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Georgie and the world court.
    #691771 - 06/21/02 05:32 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Groege Bush embarrased the US and its standing with our alies and enemies once again.

George told the UN and the council overseeing the world court that US citizens should get immunity from the courts, meaning that any US militrary or "peace keeping" force could not be tried for crimes against humanity if and when US citizens abroad commited them.
Even out hardest to the core alies said georgie is a dip shit for thinking he could get such immunity and when he threattened the UN by saying the US will no longer offer support in peace keeping missins the UN replied by basicly saying "so, we dont need you any way, never did and would propably be better without your cowboys blowing everything up and killing friendlies".

I keep growing more and more tired of George destroying US relations with our alies, it took decades of talks and summits to get where we are and in the short time hes been president he managed to make us the laughing stock of the world, or at verry least make us all look like kids on the short bus.

The article I read was in yesterdays LA Times. You have to register at the site to read anything but todays paper so no link sory...

latimes.com


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Re: Georgie and the world court. [Re: GabbaDj]
    #691829 - 06/21/02 06:24 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

he threattened the UN by saying the US will no longer offer support in peace keeping missins the UN

American taxpayers and soldiers should not be doing the UN's bidding. I fully support our government's withdrawal from this gang of socialist utopians.

The world court provides none of the constitutional safeguards for accused individuals like we enjoy here. It is a step backwards in protection of rights of the accused and judicial procedures which help to ensure a fair trial.

As far as George Bush is concerned, I don't like him either. He's just another socialist politician with dictatorial tendencies.


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Re: Georgie and the world court. [Re: GabbaDj]
    #692088 - 06/21/02 09:19 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Screw the UN. I want us completely and permanently out of that monster.
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I keep growing more and more tired of George destroying US relations with our alies, it took decades of talks and summits to get where we are and in the short time hes been president he managed to make us the laughing stock of the world, or at verry least make us all look like kids on the short bus.



I don't care how long it's taken our corrupt politicians to impede our national soverignty or destroy our rights. For the sake of good relations you think American soldiers should bend over and take it in the ass. Well screw that. American men should serve America, not some transnation army of evil. Why should ANY American be a subject of a world wide government? We're not subjects to a king in our nation and we shouldn't be when we go abroad.


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    #692379 - 06/21/02 12:03 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

As far as George Bush is concerned, I don't like him either. He's just another socialist politician with dictatorial tendencies.

Dictatorial, perhaps. Bureaucrat? Of course. Idiot? Obviously. But socialist? Whatever.

How far to the right do you have to be to consider George W. Bush, president of the United States, the word's leading advocate of neoliberalism and corporate hegemony a socialist? He is most certainly not a socialist.

Perhaps the American public is somewhat socially-minded, and Bush is simply patronizing our poll-calculated desires (steal tariffs, for example) or in other words he is caught up in the mixed-economy as a representative. But if his entire actions and agenda as president are examined, he's anything but a socialist. No socialist would whole-heartedly support the FTAA, for example. No socialist would gut social spending in favor of assumed-future benevolence of private charities. Would a socialist advocate privatising social security?

If Bush is truly a socialist, please explain why isnt he playing baseball with Fidel in Havanna?

If he's a socialist, the please explain his cabinet and their previous careers in the private sector. Any union organizers? Nope, just former CEOs.

I've been around the world and meet many people, but I have yet to meet a Christian multi-millionaire socialist who would suck the cock of Ariel Sharon in a heartbeat. All socialists I've met have been working-poor Atheists/Humanists who think Zionism is evil.


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Re: Georgie and the world court. [Re: iglou]
    #692414 - 06/21/02 12:27 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

"Screw the UN. I want us completely and permanently out of that monster."

So from that statement does that mean you think it's okay for the U.S. to go into any country and do as they please without consequence? It's funny how the U.S. rallies behind the U.N. only when it benefits the U.S....fuck the rest of the world. Is it any wonder International opinion of the U.S. is at an all-time low?...even after the 9-11 attacks?


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Re: Georgie and the world court. [Re: Rono]
    #692483 - 06/21/02 01:07 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

The US has the right AND duty to protect it's interests all over the globe.


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Re: Georgie and the world court. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #692514 - 06/21/02 01:22 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

No offense Rail_Gun..but that is the most hypocritical crock of shit I have ever heard....


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Edited by Rono (06/21/02 01:23 PM)


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Re: Georgie and the world court. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #692918 - 06/21/02 05:55 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

The problem is, we have a lot of "interests" that we demand the right to protect without questioning the legitimacy of the "interest." Considering business interests alone (imo the most prominent of interests influencing our foreign policy), we're interested in a whole lot of stuff, from oil to markets to coffee, and since we've allowed our economy to become dependent on these things, we have a "right AND duty" to protect those interests?

No, I agree with Rono on this one.


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Re: Georgie and the world court. [Re: iglou]
    #692922 - 06/21/02 05:57 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

We're not besieged by socialism, we're besieged by FASCISM.

I would say this is the most we've moved toward fascism since the Reagan era.


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Re: Georgie and the world court. [Re: hongomon]
    #692927 - 06/21/02 06:01 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Conservatism and fascism are not compatible. Fascism is the merger of government and business. Conservatism seeks to limit the role of government interfering with business.

Here's a secret. The government is FUCKED UP. Everything the government turns to crap. Conservatives know this and don't want the gov turning the business community to crap.


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Re: Georgie and the world court. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #696412 - 06/23/02 03:52 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

the world of today has businesses that are more powerful than governments. with neoliberalism who's got the "big stick?"


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