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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: CureCat]
    #6925249 - 05/16/07 02:03 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Dunno who Mr. Lif is, but i was referring specifically to popular music- stuff you hear on lots of radio stations.
Surely, Muse and NIN are not the first to bash on Bush.




Yeah, Lif is one of those guys who's popular if you know the scene (so not really popular at all.) Here's the second verse to one of his song "Home of the Brave." I'll admit, it isn't the best verse ever, but you get the idea.

Headline: Bush steals the presidency
He needs the backing of the media what could the remedy be?
The country's headed for recession reminiscent of the Great Depression
Are lives worth a world of power? Easy question
Planes hit the towers and the Pentagon
Killing those the government wasn't dependant on
It's easy to control the scared so they keep us in fear
With their favorite Middle Eastern demon named Bin Laden this year
Bush disguises blood lust as patriotism
Convincing the living to love "Operation Let's Get 'Em"
But when he realized we don't support their attacks
They needed something to distract, hmm, anthrax
This further demonizes Afghanis
So Americans cheer while we kill their innocent families
And what better place to start a war
To build a pipeline to get the oil that they had wanted before
America supported the Taliban
To get Russia out of Afghanistan
That's how they got the arms in
They're in a war against the Northern Alliance
And we can't build a pipeline in hostile environments
Here's what your history books won't show:
You're a dead man for fucking with American dough
They killed several birds with one stone
While you're at home with anti-terrorism up in your dome
But my eyes are wide open and my TV is off
Great, 'cause I save on my electricity cost
And you can wave that piece of shit flag if you dare
But they killed us because we've been killing them for years


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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: CureCat]
    #7045411 - 06/14/07 09:54 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

That's deep.


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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: FrenchSocialist]
    #7045429 - 06/14/07 10:03 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: chemiKalz]
    #7045531 - 06/14/07 10:46 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

this is good too.

BRIGHT EYES LYRICS

"When The President Talks To God"

When the president talks to God
Are the conversations brief or long?
Does he ask to rape our women’s' rights
And send poor farm kids off to die?
Does God suggest an oil hike
When the president talks to God?

When the president talks to God
Are the consonants all hard or soft?
Is he resolute all down the line?
Is every issue black or white?
Does what God say ever change his mind
When the president talks to God?

When the president talks to God
Does he fake that drawl or merely nod?
Agree which convicts should be killed?
Where prisons should be built and filled?
Which voter fraud must be concealed
When the president talks to God?

When the president talks to God
I wonder which one plays the better cop
We should find some jobs. the ghetto's broke
No, they're lazy, George, I say we don't
Just give 'em more liquor stores and dirty coke
That's what God recommends

When the president talks to God
Do they drink near beer and go play golf
While they pick which countries to invade
Which Muslim souls still can be saved?
I guess god just calls a spade a spade
When the president talks to God

When the president talks to God
Does he ever think that maybe he's not?
That that voice is just inside his head
When he kneels next to the presidential bed
Does he ever smell his own bullshit
When the president talks to God?

I doubt it

I doubt it



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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: greeniyedgirl]
    #7045948 - 06/14/07 12:38 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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Immortal Technique - Mos Def - DJ Green Lantern:
Bush Knocked Down the Towers

YouTube
MP3

Bin Laden didn't blow up the projects
It was you, nigga
Tell the truth, nigga
Bush knocked down the towers

I pledge no allegiance, nigga fuck the president's speeches
I'm baptized by America and covered in leeches
The dirty water that bleaches your soul and your facial features
Drownin' you in propaganda that they spit through the speakers
And if you speak about the evil that the government does
The Patriot Act'll track you to the type of your blood
They try to frame you, and say you was tryna sell drugs
And throw a federal indictment on niggaz to show you love
This shit is run by fake Christians, fake politicians
Look at they mansions, then look at the conditions you live in
All they talk about is terrorism on television
They tell you to listen, but they don't really tell you they mission
They funded Al-Qaeda, and now they blame the Muslim religion
Even though Bin Laden, was a CIA tactician
They gave him billions of dollars, and they funded his purpose
Fahrenheit 9/11, that's just scratchin' the surface

They say the rebels in Iraq still fight for Saddam
But that's bullshit, I'll show you why it's totally wrong
Cuz if another country invaded the hood tonight
It'd be warfare through Harlem, and Washington Heights
I wouldn't be fightin' for Bush or White America's dream
I'd be fightin' for my people's survival and self-esteem
I wouldn't fight for racist churches from the south, my nigga
I'd be fightin' to keep the occupation out, my nigga
You ever clock someone who talk shit, or look at you wrong?
Imagine if they shot at you, and was rapin' your moms
And of course Saddam Hussein had chemical weapons
We sold him that shit, after Ronald Reagan's election
Mercenary contractors fightin' a new era
Corporate military bankin' off the war on terror
They controllin' the ghetto, with the failed attack
Tryna distract the fact that they engineerin' the crack
So I'm strapped like Lee Malvo holdin' a sniper rifle
These bullets'll touch your kids, and I don't mean like Michael
Your body be sent to the morgue, stripped down and recycled
I fire on house niggaz that support you and like you
Cuz innocent people get murdered in the struggle daily
And poor people never get shit and struggle daily
This ain't no alien conspiracy theory, this shit is real
Written on the dollar underneath the Masonic seal



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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: chemiKalz]
    #7046051 - 06/14/07 01:08 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Ahh--how Flattery by any other name smells just as sweet.


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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: xeallos]
    #7046083 - 06/14/07 01:16 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I think politics is a driver for deep passion to a lot of people-- why not musicians?

My only problem comes when metaphor and symbolism, which are powerful and universal messengers, are replaced with cheap, obvious jabs.

It's a lame shortcut taken by uninspired and lazy bandwagon-hoppers IMO.
Even my favorite band/singer is guilty of this in a few of the songs from his recent album, Year Zero-- some of them are fucking amazing-- The Good Soldier, God Given, My Violent Heart... full of feeling and an awesome vibe... others are embarrassingly unimaginative and blatantly anti George W. Bush-- "Capital G" being the worst offender I think.

In 10 years people are going to listen to that song and think-- why did this guy waste his talent on bashing a single man when our entire way of life, and all of us, played a part in allowing what's happening today to happen. George W will be forgotten-- he's a bit player in American History, despite what the hyperventilating intelligentsia would have you believe.
It is just lame-- think about the "Cold War" songs of the 80's-- they have 1/10th of the meaning that they once did... their shelf life is expired.

Now think about some of the anti-war songs of the 60's-- the ones that are still around are still here because they had a powerful message that didn't take opportunistic political jabs at individuals-- they made thoughtful and powerful observations on culture and society-- sentiments that are everlasting and always relevant.


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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: coAsTal]
    #7046195 - 06/14/07 01:43 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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coAsTal said:
In 10 years people are going to listen to that song and think-- why did this guy waste his talent on bashing a single man when our entire way of life, and all of us, played a part in allowing what's happening today to happen. George W will be forgotten-- \




Bush is a symbol. The front man. Trashing him is symbolic. It may be temporary, but then again, so is everything in politics.


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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: coAsTal]
    #7046221 - 06/14/07 01:47 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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In 10 years people are going to listen to that song and think-- why did this guy waste his talent on bashing a single man when our entire way of life, and all of us, played a part in allowing what's happening today to happen. George W will be forgotten-- he's a bit player in American History, despite what the hyperventilating intelligentsia would have you believe.



:thumbup:

How about this song:

10.000 YEARS (PEACE IS NOW)
===========================

the world is burning down
can't you smell the smoke in the air?
war, disease, and famine
this demon, she is everywhere

poets and preachers and politicians
they've all had their say
and we got 10,000 years
devoted to nothing
but tomorrow and yesterday

if all of the ignorance in the world
passed a second ago
what would you say?
who would you obey?
I am here to say that

peace is now

mr. president
I hereby pardon you of all your crimes
for they are just as much mine

selfishness and separation have led me
to believe that the world is not my problem
the world is not my problem
I am the world
and your are the world

if all the ignorance in the world
passed a second ago
what would you say?
who would you obey?
I am here to say that

peace is now

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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: Viveka]
    #7046260 - 06/14/07 01:54 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Viveka said:


mr. president
I hereby pardon you of all your crimes
for they are just as much mine





No sorry, I didn't start a war that got over a 100,000 people killed on bad intel. Try again.


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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: FrenchSocialist]
    #7046286 - 06/14/07 02:00 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I loved the beginning of Xzibit's 'Weapons of mass destruction' album.



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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: FrenchSocialist]
    #7046290 - 06/14/07 02:01 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Do you drive a car?

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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: Viveka]
    #7046295 - 06/14/07 02:02 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

No.


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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: FrenchSocialist]
    #7046306 - 06/14/07 02:03 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Pay taxes?

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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: Viveka]
    #7046320 - 06/14/07 02:08 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Definitely.


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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: FrenchSocialist]
    #7046342 - 06/14/07 02:13 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

See?

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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: Viveka]
    #7046367 - 06/14/07 02:19 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Viveka said:
See?




Oh yeah, just like if you buy pot you are supporting terrorism.

http://www.dpna.org/drugarticles/9drugs_terrorism.htm

" America's Drug Habit Funds Terrorism"


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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: FrenchSocialist]
    #7046453 - 06/14/07 02:47 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

a british rap artist.. he knocks western society in general; not just the us.

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From the furthest point East to the wildest West
Powers travelled round the planet on a bloody conquest
European kings and priests with omnipotence
Soldiers freakin out in foreign lands killing citizens
And worse still spreading germs and plagues
Now is so much a result of those bad old days
From the town hall, to inner-city architecture
From the money in Surrey to sweatshops up in Leicester
Casino alcholics in the Mid-West,
junkies in Brazil feel the effects of mass death
The urge to learn killed by a greed for piles of gold
And churches justifying lives being sold
Though the culprits change, control rarely shifts
Only China comes close to even f#@*^!g with this
This world we call Earth and the system I dis
A lifestyle full of work where we barely exist
Look at Chile now - decimated native populations held down
The rich, white powers holding on
With British backing like Malaysia�s arms buying
The same gang�s running the show
And I�m trying to see through this and not become a lone hitman
Out to kill that bitch Maggie Thatcher with a sick plan
Sick bitch, supporting Pinochet in extradition
On telly, she put my brain into a strange position
So do you come to terms with devilish ways?
Or do you try to escape, run away or start to pray ?
I try to think about the positive things
One Love, no queen, one god, no king

I wish I had the will to fight back
Be at the World Trade Centre all dressed in black
Me and an angry pack
Instead I just rap and give back
And see a rich life and think..I still want to live that
It�s so subtle how they muddle us
Now life is so complex we let the small things trouble us
And revolution ? Forget that for the one fact
We don�t have the arms to even try to compete
It�s even easier to keep your head down and stay asleep
And while you�re lying there counting see your face in them sheep
And that�s deep but not as deep as losing a child,
Seeing his teeth crushed by the rifle butt by your village hut
Pure grief, thanks to far away beef
Fried in messed-up religion half-baked in belief
So I won�t stop rappimg till you get my drift
That we�re held in the Grip getting sorely dissed
Capitalists are we, we pretend we�re not
Buying better trainers each year, connecting dots
We go from first job to next job, to mortgage to kids
Make it harder to be happy 9-to-5in� to live
Me I�m striving to give but I�ll hustle like mad
Just to get ahead in life
I need money so bad, yeah I�m pissed now
So do you get my gist now ?
If hell existed, half the world�s already in the lift down�..

In the Grip�






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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: FrenchSocialist]
    #7046454 - 06/14/07 02:47 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Right. Actually I know exactly where my pot is grown, and it's not by TERRISTS or people who directly fund them. But the people who grow the pot I smoke are complicit, as are you and I, in perpetuating the status quo of the United States, its government and it's foreign policy, so long as we function and thrive within the machinations of this system.

And if I was purchasing large quantities of heroin, you bet I'd wonder how my actions might ultimately contribute to a state of affairs that it would be all too convenient to simply "Blame Bush" or some other scapegoat for. Every action we take has implication. If i was to buy a gram of black tar from a spooky guy downtown is that incident somehow insulated from the phenomenon of black market drug proliferation or the world at large? Do you honestly believe war in the middle east has nothing to do with you, that you are in no way complicit?

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Re: popular music trashing US president.... I'm down. [Re: Viveka]
    #7046488 - 06/14/07 02:57 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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Viveka said:
Right. Actually I know exactly where my pot is grown, and it's not by TERRISTS or people who directly fund them. But the people who grow the pot I smoke are complicit, as are you and I, in perpetuating the status quo of the United States, its government and it's foreign policy, so long as we function and thrive within the machinations of this system.




So wait, you're saying if I buy pot from a dealer I support terrorism? Give me a break.


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