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naNOx9
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golden teachers and i didnt trip
#6923416 - 05/16/07 05:05 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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here is a picture of my first flush of one brf cake that i put in a casing. this is my first grow ever
http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mymushroomsil4.jpg

i waited until the veil broke, then i gave 2 away. the other three mushrooms i let dry behind my computer where the computer fan blew on them.
dry, all 3 weighed together 10 grams even. i ate 6 grams and my fiance ate 4
then we went for a really long drive
we never tripped. we started being real goofy and laughing at everything and we admitted we both kinda felt out of it... you know, like not in our element... but sometime people get like that when they are tired... i dont know
neither of us tripped everything looked fine, sounded fine
the only thing was it was hard to concentrate and we were in a goofy mood, just acting retarded...
this is the 2nd time i've done shrooms, the first time i took them i got them from a friend and i had a good trip
my fiance never shroomed before
why do you think my mushrooms didnt work? maybe the heat behind my computer was too much? are did my golden teachers just suck? they bruised blue real bad when i broke them up when they were wet so i know they had something in them.
what do you guys think went wrong?
i waiting for my second flush to pin now and i want to trip next time
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i took them at 2:30 in the morning (i work night shift so on my day of i stay up all night), i waited 2 hours and at 4:30 i still felt no effects... and i wasnt having fun so i went for ride... straight down the interstate, i was damn near the only car
so no one was at risk because the stuff didnt work and no one was on the road
Edited by naNOx9 (05/16/07 05:25 AM)
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Hanky
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Re: golden teachers and i didnt trip [Re: naNOx9]
#6923424 - 05/16/07 05:15 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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You ate shrooms then drove a car on public roads?
It's a good thing they didn't work, do you think you could manage to be any more irresponsible?
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naNOx9
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Re: golden teachers and i didnt trip [Re: Hanky]
#6923431 - 05/16/07 05:22 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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ok let me explain actually... i took them at 2:30 in the morning (i work night shift so on my day of i stay up all night), i waited 2 hours and at 4:30 i still felt no effects... and i wasnt having fun so i went for ride... straight down the interstate, i was damn near the only car.
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Hanky
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Re: golden teachers and i didnt trip [Re: naNOx9]
#6923436 - 05/16/07 05:31 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Maybe you should have said that in your first post.
I'll change the rating I gave you now.
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Re: golden teachers and i didnt trip [Re: naNOx9]
#6923439 - 05/16/07 05:34 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Also, I don't think those shrooms were dried out properly. There doesn't look like 10g dry on that cake.
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naNOx9
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Re: golden teachers and i didnt trip [Re: Hanky]
#6923452 - 05/16/07 05:44 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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yeah they werent cracker dry yet
but i didnt want them behind the fan too long because its hot air
and i heard that heat makes them lose potency so i didnt want them to be their too long... but once they looked like they shriveled up, i put them in a baggy
do you think thats it then... the air fanning over them is really hot and they were there for about half an hour or so
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Re: golden teachers and i didnt trip [Re: naNOx9]
#6923459 - 05/16/07 05:50 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Heat isn't as much as an issue as most people think, you need constant high heat for a sustained period to break down a lot of the actives. For instance I always make coffee when I do shrooms, I pour boiling water straight onto dried and powdered shrooms with no loss of potency.
Next time you should weigh them when wet and caculate your dry yeild from there If you don't have time etc to dry them out cracker dry.
GT's are a good strain from my own experince and always did the job just as well as any other cube.
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Re: golden teachers and i didnt trip [Re: Hanky]
#6923669 - 05/16/07 07:30 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Although it was probably just shitty growers, ive never had a GT that was any good, just (un)luck of the draw I guess. My guess is that because they were still wet, you underestimated the water content and just didnt eat enough, ive seen that happen alot too.
Dont worry about heat, especially with just a fan. People on here use dehydrators at temps over 150 without a problem.
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Re: golden teachers and i didnt trip [Re: dedjam]
#6924579 - 05/16/07 11:27 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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eat them fresh, let the soak in lemon juice for 20mins and make tea.
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Re: golden teachers and i didnt trip [Re: sandman_130]
#6924981 - 05/16/07 12:51 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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From my experience as a grower, i´ll say you have max 50gr wet shrooms there. From the looks of it the stems were probably hollow (if they get thicker suddenly a cm above the cake, they usually are) and its not as much wheight as it looks (although they look really nice ) So from that you gave almost 20gr away. That leaves you with 30gr wet left, from which you ate 20 and you beloved 10 (that is the max wet amount i give you, it was probably less ) I´ll say the effects you described are totally in the normal range for those doses, if you take batch variability and the different threshold of people into account ^^. So don´t worry, just grow some more, wheight them out more carefully and either consume them wet in a nice smoothie or something (what i would reccomend) or let them dry out.
ALso its much better if you start someone new to the world of psychodelics with a low dose, rather than a full blown 4gr trip. Shame on you that you tried, even with a experienced sitter (wich you are certainly not) i would never throw someone in such deep unknown waters! Consider yourself lucky!
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Re: golden teachers and i didnt trip [Re: naNOx9]
#6925027 - 05/16/07 01:01 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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BTW you can go to like 36 degrees Celsius for about 20 minutes before it even starts to have an affect on potency. You think your computer fan is capable of that?
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Re: golden teachers and i didnt trip [Re: GoodbyeOrb]
#6925039 - 05/16/07 01:04 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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GoodbyeOrb said: BTW you can go to like 36 degrees Celsius for about 20 minutes before it even starts to have an affect on potency. You think your computer fan is capable of that?
Where did you get that information? 36C = ~97F...most dehydrators START at that level. You can go MUCH higher than that without any worry about potency loss.
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Re: golden teachers and i didnt trip [Re: dedjam]
#6925048 - 05/16/07 01:07 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hmmm, i thought I read one of RR's posts that said potency loss begins at 97 after 20 mins. Sorry about that.
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Re: golden teachers and i didnt trip [Re: GoodbyeOrb]
#6925056 - 05/16/07 01:09 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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GoodbyeOrb said: Hmmm, i thought I read one of RR's posts that said potency loss begins at 97 after 20 mins. Sorry about that.
I havent seen that, and RR really knows his shit, but that just doesnt sound right. Its cool though, maybe he will show up and shed some light...
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Re: golden teachers and i didnt trip [Re: dedjam]
#6925062 - 05/16/07 01:09 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I probably misread...
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Re: golden teachers and i didnt trip [Re: GoodbyeOrb]
#6925080 - 05/16/07 01:14 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, just went searching through his posts (it's like a frickin' library, their should be a special "Search RogerRabbit" button) and I found the response below. I must have read that 97 degree crap somewhere else, but i know who to trust! 
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RogerRabbit said: None of the above explains why you can cook them on a BBQ grill at 1000 degrees and they're still potent as hell. In addition, people have boiled them into tea for years, and if anything, it hits harder than eating them when they've never been exposed to heat. There's entirely too much opinion and no facts being presented.
Long term heat 'may' have an effect, but short term heat seems not to cause noticeable degradation. People with actual experience using food dehydrators report little to no loss in potency from drying that way. RR
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Re: golden teachers and i didnt trip [Re: GoodbyeOrb]
#6925086 - 05/16/07 01:16 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
GoodbyeOrb said: Yeah, just went searching through his posts (it's like a frickin' library, their should be a special "Search RogerRabbit" button) and I found the response below. I must have read that 97 degree crap somewhere else, but i know who to trust! 
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RogerRabbit said: None of the above explains why you can cook them on a BBQ grill at 1000 degrees and they're still potent as hell. In addition, people have boiled them into tea for years, and if anything, it hits harder than eating them when they've never been exposed to heat. There's entirely too much opinion and no facts being presented.
Long term heat 'may' have an effect, but short term heat seems not to cause noticeable degradation. People with actual experience using food dehydrators report little to no loss in potency from drying that way. RR
damn, you are quick on that research. Thanks for clearing that up
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Re: golden teachers and i didnt trip [Re: dedjam]
#6925095 - 05/16/07 01:18 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Don't thank me, thank RR. I just know how to use the search feature really well.
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naNOx9
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Re: golden teachers and i didnt trip [Re: GoodbyeOrb]
#6925335 - 05/16/07 02:25 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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thanks guys for your responses...
next time i'll dry them out all the way and eat a more accurate dosage
thanks again guys
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