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OfflineLarrythescaryrexS
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Good books on demonology?
    #691470 - 06/20/02 09:29 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

can anyone suggest any good books on demonology. it need not be from a christian view point either....

No body suggest the necronomicon.


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verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
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Re: Good books on demonology? [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #691781 - 06/21/02 05:44 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

MALLEUS MALIFICARUM - Montague Summers
DAEMONOLATRIAE - Nicolas Remy

I have others in mind but the titles escape me and my library is all packed away but I will dig a few out and forward them on to you. But hey guy, don't sell the Necronomicon short! I assume you've read the Wilson/Hay edition - ostensibly a hoax but so scholarly you'd be hard pressed to tell! Not like that Avon edition of the Black Book - the Avonicom... hahahahahaa!

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Re: Good books on demonology? [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #691904 - 06/21/02 07:20 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

"Good Books on Demonology" seems completely oxymoronic...nevertheless,
I Enoch describes the Watchers, or fallen angels and their illicit affairs among humans (intercourse with women, producing 'giants;' teaching women the 'enchanting' use of cosmetics; teaching men to construct weapons) really just inculcating the human race with excesses of sex and violence. Also the Book of Tobit addresses the demon-of-lust Asmodeus. Both books belong to Old Testament Pseudepigrapha. These are ancient sources, not 19th century compilations of medieval grimoires like A.E. Waite's 'Book of Ceremonial Magic,' or his 'Book of Pacts.' Of course, these are not, nor do I advocate attempts at demonic evocation, or worse, invocation. I do not want any more evil assholes in MY neighborhood!


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Re: Good books on demonology? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #692118 - 06/21/02 09:32 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I guess I will admit that I have considered evocation.... Just to see if I could pull it off. That is probably the WORST reason to do it though.


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Sunset_Mission said:
"larry the scary rex
verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
April 24th 2011


Edited by Larrythescaryrex (06/22/02 06:42 PM)


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Re: Good books on demonology? [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #692495 - 06/21/02 01:12 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Just avoid that shit alltogether. If you need a favour, ask the mafia.


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Re: Good books on demonology? [Re: Revelation]
    #692617 - 06/21/02 02:27 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

care to elaborate on that, rev? I have like no really experiance with this sort of thing and the people that do never seem to want to talk about it.



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Sunset_Mission said:
"larry the scary rex
verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
April 24th 2011


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Re: Good books on demonology? [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #692622 - 06/21/02 02:32 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I don't have any experience with it either...but I just don't see the appeal...


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Re: Good books on demonology? [Re: Revelation]
    #692625 - 06/21/02 02:36 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I guess the appeal for me is to see how real it is.


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Sunset_Mission said:
"larry the scary rex
verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
April 24th 2011


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Re: Good books on demonology? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #693504 - 06/22/02 03:24 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Plays havoc with property values


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Re: Good books on demonology? [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #693505 - 06/22/02 03:29 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I think THAT reason(if in fact it really does represent your most inwardly honest intent) is a lot better than doing it with malice or with the desire to use the invocation for some truly malignant and nefarious purpose........just my honest opinion there


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Re: Good books on demonology? [Re: Revelation]
    #693598 - 06/22/02 06:42 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Revelation
Why to deny one side of the medal?

"Demons" or "Angels" are just names, given by men. Names for powers that surround us and keep the universe moving. As I became a shaman, I had to change my (allmost Christian) view upon "good" and "bad".
Now I' m conscious that everything has it' s oposite and is looking for a balance. Just that, nothing to fear!
Demons are good for horror movies.
Angels are good for esoteric dreamers
I am surrounded by spirits


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Re: Good books on demonology? [Re: the_Landotter]
    #693795 - 06/22/02 10:02 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

After looking at it, the publisher of my copy is indeed avon.


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Sunset_Mission said:
"larry the scary rex
verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
April 24th 2011


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Re: Good books on demonology? [Re: Ini]
    #694010 - 06/22/02 12:00 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

the only spirits I'm aware of are the ones you drink.... all these demons and angels are a creation of our thought. We blame bad things on 'evil spirits' or demons and when we are lucky we say an angel was watching over us. why must we think there are higher powers over us?



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Re: Good books on demonology? [Re: chodamunky]
    #694041 - 06/22/02 12:23 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

If this is your conviction... Nobody MUST think there is a higher power above him. Some people (like me p. a.) feel the presence of spirits. But I cannot furnish a proof for their existence or show them to others. Maybe they are really only a creation of my thoughts, but a thought is also something that exists.

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Re: Good books on demonology? [Re: chodamunky]
    #694596 - 06/22/02 05:45 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Hell, I don't feel that demons or angels are higher than us, only differant. I guess perhaps what I should have said was any good books on evocation? but I said demonology because my interest is more towards the negative aspects than the positive or even neutral aspects of it.


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Sunset_Mission said:
"larry the scary rex
verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
April 24th 2011


Edited by Larrythescaryrex (06/22/02 06:42 PM)


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Re: Good books on demonology? [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #698356 - 06/24/02 02:43 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I see that you have written that your location is Hell. If that is not Hell, Michigan, then locating the denizens of Hell should be simple. It is a simple matter to Invoke evil. Any child can do it. Simply lie. Perpetrate acts of unkindness, cruelty, bigotry, hatred. This requires grimoires and ritual items? No. This is the nature of the beings you wish to see about you? Why? Do you think by becoming evil you become immune to the evil that others will exact upon you? Does the world seem evil and you want to be on the apparently winning side?

Do you think that Evocation of an evil presence to a 'safe' distance is an interesting phenomenon? Then why assume it has to be a purely invisible presence? Visit a prison, or a hospital for the criminally insane. I have visited both places. Goethe has Mephistopheles walk into Faust's room through a door rather than 'materialize' outside the Circle in the Triangle of the Art. He knew something about evil on the human plane, that Goethe.

Are you not afraid to 'walk in the valley of the shadow of death,' because YOU are the meanest son-of-a-bitch in the valley, or because you have a 'helmet of righteousness,' a 'breastplate of faith,' and the 'Word of God, like a two-edged sword' to protect you? What dost thou seekest, thou Larrythescaryrex? Do you find yourself fascinated by horror films? Are you sadomasochistic? Did your mother have a toxic womb or a difficult birthing of you? These are rhetorical questions - no answers expected. But the last three questions may well determine the 'place' you find yourself in when you leave the body (temporarily or finally). Just remember...YOU are not the Master of Hell.


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Re: Good books on demonology? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #698561 - 06/24/02 05:12 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

MMM....

I don't know if I believe in "evil" or the evilness of demons. I certainly don't believe anyting is 100% evil.


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Sunset_Mission said:
"larry the scary rex
verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
April 24th 2011


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Re: Good books on demonology? [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #698806 - 06/24/02 07:37 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Know evil, believe Only in God.


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Re: Good books on demonology? [Re: chodamunky]
    #699494 - 06/25/02 02:06 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

all these demons and angels are a creation of our thought.

If they are created by our thoughts, then they are quite real, aren't they? I mean, the fundamental question is: If something has real effects, can it still be an illusion? It's like people who tell me that the christian God does not exist; yet how can you argue that something does not exist when thousands after thousands of people have died a cruel and miserable death because of it? Something which is able to kill people must indeed be very real - regardless of the source it springs from, be it a human mind or something else.

Remember that people have talked to demons and ghosts for a far longer time in history than they didn't. It was not until very recently that the world turned quite and the voices disappeared.


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Re: Good books on demonology? [Re: Nomad]
    #699683 - 06/25/02 07:14 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

If they are created by our thoughts, then they are quite real, aren't they?

No!


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