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