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Re: National Media's Refusal to Cover White Couple's Murder Suggests PC at Work [Re: RandalFlagg]
#6920160 - 05/15/07 02:11 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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RandalFlagg said: If only we had a state-controlled media that told me what I should think.....
Oh yeah because there is no middle ground between capitalistic media oligarchy and state controlled media. Just because you don't understand the difference between "small" and "communism" doesn't mean you're allowed to put words in my mouth
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Re: National Media's Refusal to Cover White Couple's Murder Suggests PC at Work [Re: Madtowntripper]
#6920218 - 05/15/07 02:23 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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This story has been available to anyone who cares to look for news.
The only place it has not been reported is the hysterical mass-media, CNN, FoxNews, O'Really and Nancy Grace.
Get over it.
Right. I just googled "Channon Christian or Christopher Newsom and only a few local news and blogs came up.
So why do rich white Duke boys get MSM Mainstream attention? (when its just an imaginary rape story)
BUT the damage done by MSM and the Duke gang rape story is real, not imaginary.
The double murder was real, not imaginary.
Did the Duke Hoax and the way the media covered it contribute to the double murders?
I just dont think that I’m not the only one who is suspicious over whether the lack of coverage is a concerted effort to brush the story under the rug
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Re: National Media's Refusal to Cover White Couple's Murder Suggests PC at Work [Re: Phred]
#6920311 - 05/15/07 02:45 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Phred said: And people wonder why the majority of Americans support the death penalty.
Phred
How could the death penalty have prevented this crime?
There are 3 types of murder: that of passion, of greed, and of compulsion. The death penalty prevents none of these. In a murder of passion, like someone flying off the handle and killing someone, the person is not intending to kill the person until they get mad enough to do it. In a murder of greed, such as for money, the person is ALWAYS sure that they will not be caught and that they have planned it out perfectly. In a murder of compulsion, like a serial killer, the person is driven to kill and will do so regardless of the law.
So if the death penalty doesn't work to prevent murder...it must be there for revenge. I could go into detail of why revenge is not a good thing to have institutionalized...but I'll leave that for another thread.
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Re: National Media's Refusal to Cover White Couple's Murder Suggests PC at Work [Re: lonestar2004]
#6920314 - 05/15/07 02:45 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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By who?
You really think the heads of CNN and Fox News are getting together around a smokey table at night and saying
"Hey, I know, Lets not report some murders and try to get people to hate Whites"
Do you honestly believe this is happening?
Do you also believe that GWB planted explosives to knock down the twin towers?
Because they both seem equally plausible to me...
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Re: National Media's Refusal to Cover White Couple's Murder Suggests PC at Work [Re: Madtowntripper]
#6920332 - 05/15/07 02:50 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Madtowntripper said: By who?
You really think the heads of CNN and Fox News are getting together around a smokey table at night and saying
"Hey, I know, Lets not report some murders and try to get people to hate Whites"
its the JEEEEEEEWSSSSS
I agree, I'm just suspicious.
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Re: National Media's Refusal to Cover White Couple's Murder Suggests PC at Work [Re: trendal]
#6921379 - 05/15/07 06:39 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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trendal said: The difference here: nobody involved was rich.
Nobody in the Duke case was rich either
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Re: National Media's Refusal to Cover White Couple's Murder Suggests PC at Work [Re: zappaisgod]
#6921390 - 05/15/07 06:43 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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trendal said: The difference here: nobody involved was rich.
Nobody in the Duke case was rich either
At least one of those frat boys has parents that are loaded.
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Re: National Media's Refusal to Cover White Couple's Murder Suggests PC at Work [Re: DNKYD]
#6921400 - 05/15/07 06:47 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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You have a rather different idea of loaded than I do.
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Re: National Media's Refusal to Cover White Couple's Murder Suggests PC at Work [Re: zappaisgod]
#6921413 - 05/15/07 06:51 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: National Media's Refusal to Cover White Couple's Murder Suggests PC at Work [Re: zappaisgod]
#6921418 - 05/15/07 06:53 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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This is part and parcel of shit that has gone on for ages. Tawana Brawley was an epic example of the man bites dog criteria for news coverage which was just continued with the Duke deal. And I certainly do believe that there is a bias in news rooms all over the country to champion the "downtrodden" groups. Oh look at this poor black woman. Not only does she have to deal with being black and a woman but now whitey is raping her too. Oh boo hoo hoo.
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Re: National Media's Refusal to Cover White Couple's Murder Suggests PC at Work [Re: Madtowntripper]
#6921593 - 05/15/07 07:41 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seuss said: > And people wonder why the majority of Americans support the death penalty.
Personally, I feel 23 hours a day in a supermax cell with no hope and only time is a much worse punishment. Death is too nice; an easy escape.
I agree 100%. I would much rather be killed than in a place like that.
Killing them is cheaper.
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Re: National Media's Refusal to Cover White Couple's Murder Suggests PC at Work [Re: minesstudent]
#6923419 - 05/16/07 05:10 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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> Killing them is cheaper.
Not with the current system. Besides, I think it is pretty shallow to be worried about costs when we are talking about taking somebodies life, regardless of what that person has done, or been accused of doing.
Getting back on topic...
> And I certainly do believe that there is a bias in news rooms all over the country to champion the "downtrodden" groups.
I agree that the media loves an underdog... but I still don't know why? Is it a racial bias? Is it a financial bias? Do underdog stories sell better? The bias is certainly there. Usually when there is a bias one can find money or fame/power to be the motivation behind it...
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Re: National Media's Refusal to Cover White Couple's Murder Suggests PC at Work [Re: Seuss]
#6924455 - 05/16/07 11:02 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I thought i was gonna puke reading that. Those sick fuckers. Fucking revolting. Death penalty wouldn't do fuck all for justice. I say put them all in a straight jackets and in seperate padded rooms. Leave them there till the end of their days. They will wish they were given the death penalty!
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Re: National Media's Refusal to Cover White Couple's Murder Suggests PC at Work [Re: Seuss]
#6924553 - 05/16/07 11:21 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I agree that the media loves an underdog... but I still don't know why? Is it a racial bias? Is it a financial bias? Do underdog stories sell better? The bias is certainly there. Usually when there is a bias one can find money or fame/power to be the motivation behind it...
I think it's because they are constantly surrounded by these sad stories all the time and just out of natural human empathy wonder a little too much "can't anybody do anything?" The also help perpetuate a victim culture and then find themselves the target of those claiming victim status because they're easy marks.
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Re: National Media's Refusal to Cover White Couple's Murder Suggests PC at Work [Re: lonestar2004]
#6925531 - 05/16/07 03:10 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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and still, some people think that peaceful citizens should be deprived of the means to defend themselves from this sort of thing.
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Re: National Media's Refusal to Cover White Couple's Murder Suggests PC at Work [Re: lonestar2004]
#6925581 - 05/16/07 03:25 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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lonestar2004 said: The first I heard about it was this morning reading Snopes. (It happened back in January)
and I just find it interesting comparing the attention given the Duke case with this crime.
Some are celebrating ... click http://www.svengalimedia.com/race/sexiest_black_male_felon_2006.html
I was going to post this at totse, but they banned me again, this time until the 26th. Can someone else post this link?
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Re: National Media's Refusal to Cover White Couple's Murder Suggests PC at Work [Re: trendal]
#6925595 - 05/16/07 03:29 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Phred said: And people wonder why the majority of Americans support the death penalty.
Phred
How could the death penalty have prevented this crime?
There are 3 types of murder: that of passion, of greed, and of compulsion. The death penalty prevents none of these. In a murder of passion, like someone flying off the handle and killing someone, the person is not intending to kill the person until they get mad enough to do it. In a murder of greed, such as for money, the person is ALWAYS sure that they will not be caught and that they have planned it out perfectly. In a murder of compulsion, like a serial killer, the person is driven to kill and will do so regardless of the law.
So if the death penalty doesn't work to prevent murder...it must be there for revenge. I could go into detail of why revenge is not a good thing to have institutionalized...but I'll leave that for another thread.
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Re: National Media's Refusal to Cover White Couple's Murder Suggests PC at Work [Re: Luddite]
#6925604 - 05/16/07 03:31 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Murderers aren't born...they are made.
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Re: National Media's Refusal to Cover White Couple's Murder Suggests PC at Work [Re: zappaisgod]
#6925666 - 05/16/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
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I agree that the media loves an underdog... but I still don't know why? Is it a racial bias? Is it a financial bias? Do underdog stories sell better? The bias is certainly there. Usually when there is a bias one can find money or fame/power to be the motivation behind it...
I think it's because they are constantly surrounded by these sad stories all the time and just out of natural human empathy wonder a little too much "can't anybody do anything?" The also help perpetuate a victim culture and then find themselves the target of those claiming victim status because they're easy marks.
Maybe instead of blaming the victim it would be more productive to understand causes and find practical solutions.
In any event, what is this victim culture you are referring to? I myself have yet to see any evidence for it, perhaps you can share what little data you have with me concerning it's nature, or at the very least, it's existence.
While searching for a wiki article on google I did come across:
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Rape culture is a widely used term within women's studies and radical feminism describing a culture in which rape and other sexual violence are common and in which prevalent attitudes, norms, practices, and media condone, normalize, excuse, or encourage sexualized violence. Within the paradigm, acts of "harmless" sexism are commonly employed to validate and rationalize normative misogynistic practices; for instance, sexist jokes may be told to foster disrespect for women and an accompanying disregard for their well-being, which ultimately make their rape and abuse seem acceptable.
In a 1992 paper in the Journal of Social Issues entitled "A Feminist Redefinition of Rape and Sexual Assault: Historical Foundations and Change," Patricia Donat and John D'Emilio suggested that the term originated as "rape-supportive culture" in Susan Brownmiller's 1975 book Against Our Will: Men, Women, and Rape.[1]
In addition to its use as a theory to explain the occurrence of rape and domestic violence, rape culture has been described as detrimental to men as well as women. Some writers and speakers, such as Jackson Katz, Michael Kimmel, and Don McPherson, have said that it is intrinsically linked to gender roles that limit male self-expression and cause psychological harm to men. [2] It has also been linked to homophobia. For instance, in her 1983 "Twenty-Four Hour Truce" speech, Andrea Dworkin said that "if you want to do something about homophobia, you are going to have to do something about the fact that men rape, and that forced sex is not incidental to male sexuality but is in practice paradigmatic."[3] Also, researchers such as Philip Rumney and Martin Morgan-Taylor have used the rape culture paradigm to explain differences in how people perceive and treat male versus female victims of sexual assault.[4]
Examples of behaviors that typify rape culture include victim blaming, trivializing prison rape, and sexual objectification.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_culture
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It has been proposed that one cause of victim-blaming is the "Just World Hypothesis". People who believe that the world has to be fair, may find it hard or impossible to accept a situation in which a person is unfairly and badly hurt for no cause or reason. This leads to a sense that, somehow, the victim must have surely done 'something' to deserve their fate. Another theory entails the need to protect one's own sense of invulnerability. This inspires people to believe that rape only happens to those who deserve or provoke the assault (Schneider et al., 1994). This is a way of feeling safer. If the potential victim avoids the behaviours of the past victims then they themselves will remain safe and feel less vulnerable. A global survey of attitudes toward sexual violence by the Global Forum for Health Research shows that victim-blaming concepts are at least partially accepted in many countries. In some countries, victim-blaming is more common, and women who have been raped are sometimes deemed to have behaved improperly. Often, these are countries where there is a significant social divide between the freedoms and status afforded to men and women. This theory dates from very ancient times: the biblical Book of Job offers a canonical exploration of it.
Supporters of this view (once referred to as "Job's comforters") must perforce accept that to do otherwise would require them to give up their belief in a just world, and require them to believe in a world where bad things — such as poverty, rape, starvation, and murder — can happen to good people for no good reason. The cognitive dissonance in doing this becomes too great, and results in victim-blaming.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_blaming
Other then that I found nothing that I didn't come off as dubious propaganda when searching for data concerning the matter.
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Re: National Media's Refusal to Cover White Couple's Murder Suggests PC at Work [Re: FrenchSocialist]
#6925950 - 05/16/07 05:22 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Never heard of the victim culture, huh. Interesting. It is a tendency to blame the other for the events that befall us without ever owning any responsibility for our own fate. Quite common in identity politics. Neither of your wikis has anything to do with it.
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