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Need Help choosing a psychedelic
    #6921737 - 05/15/07 08:18 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Hey shroomery,

I have decided to take a break from psilocybin mushrooms.

so.........

I would like know what everyone thinks I should try first. I've done morning glory once with no effects, and amanitas as well with no effects. I plan on doing higher doses this time.

so shroomers? What ocean should I jump into?

any good/bad experiences appreciated(I've read tons of trip reports so please dont call me a noob, just saying share if you like)

Also what is your dosage with the selected psychedelic and then if you could tell me what would be you dosage for an average mushroom trip.

eg.

HBRW 7 seeds
Mushrooms 3grams

Thanks for any replies!
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Re: Need Help choosing a psychedelic [Re: sandman_130]
    #6921762 - 05/15/07 08:22 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

If you are phsycologically prepared, I would same take some peyote. Just remember to be in a CHILL setting and cancel your plans for the next three days...

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Re: Need Help choosing a psychedelic [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
    #6921822 - 05/15/07 08:39 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

lol yea I have the whole weekend. The reason why I am asking for wisdom from the community is because I have been a mushroom man for about 8 years, and in the last 2 years I became a father. So I only trip on mushrooms maybe 3 or 4 times a year, and when I was younger I really wanted to explore all the psychedelics this planet has to offer. I've done acid a few times and tried pervanius torch once, but the method I used was pretty ranch ball and then I made it worse by adding milk.

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Re: Need Help choosing a psychedelic [Re: sandman_130]
    #6921863 - 05/15/07 08:46 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

How were your previous acid experiences? It's my favourite psychedelic, and thorough excursions into acid land can be enlightening as well as hugely enjoyable. A lot of people find ayahuasca hard to handle, but if you're experienced it shouldn't be too much of a problem. 3 grams of syrian rue and 8-12 grams of mimosa hostilis is a good starting dose. Acid is harder to give you dosage suggestion, since potency varies hugely. If you manage to get hold of any, start with one tab, then work your way up to a dosage you find to be to your liking.


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Re: Need Help choosing a psychedelic [Re: sandman_130]
    #6921868 - 05/15/07 08:47 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Id say lsd.

Thats just me.

You would have some very specific requirements for ayahuasca because you apparently cant feel amanitas or morning glories and im sure you took enough to feel it.

Im not about to give any info about that though.

If you want to use cacti, extract alot of it, or make tea and try not to puke or you will likely just be let down again.

I dont know how much shrooms you often take per dose, so I wouldnt have a clue as to what you should try next.

But ya, lsd.

Hbwr would be a good choice too. If you cant feel it, just take more next time as long as they are quality seeds.

10-17 seeds can make you trip harder than you can imagine.
I only say that because you dont seem to feel this stuff very easily(although this may depend on how quickly you puked or if you puked at all).

Lsd and mushrooms dont have as many circumstantial effects.
They just simply work like a charm.
You shouldnt mess with ayahuasca unless you want to read up about it and know how to use it, and how SERIOUS ayahuasca can be. The ultimate.

Smoked dmt maybe?

Ever try salvia?

So id say in order.

smoked dmt
LSD
HBWR
ayahuasca


If you want to make it easy on yourself though, and just simply trip balls, the rcs are out there too.
They are as efficiant as lsd.
Take any pure chemical and you will feel it unless you are a fugging vegetable.

When buying mescaline pills, just accept it for what it is.
Its not mescaline. Its just a so called "RC".
They work great too. Some of them are pretty damn amazing.
They call it mescaline because they can.
Same family usually............less mgs required.

Many people selling mescaline will actually give you a nice price if you basically fuck with them and ask them what the chemical really is.

I have done this a number of times and seldom buy, but they are usually selling 2ci or 2cb, and laugh when you call them out for calling it mescaline.
Then again, some dealers will swear that its mescaline, dont know it to be true, and wouldnt know any better just because the substance is highly psychedelic and works VERY well anyways.

So thats what I think you should take.
Anything but ayahuasca unless you know what you are doing.

We dont need another asshole saying that ayahuasca doesnt work because they still didnt know what they were doing after their starting dose.

Ayahuasca has its place as a first time with psychedelics, and a last time.
Only if you have some idea what you are doing though.

Those who tripped for 1 hour, didnt make ayahuasca.
They made a quick fix, and they hopefully learned how to use the many plants often included in the brew..


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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

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Re: Need Help choosing a psychedelic [Re: yageman]
    #6921900 - 05/15/07 08:54 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

As to the question: "what ocean should i jump into?" i would chose the Atlantic (don't ask why). and the drug you should choose (if you don't have access to the Atlantic), would in my opinion be: LSA or LSD, maybe a cacti if you can't procure some LSA/LSD :grin: .
good luck + good vibes. (have fun)


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Re: Need Help choosing a psychedelic [Re: yageman]
    #6921943 - 05/15/07 09:06 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I usually use roughly 7grams of mushrooms for a trip. Ive done many higher doses and many lower, but 7g seems to be my lucky number. I've also use Rue with mushrooms not sure on exact weight I just used 2-4 tablespoons varying on the dosage of the mushrooms.

I've only had pleasant experiences on acid, I love the laid back atmosphere it creates. Ive Only had 2-3 hits(per trip) and only experienced it 3 times.

I recently just moved so my chances of finding acid would result in a miracle.

Ayahausca has had my interest for many years now, but I have also had this feeling that I should wonder else where and save this one for another time in my life.

Salvia I never liked, keep in mind I didnt give it much of a chance though. First time I did it I broke through and had a very quick, weird, dreamy experience. Although it was good it left me with a headache and feeling corrupted, my gut told me to stay away.


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Re: Need Help choosing a psychedelic [Re: sandman_130]
    #6921959 - 05/15/07 09:10 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I am going out of the poll and going to say smoked DMT.


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Re: Need Help choosing a psychedelic [Re: sandman_130]
    #6922001 - 05/15/07 09:21 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

If you have been taking that many mushrooms at a time, then use ayahuasca and figure out how to with your own low dose experiments with your plants.

If you are a 7 gram type guy.

Just use the ayahuasca.

You are most certainly ready.

CERTAINLY........

Part of me is simply saying that yes, you should try ayahuasca.

You most certainly are ready.

Aim high with your dose.
This is the only time Id say that, because I think you need it and you will probably treat your brew like candy, then will take a massive dose, and will have your ass handed to you.

Aim high buddy.
Use what ever plants you like.

May I suggest 50 grams of viridis and 6 grams of rue, and chew some of the rue(2.5 grams)?
May I suggest a two day session with such a trip?

You do realize that this could end some peoples lives as they know it.

If you so desire, then take that dose.
What I just said is entirely irresponsible, but it will show you a thing or two if your viridis is high quality.

(dont anyone take this dose if they have never used ayahuasca as it is insane).
Just this guy.

He, the guy who treats mushrooms like candy I mean.....

Not judging you really aside from what I know about people who dose like you.

You could use some ayahuasca.
And lots of it.

I am not saying anything aside from the fact that I feel you are more than ready.

If 7 grams is your magic dried gram number, then I would very seriously suggest ayahuasca at a large dose.

Good luck in that place. If that is still avarage to you, take more and learn how to make a better and more efficient brew.
There are many brews out there, and I think you are more than ready to fuck around with them for your own good.

At the point you are at Id suggest a small amount of datura in the brew, in all honesty.

Be your own shaman brother.


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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

Edited by yageman (05/15/07 09:34 PM)

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Re: Need Help choosing a psychedelic [Re: yageman]
    #6922681 - 05/16/07 12:04 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Well i'm convinced, time to do some more reading on ayahausca. I will try the brew but definetly start off with low dosing it, see how the first couple hours go and the drink some more if im not at a desired state.

I heard of people blacking out on ayahausca, is that common even if you continuely use it? or is just a side effect that may happen to some people? If so I better lock my doors.

How bad is the nasuea/vomit factor on this brew? Does weed help? Although if not I dont mind the sick trips.


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Re: Need Help choosing a psychedelic [Re: sandman_130]
    #6924084 - 05/16/07 09:24 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

since you have previous experiance with shrooms, I'd say LSD,
LSA's problably not as intense as your used to,
and LSD is a nice solid psycadelic...hard to find, but it was made for tripping!
i have tried amanitas too with no effect, half a bag no effect : C  and i have'nt heard much...
Cacti would be my second choice, but lsd is cleaner than that,

enjoy your tripping!
oh! and if you do do the cacti, (which im guessing you might cause acids hard to find...)
Trichocereus Bridgesii is supposed to be more powerful than san pedro and sometimes? even peyote and its legal,  :smile:


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Re: Need Help choosing a psychedelic [Re: sapidmother]
    #6924092 - 05/16/07 09:26 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

i dont know anything (well just a tid bit but nthing really) about Ayahausca so... i have nothing to say about it,


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Re: Need Help choosing a psychedelic [Re: sapidmother]
    #6924475 - 05/16/07 11:06 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

LSA


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Re: Need Help choosing a psychedelic [Re: TurntableJunky]
    #6924497 - 05/16/07 11:10 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

DMT.


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