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it stars saddam
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Has there ever been a black philosopher?
#6930377 - 05/17/07 01:51 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I can't think of a single one.
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forbiddendonut
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Re: Has there ever been a black philosopher? [Re: it stars saddam]
#6930391 - 05/17/07 01:55 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I consider myself to be somewhat of a black philosopher. Even though I'm not black. Nor am I a philosopher. Though I'll think about it. I can think about black philosophy. It worked.
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Lion
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Re: Has there ever been a black philosopher? [Re: forbiddendonut]
#6930397 - 05/17/07 01:57 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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Re: Has there ever been a black philosopher? [Re: Lion]
#6930435 - 05/17/07 02:09 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nigrodamus........ He predicts white people love Arsineo Hall because he makes Wayne Bradey look like Malcom X
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Re: Has there ever been a black philosopher? [Re: it stars saddam]
#6930464 - 05/17/07 02:14 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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This book review drops a few names, some of which you will probably recognize.
APA Book Review
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Afroshroomerican
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Re: Has there ever been a black philosopher? [Re: Veritas]
#6930484 - 05/17/07 02:20 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I hate to play the race card but its apt for this reply.
A lot of black achievements do not get deserved praise nor mention throughout history. So don't be surprised if you cannot find one in your immediate textbooks.
I even heard that some whites were a tad disgruntled by Halle Berry (who is half white) playing Nefertiti in an upcoming movie. Some falsely claim she was white....
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Re: Has there ever been a black philosopher? [Re: it stars saddam]
#6930485 - 05/17/07 02:20 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
it stars saddam said: I can't think of a single one.
They may have better things to do.
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Re: Has there ever been a black philosopher? [Re: Afroshroomerican]
#6930523 - 05/17/07 02:30 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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There are people who claim that Nefertiti was Caucasian? Sure, and King Tut was an Irish boy from Dublin.
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Afroshroomerican
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Re: Has there ever been a black philosopher? [Re: Veritas]
#6930540 - 05/17/07 02:38 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh yeah.
Stormfront had a proverbial fit when the History channel reconstructed her face from her skeleton: http://www.drdee.dsc.rmit.edu.au/news/nefertiti.jpg
which is a sharp contrast with the bust on display in Berlin with its pale skin and European bone structure:
http://www.statue.com/images/nefertiti-statue.jpg
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Re: Has there ever been a black philosopher? [Re: Afroshroomerican]
#6930559 - 05/17/07 02:43 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Those amazing forensic guys can determine earings from a skull. How do they do it?
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Re: Has there ever been a black philosopher? [Re: it stars saddam]
#6930563 - 05/17/07 02:44 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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W.E.B. Du Bois?
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Veritas said: There are people who claim that Nefertiti was Caucasian? Sure, and King Tut was an Irish boy from Dublin.
King Tut was Egyptian. Egyptian is caucasian.
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Re: Has there ever been a black philosopher? [Re: Purple_spore]
#6930565 - 05/17/07 02:46 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Purple_spore said: Nigrodamus........ He predicts white people love Arsineo Hall because he makes Wayne Bradey look like Malcom X
Listen: don't be riffing on my Lobstradamus angle. I did it first!
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slackophage
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Re: Has there ever been a black philosopher? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#6930588 - 05/17/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Damn straight there has:
Wesley Willis (RIP)
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Afroshroomerican
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Re: Has there ever been a black philosopher? [Re: JunkFood]
#6930609 - 05/17/07 03:00 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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JunkFood said: W.E.B. Du Bois?
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Veritas said: There are people who claim that Nefertiti was Caucasian? Sure, and King Tut was an Irish boy from Dublin.
King Tut was Egyptian. Egyptian is caucasian.
Today yes; Then--no.
1) Ancient Egyptians made CLEAR distinctions between themselves and those of other races. They depict Europeans as MUCH lighter in complexion with pointer features. http://www.catchpenny.org/images/seti1a.gif http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehistory/egypt/government/tutankhamun.jpg
To say they were black would be an assumption; but to say they were Caucasian would be a far fetched assumption. Anyone of that color and those features by American standards would be black.
2) The Moors (Ancient Arabs) are described by the Romans as being very dark. 3) The earrings were placed on her judging by Pyramid paintings. Earrings/lipstick were popular adornments of Egyptian royalty (including men at times) 4) The above comments are a testament to my above statement :-)
I'm surprised I didn't get flamed. coolbeans.
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Re: Has there ever been a black philosopher? [Re: it stars saddam]
#6930612 - 05/17/07 03:01 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Does the sun set in the west?
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JunkFood
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Re: Has there ever been a black philosopher? [Re: Afroshroomerican]
#6930624 - 05/17/07 03:06 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Afroshroomerican said: Today yes; Then--no.
1) Ancient Egyptians made CLEAR distinctions between themselves and those of other races. They depict Europeans as MUCH lighter in complexion with pointer features. http://www.catchpenny.org/images/seti1a.gif http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehistory/egypt/government/tutankhamun.jpg
To say they were black would be an assumption; but to say they were Caucasian would be a far fetched assumption. Anyone of that color and those features by American standards would be black.
2) The Moors (Ancient Arabs) are described by the Romans as being very dark. 3) The earrings were placed on her judging by Pyramid paintings. Earrings/lipstick were popular adornments of Egyptian royalty (including men at times) 4) The above comments are a testament to my above statement :-)
I'm surprised I didn't get flamed. coolbeans.
No
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The concept of a "Caucasian race" or Varietas Caucasia was first proposed under those names by the German scientist Johann Friedrich Blumenbach (1752-1840).[5] His studies based the classification of the Caucasian race primarily on skull features...
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The Caucasian race (sometimes called the Caucasoid race) is defined by the Oxford English Dictionary as, "relating to a broad division of humankind covering peoples from Europe, the Middle East, South Asia and North Africa"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race
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Afroshroomerican
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Re: Has there ever been a black philosopher? [Re: JunkFood]
#6930655 - 05/17/07 03:17 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sigh......................................
Yes, I admitted the EGYPTIANS today are Caucasian.
The depictions; however, are not. If you say that they are then I guess a whole plethora of "black people" today are Caucasian.
I'm sorry but those lips are not Caucasian; unless the Egyptians were all distant relatives of Angelina Jolie
http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehistory/egypt/government/tutankhamun.jpg
And even if they weren't "Black", theyd most definately be black by American Standards which still abides by the one drop rule.
If blue-eyed/NATURALLY dark blonde Vanessa Williams is black http://www.ymcstore.com/ProductImages/detail_vanessa_williams.jpg
Then Tut and Nefertitti would be no exception. They'd at least considered "Light skin blacks"
And let's not even get into the negroid Sphinx. :-)
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Re: Has there ever been a black philosopher? [Re: Afroshroomerican]
#6930679 - 05/17/07 03:25 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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So, you're saying they're Egyptian but that you think they look Black, so they were Black? They're all distant relatives of Angelina Jolie
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Afroshroomerican
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Re: Has there ever been a black philosopher? [Re: JunkFood]
#6930723 - 05/17/07 03:37 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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This is why its hard to find a black philosopher :-). Some people will fight things that give merit to ANYTHING black.
No, I said the features that they both exhibit are non-caucasian.
The lips and circular skullshapes of both Tut and Nefertitti are NOT Caucasian traits.
Why do you think there was so much chaos over her lips being shown that full? What reason would stormfront have to be so adverse to that depiction? Why did they complain about her forehead and "niggerlips"?
And I said they remain racially ambiguous, but are undeniably closer to black. Do some research on French exploration of Egypt and the Sphinx. Why were they so bothered by its "caucasian" lips and nose?
Also explain to me why Ancient Egyptian busts appear to be VERY fair-skinned when in actually they depict themselves as very dark ?
Hell in movies they have Germanic looking people playing Egyptians LOL.
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Re: Has there ever been a black philosopher? [Re: Afroshroomerican]
#6930911 - 05/17/07 04:31 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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How much melanin one has in their skin has little bearing on thinking thoughts, but the way I understand it, Jesus had black skin (contrary to most of the pictures of him looking like he was from Sweden.)
And, in my humble opinion, the only reason you haven't heard of others is the fact that other races aren't so crazy about forcing their junk down another race's throat like the white race is.
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