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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: SLiCeR]
    #14010458 - 02/22/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Bookmarked. :super: This is DEFINITELY going to come in handy in the future.


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14012829 - 02/23/11 10:30 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I have heard of problems like the naphtha going dirty brown and unusable trying to use powdered root bark for stb teks like this one, can anyone elaborate on this?

as the only place i can get mhrb has it powdered so any help would be great.


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: SLiCeR]
    #14013305 - 02/23/11 12:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Suggest you use 2x the h20/lye solution than recommended for powdered bark. If you get an emulsion layer and have problem with the solvent separating, you just add more water


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: enesi]
    #14013366 - 02/23/11 12:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Suggest you use 2x the h20/lye solution than recommended for powdered bark. If you get an emulsion layer and have problem with the solvent separating, you just add more water




Cheers mate
by "add more water" do you mean add more water + lye or just add more water?


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: SLiCeR]
    #14013750 - 02/23/11 01:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

It should be basic water, so add lye. Otherwise you will lower the ph level


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: enesi]
    #14013813 - 02/23/11 02:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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It should be basic water, so add lye. Otherwise you will lower the ph level



Thats what i was thinking but wasn't sure thanks :smile:


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: SLiCeR]
    #14014253 - 02/23/11 03:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Screw naphtha its...

the *water only* tek!
  • Make hot mimosa tea using tap water.
  • Filter out all solids.
  • Add lye.
  • Put aside in a warm place for a couple of hours.
  • Transfer to fridge for 3 or 4 days.
  • Collect DMT freebase from surface of liquid.
  • Rinse with tepid water.
  • Purify using solvent of your choice. Or vacuum sublimation.

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Sorry, no quantities, that'll have to be your homework!

Edit: water rinse added.


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: Mr E Guest]
    #14014593 - 02/23/11 03:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I've read that salt is also good at taking care of emultion layers


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: That.X.Jester]
    #14014650 - 02/23/11 03:55 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yes, salt is pretty good for breaking down emulsions. Another way is not to use solvent in the first place...! Apart from water, of course.


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: Mr E Guest]
    #14023944 - 02/25/11 03:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

buy naphtha via amazon...


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: fbi365]
    #14024408 - 02/25/11 08:44 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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buy naphtha via amazon...



Mehh i just using ronsonol instead


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: SLiCeR]
    #14025162 - 02/25/11 12:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Erowid states

"While naptha will work for recrystallization, a better solvent to use at this point is heptane. Heptane is available in Bestine®, a rubber cement remover available at art supply stores. [Note: We have been informed that not all types of Bestine® use heptane, so check to make sure that this is the sole ingredient.]"

My guess is this stuff should work just as good as naphtha.  Any opinions?


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: fbi365]
    #14026529 - 02/25/11 05:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, it works great, buts its way expensive compared to naphtha. You are fine off with extracting with naphtha and cleaning with the bestine


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: Mr E Guest]
    #14027056 - 02/25/11 07:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Mr E Guest said:
Screw naphtha its...

the *water only* tek!
  • Make hot mimosa tea using tap water.
  • Filter out all solids.
  • Add lye.
  • Put aside in a warm place for a couple of hours.
  • Transfer to fridge for 3 or 4 days.
  • Collect DMT freebase from surface of liquid.
  • Purify using solvent of your choice. Or vacuum sublimation.

A picture of what should (or might) happen after adding the lye:

Credit: Dagger, of the Nexus

Sorry, no quantities, that'll have to be your homework!




Damn I gotta try this. How's the yield?


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14030966 - 02/26/11 03:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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[...]the *water only* tek![...]
Damn I gotta try this. How's the yield?



Reports suggest yield is a bit lower than naphtha-based teks and the whole method is possibly a little capricious. SWIM has plans to apply some refinements once they have the time. Then further details will be posted. Sorry to be so vague, but I think it's worth checking out if you prefer to avoid inhaling naphtha fumes.


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: Mr E Guest]
    #14034480 - 02/27/11 05:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Also, isn't there a bit of an issue with lye contamination?


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #14034521 - 02/27/11 05:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Wash it with tepid water after. (Relevant post edited accordingly.) I think naphtha contamination of your living environment is at least as much of an issue.


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: fbi365]
    #14054922 - 03/02/11 02:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Erowid states

"While naptha will work for recrystallization, a better solvent to use at this point is heptane. Heptane is available in Bestine®, a rubber cement remover available at art supply stores. [Note: We have been informed that not all types of Bestine® use heptane, so check to make sure that this is the sole ingredient.]"

My guess is this stuff should work just as good as naphtha.  Any opinions?



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fbi365 said:
Erowid states

"While naptha will work for recrystallization, a better solvent to use at this point is heptane. Heptane is available in Bestine®, a rubber cement remover available at art supply stores. [Note: We have been informed that not all types of Bestine® use heptane, so check to make sure that this is the sole ingredient.]"

My guess is this stuff should work just as good as naphtha.  Any opinions?





It works great, if you want pure white crystal dmt "you can ooh and ahh at" whereas naphtha will pull a greater range of other active alkaloids, hence yellowey.

Depends what youre going for: Toluene and xylene for example can be used to pull ALL the active alkaloids -giving you gooey 'jungle spice'. A word of caution though,these solvents are carcinogenic.



If the extraction is done in a large pickle jar, nasty solvent fumes are in the most part kept locked away :cool:


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: UK Explorer]
    #14065852 - 03/04/11 11:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

fbi365 said:
Erowid states

"While naptha will work for recrystallization, a better solvent to use at this point is heptane. Heptane is available in Bestine®, a rubber cement remover available at art supply stores. [Note: We have been informed that not all types of Bestine® use heptane, so check to make sure that this is the sole ingredient.]"

My guess is this stuff should work just as good as naphtha.  Any opinions?



Quote:

fbi365 said:
Erowid states

"While naptha will work for recrystallization, a better solvent to use at this point is heptane. Heptane is available in Bestine®, a rubber cement remover available at art supply stores. [Note: We have been informed that not all types of Bestine® use heptane, so check to make sure that this is the sole ingredient.]"

My guess is this stuff should work just as good as naphtha.  Any opinions?





It works great, if you want pure white crystal dmt "you can ooh and ahh at" whereas naphtha will pull a greater range of other active alkaloids, hence yellowey.

Depends what youre going for: Toluene and xylene for example can be used to pull ALL the active alkaloids -giving you gooey 'jungle spice'. A word of caution though,these solvents are carcinogenic.



If the extraction is done in a large pickle jar, nasty solvent fumes are in the most part kept locked away :cool:



straight up exactly what i was thinking


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Re: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, [Re: SLiCeR]
    #14068323 - 03/04/11 09:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

isnt that bestine damn expensive? like using it would be awesome as hell but youd probably need bottles and bottles of it,
i would just use dnaptha for your base pulls and crystallize with bestine


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