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Abuse Potential
    #6927191 - 05/16/07 09:59 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Wait! Don't throw stones yet! :wink:

First of all - I like mushrooms. I use psilocybe semilanceata that grow in Polish mountains. What I've noticed is the fact that the next day after the trip I feel that I want to do it again. I would discard it as my own, subjective case but one of my friends have exactly this same. He says that psilocybin has a potential for making a habitat that can lead to drug abuse. I don't consider psychedelics a drug but I never had this kind of feeling after a mescaline or acid trip.

What are your experiences? Do you feel this same, mild urge to take more mushrooms the next day after a trip? Or the opposite?
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Re: Abuse Potential [Re: Kras]
    #6927211 - 05/16/07 10:03 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Shrooms definitely have abuse potential. My brother would use a 1/4-ounce once or twice a week for several months, even after I told him I was concerned for him and he should give it a rest for a while. Eventually he got HPPD and decided to take a break on his own, which he has largely stuck to.

Personally I could never get stuck on shrooms like that, but I feel like I definitely could with acid if I had a lot. I almost always feel like doing it again the day after.

Regardless of rapid tolerance buildup and complete lack of withdrawal syndrome, I believe any chemical that radically alters brain function can be misused, with various harmful consequences.


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Re: Abuse Potential [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #6927262 - 05/16/07 10:12 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

From my experience, the next day after doing shrooms, I think to myself, wow...what an awesome night, but I'm not doing that again for a while. So no, I personally don't believe mushrooms have abuse potential. Its kind of hard to, you have to double the dose if you expect to feel the same effects from the day before... Now Marijuana, is a diff story. I'll say, ok im gonna get stoned tonight and save it for a few days. When morning comes, I still don't want to smoke. But when night starts rolling around, I have an urge to get stoned. Mushrooms are nothing like that...


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Re: Abuse Potential [Re: aDoS]
    #6927270 - 05/16/07 10:13 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

EDIT: never mind!


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Re: Abuse Potential [Re: aDoS]
    #6927295 - 05/16/07 10:19 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I deleted it because I forgot to make a poll :wink:


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Re: Abuse Potential [Re: Kras]
    #6927311 - 05/16/07 10:20 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

hah never mind then


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Re: Abuse Potential [Re: Kras]
    #6927780 - 05/16/07 11:57 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

After good mushroom trips I know I look forward to the next one and want to trip again, but for me the experiences are too much to have, say, more than once a week. I think most people I know that have taken a bunch of trips in a short period of time kind of say "alright, I need some recuperation time." I would find it hard to treat mushrooms the same way I treat cigarettes or weed, ya know?


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Re: Abuse Potential [Re: Aspartame187]
    #6927791 - 05/17/07 12:00 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, whether it's incredible or weirding me out, tripping is something that I can't let myself do to a large degree more than once a week or so.  Recently, I was a passenger for a pair of 4-5 hour car rides both ways for a weekend right after I'd eaten an eighth, so I ate a cap or a nice-sized stem for each of those, but that only got me through the journey :mushroom2:


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Re: Abuse Potential [Re: Aspartame187]
    #6927809 - 05/17/07 12:06 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I don't see an abuse potential, for the reason that when you star trying to abuse it, like tripping once or more a week sooner or later you'll end up having more and more bad trips, so then it isn't fun to trip anymore and you quit all together or for a period of time.
I know when I first had an endless supply I would trip 3-7 times a month and after a couple months it got to be way too much. The trips weren't fun, it was nothing new, it felt more like a total mindfuck and it seemed like my visuals were gone, I started having half way bad trips and was wondering the whole time why are you tripping again? The visuals were prolly there but I was so use to em I quit noticing them, even when I looked for em. So anyway imo there is no potential for long term abuse.


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Re: Abuse Potential [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #6927998 - 05/17/07 12:43 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

The abuse certainly limits itself in the longterm. But for the month or two (or more) it takes to hit that limit, you can really let things drop in normal reality.


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Re: Abuse Potential [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #6928007 - 05/17/07 12:49 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

there is definitely abuse potential just like everything else. everything have abuse potential. i personally dont see the need to abuse a substance. i dont understand how anyone can say there is absolutely no abuse potential. i have seen people who abuse drugs and i dont care for it. there is a difference in spiritual use, recreational use, and abusal use. it may be a finite line but i definitely think there is a line and i have seen people cross it(or at least what i could call crossing the line).

i think the majority of people dont abuse it but that may just be me thiking that people in general are genuinely good/responsible with their drug use.


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